Risks of rehoming your pet - WARNING of distressing photos
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Risks of rehoming your pet - WARNING of distressing photos
Please ;
Meet as many times as you can with the potential new owner and ask them/find out as much detail about them and their home life as you can. Ask questions of them (have they had cats/dogs before; do they have a garden; work; children) – you are entrusting your animal family member with them and need to be as sure as you can that they can be trusted and are aware of the responsibilities of pet ownership.
Watch carefully how your pet/new owner (and family) interact during meetings.
Particular caution is needed when re homing certain breeds that may require special care and/or an experienced owner or ones that can be viewed as status/trophy breeds.
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Go with the new owner to re register the new details at the Beledeyesi and also change the details on the TRNC microchip database.
Go with them to you/their vet to introduce them and to pass on any previous medical conditions or treatment..
Spend as much time as possible with the new owner and your pet – do not rush into a decision.
Your decision will rest with your pet for the remainder of it’s life . Make sure it is the right decision.
Sadly for this Kangal the decision was the wrong one and his previous owner has to live with that for the rest her life - this Kangal no longer has a life.
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So sad that this poor dog lost his life, but such a good warning for others planning on rehoming their family members
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All the more reason why the people who take on stray animals should have more support.. People who have to re home dogs (or even put animals in kennels ) because of their own health problems or to support sick relative,, are often just not able to carry out all those checks - or are just so upset about human issues they are just too relieved that someone apparently nice is prepared to offer a home to a beloved pet to ask questions.
It works the other way round too , people take on animals in what they think are compassionate circumstances can be lumbered - a few years ago I took on a dog whose owner had o go to UK for serious health care. I was told the dog was registered and vaccinated but when I asked for the documents I got a month of wasted phone calls and and e mails only to be told they were "lost". So I had to start again with the dogs health of that of my other two at risk since I could not even be sure if she had had her "puppy" vaccinations. Fortunately with the help of a Vet it turned out well and she is now a healthy, active, happy little dog, but it could have been disaster. Except now I am putting my own future health and care and welfare at risk because I cant leave three dogs to get the care I need.
Someone started a website for mutual help for dog carers with problem, but it got insufficient support! All very well to go all soft hearted and upset about the dog, but there are human issues too.
It works the other way round too , people take on animals in what they think are compassionate circumstances can be lumbered - a few years ago I took on a dog whose owner had o go to UK for serious health care. I was told the dog was registered and vaccinated but when I asked for the documents I got a month of wasted phone calls and and e mails only to be told they were "lost". So I had to start again with the dogs health of that of my other two at risk since I could not even be sure if she had had her "puppy" vaccinations. Fortunately with the help of a Vet it turned out well and she is now a healthy, active, happy little dog, but it could have been disaster. Except now I am putting my own future health and care and welfare at risk because I cant leave three dogs to get the care I need.
Someone started a website for mutual help for dog carers with problem, but it got insufficient support! All very well to go all soft hearted and upset about the dog, but there are human issues too.
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OMG, that has made me feel sick, does anyone know who did this? I wish I hadn't looked. Just so distressing. I hope the "ooops" who did this to that beautiful dog pays for his actions, very harshly.
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Ragged Robin - re your comment " All very well to go all soft hearted and upset about the dog " but there are human issues too" but i don't think there is anyone who would not be upset/horrified about what happened to the dog. Cruel b******s to starve the dog like that. No excuse what so ever.
Maybe pet owners should prepare for the future - get their pets ready, in advance, to go the UK if necessary - see if they can set up a legacy for someone they trust to care for them if they/owner die . Have people in place and agreement to look after them if they are taken ill (could maybe the BRS help with setting up something amongst it's members).
There are very few circumstances (if any) whereby a pet cannot be taken back to the UK if necessary. The most common excuses not to do so are the cost, insufficient time as the pets are not ready, the organisation - but it can often just boil down, sadly, to the owner "not wanting to "
Maybe that is the case with the Kangal !!!!!!!
Maybe pet owners should prepare for the future - get their pets ready, in advance, to go the UK if necessary - see if they can set up a legacy for someone they trust to care for them if they/owner die . Have people in place and agreement to look after them if they are taken ill (could maybe the BRS help with setting up something amongst it's members).
There are very few circumstances (if any) whereby a pet cannot be taken back to the UK if necessary. The most common excuses not to do so are the cost, insufficient time as the pets are not ready, the organisation - but it can often just boil down, sadly, to the owner "not wanting to "
Maybe that is the case with the Kangal !!!!!!!
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ifonly, agree with all you say. I'm beginning to lose what patience I have with the list of excuses people make - its getting to the point where I could type out a list, hand it to people and say, stick a pin in that lot and see what comes up, or if you have another reason, add it to the list. People rarely if ever say what they mean i.e. I JUST DON'T WANT TO TAKE THE ANIMAL BACK TO UK but hand the animal over to the first person that comes along and says "Ill take it" Kangals in particular are very large dogs as everyone knows but because of their size need more than the average amount of food but still have loving sensitive souls. I suspect the original owner handed the dog over to someone without a thought to the dogs welfare and than hot footed it back to UK without a backward glance. Shame on that person. If you ever come on to this forum (which I doubt) I hope you see these obscene pictures and are sickened by what you did.
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Most decent people are upset to see an animal in pain and distress , and I am not commenting on this particular case as I do not know enough details. And I agree that problems are often caused because people are attracted to a cute puppy or pity it, and take it on without realising exactly what is involved in caring for a dog - let alone a large one like a Kangol. A puppy is NOT just for Christmas. Or they see it as a status symbol. Education, support and example is a long term solution but it is the only one available. It is good that KAR are educating the children, but adults also need education and sometimes support, including the British
I have lost patience with people who have no compassion for humans. Many people , as a result of circumstances beyond their control have to return to UK or go into hospital or become physically incapable of caring for animals and are heartbroken about the fate of their pets. Often they may be going into care, or hired accommodation that rarely allows pets and have insufficient funds for their themselves let alone the considerable cost of exporting a dog. As I said I dont know the circumstances in this case, but the type of blanket attacks on anyone who has to cope with the problems of finding care for a much loved animal companion and the general "blind eye" to problems humans may encounter causes deep distress.
I have lost patience with people who have no compassion for humans. Many people , as a result of circumstances beyond their control have to return to UK or go into hospital or become physically incapable of caring for animals and are heartbroken about the fate of their pets. Often they may be going into care, or hired accommodation that rarely allows pets and have insufficient funds for their themselves let alone the considerable cost of exporting a dog. As I said I dont know the circumstances in this case, but the type of blanket attacks on anyone who has to cope with the problems of finding care for a much loved animal companion and the general "blind eye" to problems humans may encounter causes deep distress.
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As the article says "that decision will stay with the owner for life" ....it is their conscience.
It is just beyond my comprehension how ;
a) someone could starve this poor dog so much that it ended up like that. If they couldn't afford the food why not ask for help ?
b) wherever the dog was during it starvation period (months i expect) other people must have seen it or been aware of what was happening to it - why not ask someone for help ? They are just as guilty by ignoring it.
c) the person who dumped the dog at the Rescue Centre (it certainly dd not walk there itself) - why don't you come forward and explain how/where you came by this dog - or name the person who did this if you know.
B******s the lot of them - everyone who was involved in whatever way.
It is just beyond my comprehension how ;
a) someone could starve this poor dog so much that it ended up like that. If they couldn't afford the food why not ask for help ?
b) wherever the dog was during it starvation period (months i expect) other people must have seen it or been aware of what was happening to it - why not ask someone for help ? They are just as guilty by ignoring it.
c) the person who dumped the dog at the Rescue Centre (it certainly dd not walk there itself) - why don't you come forward and explain how/where you came by this dog - or name the person who did this if you know.
B******s the lot of them - everyone who was involved in whatever way.
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Either some one knows a great deal more of the history of this dog than I can work out from the facts given or they are making assumptions and accusations based on prejudice not facts. Obviously the original owners cared about the dog or it would not have been in good condition after eight years ,and trusted the new owners - it is so sad they did not have friends who would check on the condition of the dog. Did those who are so keen to apportion blame never make a serious error of judgement or trust someone who proved untrustworthy? Even the cherished pets have been known to get lost , or be kidnapped (and a healthy Kangol if it looked like a pedigree would be a prime temptation for the latter).
Whoever took it to KAR may well not have been responsible for the dog, but found it , and were concerned enough to leave it somewhere they hoped it would be cared for, and did it anonymously as they suspected they might be blamed and held responsible for its condition,
It is so easy to critisise others , a bit harder to offer help. When I made my Will I hoped to leave suffficient to care for my dogs for the rest of their lives, as most people I know who love dogs already have too many and I wanted to appoint a kind of Dogs Attorney whom I trusted to understood dogs to ensure that they did not go to someone who would take the money and neglect the dog, I could not find anyone, and those I approached pointed out that there are too many strays to make homing an older dog a possibiity. Would those who are so keen to blame others be prepared to take on the responsibility of the liftime welfare someone else's pet? There are a lot of people prepared to pluck at the heartstrings of susceptible people to adopt a cute puppy - something else to find a home for an older dog set in its ways.
And if we all thought about where we would be and what our health, finance and other circumstances would be in 5, 10 ,15 even twenty years time before we adopted an animal , no one would adopt at all.
Whoever took it to KAR may well not have been responsible for the dog, but found it , and were concerned enough to leave it somewhere they hoped it would be cared for, and did it anonymously as they suspected they might be blamed and held responsible for its condition,
It is so easy to critisise others , a bit harder to offer help. When I made my Will I hoped to leave suffficient to care for my dogs for the rest of their lives, as most people I know who love dogs already have too many and I wanted to appoint a kind of Dogs Attorney whom I trusted to understood dogs to ensure that they did not go to someone who would take the money and neglect the dog, I could not find anyone, and those I approached pointed out that there are too many strays to make homing an older dog a possibiity. Would those who are so keen to blame others be prepared to take on the responsibility of the liftime welfare someone else's pet? There are a lot of people prepared to pluck at the heartstrings of susceptible people to adopt a cute puppy - something else to find a home for an older dog set in its ways.
And if we all thought about where we would be and what our health, finance and other circumstances would be in 5, 10 ,15 even twenty years time before we adopted an animal , no one would adopt at all.
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You're right there!Ragged Robin wrote:...And if we all thought about where we would be and what our health, finance and other circumstances would be in 5, 10 ,15 even twenty years time before we adopted an animal , no one would adopt at all.
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I do not think attacking the original owner/s of this poor thing can be blamed, the person who did this is the culprit and should be hanged imo.
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You're right as well !jacob wrote:I do not think attacking the original owner/s of this poor thing can be blamed, the person who did this is the culprit and should be hanged imo.
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As i said in Post 10 - EVERYONE who was involved in whatever way.
There are options for owners having to return to the UK - there are retirement homes for pets (Trindledown Farm Berks, Oaklies Oldies Shrewsbury are just 2) There are also organisations/housing trusts across the UK who have pet friendly accomodation ( Pet friendly retirement homes and care homes in the UK http://www.housingcare.org , http://www.cinnamon.org.uk are just 2).
Research is needed but often answers/solutions can be found. Even if you had to take your pet back and then give them up to one of the Non kill sanctuaries for the remainder of their lives - wouldn't that be better than leaving them here not knowing for sure what was happening to them and running the risk of this happening ?
There are options for owners having to return to the UK - there are retirement homes for pets (Trindledown Farm Berks, Oaklies Oldies Shrewsbury are just 2) There are also organisations/housing trusts across the UK who have pet friendly accomodation ( Pet friendly retirement homes and care homes in the UK http://www.housingcare.org , http://www.cinnamon.org.uk are just 2).
Research is needed but often answers/solutions can be found. Even if you had to take your pet back and then give them up to one of the Non kill sanctuaries for the remainder of their lives - wouldn't that be better than leaving them here not knowing for sure what was happening to them and running the risk of this happening ?
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ifonly, you make the fundamental mistake in thinking all humans should or do have compassion, reasoning, sympathy or feelings for anybody/thing other than themselves. There are instances of child, aged and animal cruelty/neglect world-wide. I totally accept that Cyprus (island-wide) has a major problem given its small size and population though.
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ifonly, you make the fundamental mistake in thinking all humans should or do have compassion, reasoning, sympathy or feelings for anybody/thing other than themselves. There are instances of child, aged and animal cruelty/neglect world-wide. I totally accept that Cyprus (island-wide) has a major problem given its small size and population though.
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Disgusting what they have done. All of them - somebody must have seen or knew what this dog was going througgh. He is not so small as to be not seen is he.
I know a bit of this dog and his past life and the way he was re homed has made some people in their area very upset to begin with. The family have 2 dogs and
decided to take just 1 to England - they decided to leave 1 here. The 1 that was left behind - with someone they hardly had known at all - was the husbands favourite of the dogs. The husband had died a while ago. There is no reason this dog could not have gone to England also.
They had other choices also - made thier choice and this is the result.
People had been trying to look out for the dog after the family left but quickly he had disappeared and they were told that he had been given away again - but noone knew where to.
Disgusting - who ever did this is living in this small community and someone maybe even reading this knows them. Well if you know them tell them they are disgusting human beings and i hope they get their commeuppance.
I know a bit of this dog and his past life and the way he was re homed has made some people in their area very upset to begin with. The family have 2 dogs and
decided to take just 1 to England - they decided to leave 1 here. The 1 that was left behind - with someone they hardly had known at all - was the husbands favourite of the dogs. The husband had died a while ago. There is no reason this dog could not have gone to England also.
They had other choices also - made thier choice and this is the result.
People had been trying to look out for the dog after the family left but quickly he had disappeared and they were told that he had been given away again - but noone knew where to.
Disgusting - who ever did this is living in this small community and someone maybe even reading this knows them. Well if you know them tell them they are disgusting human beings and i hope they get their commeuppance.