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NO GROANS PLEASE - AND I AM NOT BARKING MAD - BUT HERE COMES ANOTHER 'GIVE A DOG A HOME' PLEA.
This is not a tale of a dumped dog, but one of a landlord insisting that his tenant may not have too many dogs. One lady has been looking after a puppy alongside her other two dogs, but the landlord has now said 'enough'. Get rid of the puppy or it will be taken and shot! |one might think that is an offence in law as it amounts to theft and it is against the law to cause harm to an animal. but... what is to be done? It is not a street dog, so cannot go to KAR but here is a plea for anyone who thinksthey could give a home or know where it could have a home. It has not as yet 'been done'; but that will be taken care of if anyone will take it. a picture is added here just to show how lovely a dog it is.
If anyone can help (and genuine calls only please) then call 0533 872 7107.

BTTT things are getting desperate for little Billy.My friends landlord has given her until 1st August to get rid of Billy,before he takes him to the mountains to shoot him!!Billy is only 5 months old,surely he deserves a longer life??? Please help Kibkomers.

I cannot make up whether this is tragic or funny...

"My friends landlord has given her until 1st August to get rid of Billy,before he takes him to the mountains to shoot him!" this is not wildwildwest, nobody can take nobody's dog to anywhere and shoot him. I can count 4-5 criminal offences in this action. why do you have to put up with it?

You are bound by your rental contract whether you can have pets in the rental property or not. If there is nothing in your contract restricting it, then there is nothing preventing you from having as many pets as you can look after.

Having pets may be a problem for the landlord, if they are somehow damaging the property, I dont see how this particular dog may have achieved this...

Having pets may be a problem for your neighbors, it they are making too much noise, if they are not being cleaned after etc. In that case, they need to go to Belediye and they will come and inspect the situation. Is the landlord at the same time a neighbor? If not, he has no say in this matter.

If you think this guy is serious in his threats, you should go to he police. If you somehow think that you are unable to handle the situation properly, write down the landlords name and number here...

I am replying for my friend after ascertaining more information Kbasat.My friend does NOT have a contract so I do not see how she is breaking any terms The landlord does live near by when he is in the country, neither he nor the neighbours are complaining of noise or any damage. The dogs are in an enclosed garden and patio area.He is just trying to show his authority.Incidentally he is ENGLISH, If she does complain to the police and will be given notice to leave.

Then she should take him to the mountains and shoot him, the "ooops", some people are just rotten through and through.

are you suggesting she should take the land lord to the mountains and shoot him??

There's a thought

Please can we have some sensible suggestion.this is not finding a home for Billy and time is running out. I know some of you think this is funny and akin to a wild west story,believe me it is not.

this story is so sad and must be so worrying ..good luck with your search ...bless him he looks lovely ,

Yes please, this is NO joke but a harsh reality, and there isno reaosn to believe that the landlord willnot carryout the threat, even if what he does is illegal. Actually he wuld probably just take the dog somewhere and leave it. doubt he has a gun, and if english knows that theree is a harshpenalty for hurting animals and if this dog should disappear then he owul dbe first suspect. One could then report to the police, BUT this woul dbe too late. The needis now for this poor dog to find a home within a matter of days.

Please pass on the message .

Advice from my TC husband, ''go to the police''. If you have no contract then your landlord is breaking the law by not paying tax on the rental income.

And, again, because you have no contract, he cannot evict you without first giving you at least six months notice.

When you go to the police give his name and report his behaviour and tell them how long you have been paying him rent and because of the fact that he is renting without paying tax he could be arrested on his arrival at the airport.

It amazes me how a lot of expats will not go to the police, believe me, they are very helpful and ''user friendly'', you are not breaking any laws, he is.

When you do go to the police here,how come you come away feeling like the guilty party( I know off topic)
Please help to find Billy a home.no matter whether landlord is at fault or not ,time is running out if he means to carry out his threat

BTTT

If the landlord means what he says we have 2 days left in which to find Billy a new home!!!

Why don't you let the landlord see what is written here. He might change his mind about things, and realise that if he is kind and generous, people might think more highly of him! That way, all the animals can live happily together ever after!

i am most disturbed what I have read here , as an animal lover six dogs and four cats I feel for you , this man is obviously a bully picking on a women , I wonder how he would have dealt with a man , but the main concern is the little dog , I feel you need a plan and I feel you need to sit down with this man and a third party , I assume your rent is paid to date , as you have no tenancy agreement you are in a strong position as how can you be breaking rules when there are no rules .

I feel reporting him to the tax authorities will do no good at this time only adding fuel to the fire , if you should ever leave that should be your first phone call .

my advice only talk to this guy with a witness present , start looking for alternative accommodation and if he threatens the dog call the police immediately , I live in the karpaz but would be happy to be present in his company .

Thanks Chelwood for your offer,My friend is going to wait till the end of the week and see what happens. Another male friend has offered to go with her to see the landlord.She will probably start to look for somewhere else,as life will be uncomfortable what ever the outcome.

bttt

bttt IF any of you are even thinking about giving this dog a chance,please,please do it now.God knows what is going to happen to little Billy .

bttt

Name and shame this bully !!

Oh don't you worry if anything does happen to Billy.then his name will be MUD and hopefully he will be in jail or deported!!!

bttt

Lilyross wrote:Name and shame this bully !!

Yes, why not?

bttt lots of suggestions of what we should do to the landlord,but still no home for Billy

It seems to me that most of the posters on this thread are willing to support you and your friend in her quest to keep Billy. So why do you keep on trying to find a new home? Does she not want to keep the dog?

I appreciate the support for my friend.Of course she want to keep Billy as he gets on well with her other 2 dogs and cats.She has begged the landlord to let her keep him,she has offered him another £20 a month on the "illegal rent".His only comment is that the money is not an issue and wants the dog gone.She is worried that she will go home and fine Billy "gone" that is the only reason she want to find him a secure home.

bttt

And again

thank you Paddywack

Any time for a dog, not too sure about humans though.
Landlord needs to be spoken to in what we call paramilitary style.

İ totally agree with kbasat And blue butterfly.
İf she wants to keep her young dog then fight for him
and go to the police now before its too late (which i believe is Just threats
to scare the lady).
Because the police will wonder why she didnt speak this
With them like (now) !
She needs to fight for this poor dog And stop thinking what will happen
With her accomodation.
Because he is breaking the law with this too.
My tc husband uncle a police has read all this and says Why she not report
Him he dont understand. And be careful with renting with No contracts.

The trouble you "dog lovers" have caused over the years is extraordinary. Many of my holidays have been blighted by dog noise but you people seem to be oblivious to the problems you have created over the years. Get a life!! Half the world is starving and you lot bleat on!! And I am a dog lover but a responsible one!!!

Sorry Sandman, totally disagree with your comments!
We are responsible owners of our dogs, ours being part of the family, kept in at night and only taken out on leads other that in the appropriate months that we can take them to the beaches.
In the time we have been here, we have had to take two other dogs to the vets to be put to sleep because of the horrific conditions they were in.
One was knocked down and left to die, the other had severe brain damage and was being ignored by other people.
Would you have not helped these animals?
At the moment, apart from our four, we have a dumped dog outside on our road that we are keeping an eye on, trying to keep it safe but at the same time hoping to find it a permanent home.
In the area that we live our local Belediyesi is known for culling cats and dogs, unfortunately.
What do you do, scare it away to somewhere else, go and dump it somewhere else to become someone else's problem and more than likely it will starve to death.
NO thank you. WE DO HAVE A LIFE AND THAT IS WHY WE CAN DO WHAT WE DO for defenceless animals.

Unfortunately Sandman, when you live here you end up having dogs dumped on you. If like me you are a dog lover then they get to stay. Most Brits I know, including me, do not let their dogs bark continously. I, like BigBadBob, keep mine in at night.

Sandman if your holidays are blighted here, can I ask why do you bother to come back here. Don't tar everyone with the same brush. Half the world starving has knack all to do with Marions posting, and now it is going off topic.
If the owner doesn't go to the police to report this landlord, then she doesn't deserve to find a home for Billy in my view. He should be reported and dealt with. I wouldn't have thought that he would have a leg to stand on if the police were involved.
Who is the Landlord?
Why isn't this thread in the Pets section.

Lor51, because it is HOT, the topic that is. Will move soon to Pets category when hopefully either Billy is taken by someone or the Landlord is shot (please note the latter was just a joke).

Perhaps it should not be a joke.

PLEASE don't let this get like 44,my friend is waiting to see what contact, if any, she gets from the landlord today,this is his D day.It is very unkind to say that if she doesn't report him to the police,she doesn't deserve to find a home for Billy.It is all well and good saying find somewhere else to live.She has 2 other dogs and several cats(which she already had,when she first rented 3 years ago).the only increase in the animal population has been one puppy!!!

We are 100% behind your friend and of course Billy.
Everything crossed for a new home to be found.
All the love and luck to all concerned.

thanks for your support Bigbadbob, and others it means a lot.

back to the top as we have another posting with the same heading.

For goodness sake, 44 was the best forum around and missed by many people. One person says something that someone doesn't approve of and its, OH NO DON'T LET THIS GET LIKE 44. If you don't like what you read, DON'T READ IT.

But how will you know you don't like it if you don't read it?????

I'm sorry but I'm beginning to think that this whole thread is an emotional blackmail jobby gone wrong. It just seems ridiculous to me. We Brits have to tread very carefully here, as we are foreigners, like it or not. Any of us going gung-ho with a gun would be straight on the first plane out, I suspect.

Thanks frontalmen,my very question,but I didn't want to start a confrontation
Could you please clarify what you mean by "emotional blackmail gone wrong"on Marion's posting?

This was never intended to be an emotional blackmailing - in fact I would not know how to do it. I posted this for a friend becauswe it is a genuine call for help. Whatever the arguments as to what the current owner of the dog could or shuld do,the way she sees it, (as i understand it) is that she has thought it through; she acceptsd that she is a tenant and has to complyu with landlord's requests (never mind about contracts, legal or illegal ) and feels that the only possible way forward at the moment is for the dog to find another home.

Sadly it would appear that no new home can be found through KibKom. Maybe the landlord could be persuaded to be a little more tolerant of the time scale etc, . But as I said this is a genuine posting to try to find an answer and it has nothing to do with how owners treat their dogs, or the nuisance that dogs can be, or any other matter. It is just simple 'Can someone please give this dog a home.

Please don't throw metaphorical stones, just spread the word that there is a dilemna that needs sorting.

Maybe a miracle will happen, but this posting is merely to try to help.

Is KAR aware of this awful situation? If not, can they help, albeit temporarily, if the renter has offered extra money to the landlord, maybe Kar will take the money to support him until a home can be found.
I honestly don't understand why the renter hasn't reported this man to the Police.
Its now 2 days past the deadline, so has he relented.

frontalman wrote:It seems to me that most of the posters on this thread are willing to support you and your friend in her quest to keep Billy. So why do you keep on trying to find a new home? Does she not want to keep the dog?

I agree, the dog does not need a new home, he has a home.

It is the landlord that needs sorted, why has he not been named? and why are you so loathe to go to the police.?

The landlord has threatened to come to the property with a gun and shoot a dog.

A If he has a gun, which I very much doubt, has he got a licence for it?

B In the unlikely event that he has a gun/licence for it, it is illegal to fire a gun in public.

If you want someone to go with you or to report it for you, PM me.

Simple solution. Keep the dog, REPORT THE LANDLORD.

but as ıt all states on thıs thread.. she wont for some reason??
ıs she frıghtened by thıs man??
he seems lıke he ıs a bully and controllıng her as well as her pets??
just go to speak at kar or the best solutıon (the polıce) !
ı dont understand why thıs has not been done already wıth the threats??
why has he not threatened agaınst her other pets ıf she has cats and dogs?

thıs poor lıttle dog dont deserve thıs and ı feel really sad everytıme ı look at the pıcture of hım, but unfortunatly ı am rentıng at the moment and the contract states for me no pets. sorry ı cant help you, or ı would of taken hım by now as he ıs adorable.

but PLEASE.... go to the polıce and make a report, ı no you are tryıng your best to look for a home for hım, (but why?)
as you say, she ıs allowed pets and he ıs rentıng to her wıth no contract eıther.
so he ıs there for not allowed to tell you to get rıd of or defınatly shoot hım. thıs ıs just threats from hım so dont even worry.
he knows he would get ınto alot of trouble ıf he dıd such a thıng of harm the dog (ıf he had a braın) !

he wants her to get rıd of the dog for what reason truthfully??
why not the others??
tell hım to jog on or WIND HIS NECK IN !

ı hope hope bılly wıll be ok and hopıng he wıll contınue a happy lıfe maybe wıth hıs owner or another famıly.

Thanks to all who have posted,the latest text 5 mins ago from my friend,said she has not heard anything from the landlord yet and has not paid this month rent.will let me know as soon as she hears from him and I will post asap. KAR have been advises,but as the dog has a home,cannot help.

I wasn't suggesting for one minute that Marion was complicit in a deception! But well-meaning, good-natured people can be taken in at the best of times. I think I would have tackled this "landlord" head on before giving in to his ridiculous threats and posting on here.

Incidentally, I don't see how non-payment of due rent will help the situation.