Curfew announced

[rowan]

I am sick to death of the selfish and arrogant people out here who do not think that regulations apply to them, just to everyone else. I am as frustrated as the next man or woman at not being able to take my dogs for walks, but these latest restrictions are there to protect us, all of us. If everyone is sensible, there is a chance things will improve sooner rather than later.

[wizardofmann]

Seconded rowan.

[elizabeth]

As I see it we have two choices, six feet apart or six feet under, it's up to each of us to follow the rules to protect ourselves and others.

[elizabeth]

Following on from my last post I have just looked out of the window and see that the people opposite our house and their next door neighbours have settled down around a very small table to enjoy a cup of tea. What is wrong with these people, seriously,are they stupid, arrogant or just think they are immune, I despair.

[Groucho]

I simply don't understand the fascination with demonising dog walking... in large - it's a solitary and necessary function. It is specifically authorised in the south.... what is it that so worries and annoys folk? Or are you just determined to be anti-dog walking for your own satisfaction. The characterisation of dog walking as an act of selfishness or defiance is simply bonkers...

Of course if you ask the police 'can I walk my dog?' they in light of a lack of any clear clarification, are going to say 'no'. That's the stock answer when they are not sure here....

However there is still no reason, medical or otherwise for restricting dog walking by individuals as long as they make sure they do not venture near anyone else in the process...

The purpose of the curfew is to prevent, as far as possible unnecessary human contact.... this not a product of walking your dog in remote areas... is it?

Some people need to get a grasp on reality...

[EnjoyingTheSun]

I simply don't understand the fascination with demonising dog walking... in large - it's a solitary and necessary function.

I must admit I'm struggling to see that someone walking a dog up a mountain or somewhere where no one is can cause many problems. Obviously a bit of common sense is needed as ever. I hope its not a case of "if I can't go to the pub you shouldn't walk your dog" because it's apples and oranges.

[kerry 6138]

Has anyone managed to get one of the permission slips? tried ringing the numbers just get not available message need to feed house cats for friends stuck in UK .

[Groucho]

Has anyone managed to get one of the permission slips? tried ringing the numbers just get not available message need to feed house cats for friends stuck in UK .

You don't need a permission slip. They are for people who need a waiver to gather at places of work, not lone individuals carrying out neighbourly functions, where they will not meet others...

[Keithcaley]

Has anyone managed to get one of the permission slips? tried ringing the numbers just get not available message need to feed house cats for friends stuck in UK .

You don't need a permission slip. They are for people who need a waiver to gather at places of work, not lone individuals carrying out neighbourly functions, where they will not meet others...

Groucho, I'm not sure where you got your information/interpretation of the rules from, but if you could post a link for us to verify, that would be appreciated.

In the meantime, I've copied this excerpt from the article posted in Cyprium News: -

11- Apart from these examples, those who are not commercial but need to go out in terms of humanitarian and health and those who need to notify, to be able to take public action (declaration etc.) must obtain permission from the relevant district governorships or police stations. This group are; Those who have an obligation to supply, medicines, food, etc. for quarantined children, elderly, sick and disabled people who are unable to leave the house.

12- As per the court order, those who have to present themselves at Police Stations are free to go out on the streets at specified times to do this. Those that have an order decided by a court to see their children need to show the court order.

13- The contact phone numbers for people requiring permits from their own district offices are given below, and a virtual permit document will be issued.

District Governorate of Nicosia
Tel: 0548 863 71 84
Famagusta District Governorship
Tel: 0533 869 07 69
Kyrenia District Governorship
Tel: 0548 859 29 01
Güzelyurt District Governorship
Tel: 0533 871 05 56
Iskele Governorship
Tel: 0542 855 11 79
Lefke District Governorate
Tel: 0542 850 02 07
Central Governorship
Tel: 0542 853 17 45

WHATSAPP MESSAGE LINES

For Nicosia: 0548 829 1051

For Famagusta: 0548 829 1052

For Kyrenia: 0548 829 1053

For Iskele: 0548 829 1054

For Güzelyurt: 0548 829 1055

For Lefke: 0548 829 1056

[Groucho]

Has anyone managed to get one of the permission slips? tried ringing the numbers just get not available message need to feed house cats for friends stuck in UK .

You don't need a permission slip. They are for people who need a waiver to gather at places of work, not lone individuals carrying out neighbourly functions, where they will not meet others...

Groucho, I'm not sure where you got your information/interpretation of the rules from, but if you could post a link for us to verify, that would be appreciated.

In the meantime, I've copied this excerpt from the article posted in Cyprium News: -

11- Apart from these examples, those who are not commercial but need to go out in terms of humanitarian and health and those who need to notify, to be able to take public action (declaration etc.) must obtain permission from the relevant district governorships or police stations. This group are; Those who have an obligation to supply, medicines, food, etc. for quarantined children, elderly, sick and disabled people who are unable to leave the house.

12- As per the court order, those who have to present themselves at Police Stations are free to go out on the streets at specified times to do this. Those that have an order decided by a court to see their children need to show the court order.

13- The contact phone numbers for people requiring permits from their own district offices are given below, and a virtual permit document will be issued.

District Governorate of Nicosia
Tel: 0548 863 71 84
Famagusta District Governorship
Tel: 0533 869 07 69
Kyrenia District Governorship
Tel: 0548 859 29 01
Güzelyurt District Governorship
Tel: 0533 871 05 56
Iskele Governorship
Tel: 0542 855 11 79
Lefke District Governorate
Tel: 0542 850 02 07
Central Governorship
Tel: 0542 853 17 45

WHATSAPP MESSAGE LINES

For Nicosia: 0548 829 1051

For Famagusta: 0548 829 1052

For Kyrenia: 0548 829 1053

For Iskele: 0548 829 1054

For Güzelyurt: 0548 829 1055

For Lefke: 0548 829 1056

Keith, all the examples quoted herein are for those going to have contact with other people therefore requiring specific permission - nowhere does it say you need permission to feed an animal... neither should it.

[Keithcaley]

Section 11 'humanitarian' should cover it.

The legislation is not aimed at sensible people (although it does, of course, include them) - it's aimed at the irresponsible ones, like the 42 (at the last count ) who were arrested for breaking the rules.

I don't think that the policeman arresting you will make any allowance for the fact that you are 'sensible', he'll just want to get his arrest rate up!

[Groucho]

Section 11 'humanitarian' should cover it.

The legislation is not aimed at sensible people (although it does, of course, include them) - it's aimed at the irresponsible ones, like the 42 (at the last count ) who were arrested for breaking the rules.

I don't think that the policeman arresting you will make any allowance for the fact that you are 'sensible', he'll just want to get his arrest rate up!

It definitely does not... the word humanitarian refers to action "concerned with or seeking to promote human welfare" by definition going to feed animals is humane not humanitarian.

No one should be deliberately misinterpreting the intended meaning of the rules to detriment of dumb animals. The police will have enough to do coping with belligerent flouting of the ban on gatherings without dealing with permission to feed a cat.... they might say no because they regard a cat as human!

[waddo]

If you read Cyprus Mail today the South have specifically mentioned pets, pity the North could not do the same to end this totally pointless argument! Perhaps a call to the Interior Minister could set things straight? In the meantime I will just follow the legislation as stated and not guess what could be possible or not. The year in jail for being outside without a lawful reason is enough for me to walk my dog around the premises. Apart from which I see no reason to alienate the local population by not doing what, as a visitor to the country, I have been told to do. Some may differ, like the guy who visited an empty house in my road just because he could, it’s been empty for months yet suddenly it requires attention? I suppose that some may feel it is ok to crap on the carpet of a friends house they were a guest in, just because nobody told them they could’nt? Remember we are all guests here and act responsibly!

[kerry 6138]

Keith and Groucho, waddo thanks for your thoughts on the curfew regulation, I could of course give you the opinion of the District Office if only they would answer the number given.

[EnjoyingTheSun]

It seems to me that the problem won't be how clear the legislation is it will be how the policeman who taps on your shoulder interprets it.
As we see every day animal welfare doesn't seem to be that high on their list of priorities at the best of times so I wouldn't be that confident now.

[Terri299]

Just seen this on fb

The District Offices (Kaymakams) are inundated with request for permits to go out. The phone numbers for the offices and the WhatsApp numbers are very busy. The Kaymakam numbers are only open between 9am and 1pm on weekdays only. In order to cope with the pressure applications for permits can now be made to district police head quarters in person. People should only apply to the Kaymakam or police head quarters in their own district. Only one application should be made to one or the other. If people send more than one message on WhatsApp, (this is whats been happening) the application will be rejected by the security system and be refused. WhatsApp permits will be returned for use on the app. The WhatsApp numbers are listed again on this link that is in Turkish. The information you are required to give is a) Full name b) ID number c) Home address d) Destination address e) Reason for permit f) Day and time for permit

Hope this helps

[kerry 6138]

Thanks Terri, I had hoped someone may have already tried and got the answer its not required if no human interaction.

[Groucho]

"If you're outside walking by yourself, you're not exposed; if you're out walking the dog by yourself, there's no risk… it's when you have contact with other people that you need to be concerned." Brian Labus professor of virology.

Going shopping is going to be the biggest problem for some, especially for those with specific dietary requirements like, coeliacs, those needing lactose free or low sugar for diabetics etc. The more local shops probably don't stock items of this nature....

[Harrythecod]

Yesterday my other half went shopping there was groups of people walking around together in kyrenia.surely this is more dangerous than a single person who lives in countryside walking there dog .i understand that this is being spoken about but if people are still disobeying the rules this 14 day curfew will last a lot longer.what will happen after 14 days if no more cases of the virus have emerged.

[elizabeth]

Obviously the rules don't apply to everyone
during this curfew. Last week our gardeners were told by the police that they were not allowed to work and would be fined. Yet today my next door neighbour, a policeman, is standing in his garden telling his gardeners what he wants done. What hope is there when those supposed to uphold the law disregard it.

[snd1966]

Obviously the rules don't apply to everyone
during this curfew. Last week our gardeners were told by the police that they were not allowed to work and would be fined.

Elizabeth, I do think your gardeners have taken the information received is they can not garden and would get a fine, or were they stopped by police. I asked last week and was advised say you are visiting friends not actually what I called a lot safer going to empty houses and checking all was ok.
Maintenance as a whole is not mentioned anywhere where I have looked but I do hope soon Pools will be mentioned as a group who can get permits to travel and if it continues empty houses can be visited for watering pots etc.
Last week it would of only been 2 visits missed but if the lockdown continues it could be a month or more

[EnjoyingTheSun]

I do hope soon Pools will be mentioned as a group who can get permits to travel

Whilst sorting out pools can't be classed as an essential there is the mozzie problem if they are left too long and they are a problem.

A sensible compromise would be to limit the hours they work and so lessen the chance of any social interaction. I really like my pool guy but not enough to get up at 5;30 am to make him a coffee and chat.

Also it means they are earning without causing any danger and the hit on people's circumstances shouldn't be underestimated

[Groucho]

We've read that a maintenance co. have sought clarification and been told that maintenance work on pools is permitted. The proviso being that only by individuals without contact ought to be the norm.... teams going out is wrong. Some have been turned back in Alsancak.. but that may due to being mob-handed or bad comms yet again.

[elizabeth]

I do hope soon Pools will be mentioned as a group who can get permits to travel

Whilst sorting out pools can't be classed as an essential there is the mozzie problem if they are left too long and they are a problem.

A sensible compromise would be to limit the hours they work and so lessen the chance of any social interaction. I really like my pool guy but not enough to get up at 5;30 am to make him a coffee and chat.

Also it means they are earning without causing any danger and the hit on people's circumstances shouldn't be underestimated

I agree to a point, I can't see a problem if someone is working in your garden or cleaning your pool as long as a safe distance is kept between you, and they need to earn a wage the same as anyone else. My point was that a policeman is disregarding the rules and encouraging others to do the same, how can that be right and how many more are doing it.

[Groucho]

I agree to a point, I can't see a problem if someone is working in your garden or cleaning your pool as long as a safe distance is kept between you, and they need to earn a wage the same as anyone else. My point was that a policeman is disregarding the rules and encouraging others to do the same, how can that be right and how many more are doing it.

This the land where one-way streets, traffic lights and give way signs are mere suggestions....

[sophie]

My pool man is just about to contact the police now and see if he can get some more clarification. He has just come back with the following. Under no circumstances must pool men drive around to pools and will be instantly arrested if they do so. That's two members of the force he's spoken to this week and the information is the same each time. Please don't shoot the messenger!!

Pool man just rung back again to clarify. One of the large companies asked for permission to do "whatever" and were told Yes. Then it was agreed police couldn't let some people work and not the smaller operatives, so police contacted them and withdrew the OK.

This seems to be a more accurate description as to what might have happened, don't you think?

[waddo]

Hope that Cyprus Pools find out they can't work now - they were outside my neighbors house again this morning doing their normal 5 minute full pool clean! He is stuck in the UK so can't do anything about it but due to retire this year then Cyprus Pools are in for another shock as he has all their visits on his security camera - lol.

[EnjoyingTheSun]

Hope that Cyprus Pools find out they can't work now - they were outside my neighbors house again this morning doing their normal 5 minute full pool clean! He is stuck in the UK so can't do anything about it but due to retire this year then Cyprus Pools are in for another shock as he has all their visits on his security camera - lol.

Pretty unlikely to infect him then?

[snd1966]

My pool man is just about to contact the police now and see if he can get some more clarification.!!

Maybe someone should ask Deputy Prime Minister and Foreign Minister Kudret Ozersay , he was the one who made the announcement. But again like residency it will be who stops you on the day.
It hopefully will be only another 11 days and with rain due Friday Saturday Sunday I will stop worrying about those pots

[waddo]

ETS, he will have his own problems being in the UK but Cyprus Pools visit more than his pool so everywhere they go the virus trails along with them - enjoy your next swim if you use them.