Kibkom North Cyprus Forum

Well, it seems that I have become ‘infamous’ on your forum so may I reply to the accusations?

Firstly, if you are going to eavesdrop then you MUST eavesdrop the complete conversation ‘Miss Panchocat’.

So let me give you a gist of the conversation that was taking place at a nearby table with a Turkish Cypriot wife and her English husband and myself.

Most Cypriots that left the beautiful shores of Cyprus to various countries around the world took with them the culture and the traditions of that ‘time’ be it the 50s, 60s, 70s etc. Whilst in their adopted countries they clung desperately to their values so that they at least felt ‘normal’ whilst being made to feel like the foreigners that they had become and whilst having difficulties to adapting to the English way of life.

Whilst the Turkish Cypriots that remained behind moved with the changing times with allowing their children to have girlfriends / boyfriends, go to clubs and bars the poor girls of the ‘London’ Turks had to behave as though they lived in the 50s, 60s, 70s etc. No going out, No boy/girl friends, No socialising with the opposite sex, no this and no that... Therefore, the London Cypriots did retain their ignorance or in other words their ‘peasant’ beliefs (most moved overseas from isolated villages). Therefore, they never did move with the times.

Now it may surprise you to know that I am an educated, 100% pure Turkish Cypriot and trust me when I say I know what I am talking about. I have returned HOME to a place that I fit into and that I have ‘integrated’ extremely well, without being made to feel like an outsider for years. This is my country and you have been allowed to live here and enjoy all its benefits well, those that it does have after nearly 40 years of sanctions.

You call me a lady ‘loosely’ – do you know the meaning of this word? A ‘lady’ would not have gone running to a forum to eagerly tear someone to pieces when they were the one to eavesdrop on a couple of sentences. By the way I never said that I was a local – I said I was one of ‘them’ meaning a London Turk. So, may I suggest that the next time you do not like what you hear then either ask that person or go home and ‘mind your own business’ regarding someone else’s views on their society and their people.

I’m sure that we will meet at Shayna again as the owner is a cousin! Oh, I forgot to say I was bought up by my educated architect father to the traditions and cultures of the 1950s.

I hate to remind people, but, get your facts straight – otherwise it’s slander, so get a life – please.

Figen VUDALI / KEYFIALA

Actually, I should have written stated whose post I was referring to and who had made the accusations and when.

It was:

Panchocat posted on 14 September 2013 at 2:34pm with the topic 'Conversation at Shayna'

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As with most things there are two sides to a story, this lady is quite right in putting her side which shows the conversation in an altogether different light.

well ı dont thınk ıts very good puttıng threads lıke thıs on the kıbkom. ıf ı was a new member or lookıng ın from the outsıde
ı wouldnt lıke what ı see.
and just because thıs ıs her country or not, we are all human and entıtled to each of our own opınıons.
amen

I refuse to enter a slanging match.
(remainder of content deleted to prove you are NOT entering a slanging match|).

Content deleted as it is critical of another forum:

Figen was granted approval to put her side and the right to reply. It was feared that it might bring out some unnecessary comments. In the cicumstances I am deleting the posts which are a trifle out of order, and leaving it as her right to reply.
The one thing we do not want here is for it to become another Cyprus 44, and it could never be so if everyone respected that others have opinions, and there is no need for slanging matches. And I point out the Rules where it is stated that rudeness is not tolerated. Admittedly this might be different things to different people, but if it looks doubtful as to which side of 'rudeness' it falls, then it is better safe than sorry.
I owuld also point out that Soner states he has the right to ban anyone instantly. If he chooses to do so, thatis up to him, but for now, as I say, I will delete the posts that seem out of order, and lock the thread.