T V Systems? (Not NTV)

[Mollie the cat]

I started this thread because I am so fed up with NTV! I was asking whether any other TV systems could provide "live" English channels, Sky sports without constant buffering/freezing.

Thank you to all who contributed, it would appear that other companies also supply TV through the internet but still rely on the service from Turkey which frequently breaks down, or satellite TV which does not provide "live" English programs. Looks like we are stuck with NTV until something else comes along, what a shame we lost sky, I now have a 4.2 mtr garden ornament.

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The comment that I made in relation to Customer's Expectations, that has got you two so hot under the collar, was directed to "ISP's" not any ISP in particular.

Usual disingenuous disclaimer. There is no other ISP in North Cyprus other than Multimax that offers consumer connections anywhere near '10mbs' you referred to. What has got me hot under the collar is the defamatory implication that the speeds that Multimax offers on its connections are only 'local' speeds and do not reflect speeds that our Customer get when they go 'off island'. This is only true when there are specific temporary issues with the connections out from Cyprus that we have to use and not a generality as you imply and is equally true to all ISPs, those that only offer maximum speeds of 2 and 4mb/s as it is of us that offers considerably higher speeds in the vast majority of instances.

I know with the problems that your service is experiencing at the moment, that this must be a trying time for you, but even so, there is no reason to be so sensitive. I am sure that things will get back to normal for you soon.

Well as off TTnet telling us the problem was resolved by them late Monday night it would seem that, fingers crossed, the service has been back to normal and hopefully will now remain that way.

...... have heard all of this before on this and other forums that you have tried to monopolise with your own views. Please just accept that not all people will see things your way and that everyone is allowed to have their own opinion, but most of all, try not to add things into what has been written (putting your words into my mouth).

Everyone is entitled to have their own opinion but if we expresses ours we are trying to monopolise the forum ? Your opinion is you have not tried to exploit the temporary issue we have had recently to imply that it is a generality that we only offer faster speeds 'locally' and fail to deliver such 'off island' and we actively seek to mislead people about this. My opinion however is that this is exactly what you have sought to do. Am I allowed to have that opinion ?

[Jonnie]

Jonnie...

There is a clear distintion between what TV and IPTV Piracy is and what we do. TV Piracy is recognised (industry wide) as hijacking the broadcast signal of a genuine subscription company and rebroadcasting that signal to many others ie. giving someone access to subscription channels without them paying the 'official' broadcaster for the privilege. That is not what we do. Our customers pay for an 'official' account with the broadcasters and as I have already said, they can sleep easy knowing that they have done so. There are many people who, for the same reason that they would not go into their neighbours' garden shed and take the lawnmower without permission, will not accept Pirated TV.

That's not to say it is not a lucrative little number. (Speculation !) The TV Pirate pays for a single user account or two (say £120 per month in total) and rebroadcasts the pictures to 700-800 people using three or four computers strapped together and charges each of them £30 per month (£20,000+ per month).

I admit to being jealous of the amount of money that is being made by these TV Pirates but still, I am not drawn to become involved despite being quite able to do so.

What is interesting is that the customers who accept this type of 'watered down' TV would not accept it if they saw their local bar owner taking down the gin bottle and half filling it with water before putting their glass to the optic.

I have no problem with yours or any other system, they all have their pluses and minuses, my only objection is you keep dressing it up as some sort of legal system where it is not and there is and always will be, as with other systems the chance someone can pull the plug on it.

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Enrol and MM why do you keep on about the piracy or illegality of people getting TV from someone else?

You appear to have confused me with Paul. I was not the one that introduce the subject of 'piracy' into this thread. It was in fact Paul who appears to be of the opinion that services like NTV are akin to taking a neighbors lawnmower without permission but that his selling of OSN is not akin to this. I personally am of the opinion, which apparently I am allowed to have, that as far as one is akin to that then both are and it would seem from the quotes posted by Kemal, that the CEO of OSN itself is of similar opinion.

For the record I take no moral judgments on such matters and do not declare that people should not do one or the other or either. I simply have an opinion that both can easily be categorised as 'piracy' and find the calling of one piracy and the other not disingenuous.

... instead of slagging off other people and us for wanting to watch a programme we like. I love living here even with all its faults and have been coming here for 51 years let us enjoy ourselves in this lovely country run your business and concentrate on making your customers happy. Please do not go on about the legalities of anything here unless you are willing to have the whole mess sorted you cannot cherry pick certain ones that suit you. If I am stealing by watching coronation street then so be it I can live with it.

Again I suggest , with respect, that you have confused me with Paul. I did not start the whole discussion about piracy / legality, Paul did that. I did not 'cherry pick' what is legal or not to suit myself, I merely pointed out that in my view this is exactly what Paul is doing and nor did I slagg off other people in my opinion but have merely tried to defend the company I work for from implied allegations that I think are unfounded and untrue.

I wish you another 51 years living in this lovely country and your continued enjoyment of coronation street by whatever means you choose to access it.

[Admin]

Mollie the Cat sums the situation well, she asked a question and got her answer. This topic has now been locked as we just appear to be having a tit for tat arguement (discussion) and everyone seems to have had their say and are now just repeating themselves.
Thanks to all the contributors.