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Posted: **Sat 10 May 2014 11:16 am**

I am under no illusions that organising events are hard work, not sure this is what members need at this time, I would rather have updates on what the Turkish papers are saying and what MNCB are reporting, maybe this will come in time, let's hope so.

Posted: **Sat 10 May 2014 2:44 pm**

I take it you are referring to the BRS e-mail that came out today. Seems like they are damned if they do damned if they don't. It is actually the first mail I have had from the BRS about events and under the previous committee I never received either of the of the "news items" you refer to.

So as far as I am concerned this is a positive thing.

Posted: **Sat 10 May 2014 3:43 pm**

I have to agree with Johnnie, this email was the first received and I'm looking forward to attending .... Julia (BRS events) is certainly most enthusiastic and bubbly. I feel sure we will all have a good time on the trip and its nice to have something positive to record as I feel the new committee are doing well

Posted: **Sat 10 May 2014 4:03 pm**

Can you please explain what they are doing well??? I have not heard of them doing anything at all yet?

Posted: **Sat 10 May 2014 4:20 pm**

Chillin, if this is why you joined the BRS you're in good company. I also agree with Mollie the Cat.

Posted: **Sat 10 May 2014 4:34 pm**

What exactly are they doing and when? We're fully paid up members (couldn't make the AGM though) and haven't heard a thing about any events.

Posted: **Sat 10 May 2014 4:54 pm**

sophie wrote:What exactly are they doing and when? We're fully paid up members (couldn't make the AGM though) and haven't heard a thing about any events.

Will forward it to you, perhaps there are database issues you could write to this person to ensure inclusion.

Posted: **Sat 10 May 2014 6:51 pm**

HOPE I AM NOT COMMITTING A SIN HERE, BUT I SHARE THE E MAIL AS RECEIVED BY ME AND MANY OTHER MEMBERS (IF NOT ALL) RE NEXT BRS EVENTS: -

Tickets are now available for our next two events at any of our collection points.

The first event is a Wine Tasting evening. This will take place at the Hut in Lapta on 29th May from 7pm-11pm.

Tickets cost 30tl.

Our popular Boat Trip on the renovated African Queen is on the 19th June from 6pm - 9.30pm. A Meze, followed by a hot grill of fish or chicken and then fresh fruit is provided. The popular Gavin will provide musical entertainment. Give your choice of food when you book your tickets which are priced at 50tl.

Regards

Julia

Events Coordinator

Posted: **Sat 10 May 2014 7:49 pm**

I have refrained from posting again, until now, as I sadly I started all this. However rightly or wrongly elected, it is obvious, that this committee is not going to be allowed to try to make amends and try to function as a committee. Carbotec I have re-read your postings and in everyone you have had a dig at them. Is it your aim to keep this going as the longest running posting?

Posted: **Sun 11 May 2014 6:26 am**

Ref msg 9 above - why should he/she not? There are a number of disgruntled members and interested expats in the BRS saga which arose from the hijacking by a bully element at the 2014 AGM.

Posted: **Sun 11 May 2014 6:54 am**

Owl lady,

I will not rest until the whole truth behind the disgraceful AGM is revealed.

Do you really think that there is nothing going on behind the scenes regarding the AGM!

Posted: **Sun 11 May 2014 8:17 am**

If you have EVIDENCE ie a body of facts, please state them, otherwise, like someone accused the BRS of being it is all "Hot air"

Posted: **Sun 11 May 2014 8:41 am**

To try to put people in the picture. Yes, there are many disgruntled members of BRS following the AGM, and there are those who question the legality of much that happened. Enquiries are being made, not out of any spite, or malice, but to ensure that BRS reputation does not take an unfair nosedive and to ensure that the AGM did follow correct procedure thus making it valid.. One could say that these postings could create a nose dive, but my own opinion is that those who wish to be heard, should be heard, and they ARE ASSEMBLING 'FACTS' . wHAT UNFOLDS REMAINS TO BE SEEN, BUT IT IS NOT 'HOT AIR' (SORRY CAPS STUCK AGAIN) it is genuine concern.

Posted: **Sun 11 May 2014 8:46 am**

Constant bashing for bashings sake in not bringing any facts to the forefront. If there are no facts it is hot air. I have no problem with those that wish to be heard should be heard, but really they should have something to say.

I really do hope when the facts come out they are supported by evidence.

Posted: **Sun 11 May 2014 8:49 am**

I totally agree with “Owl Lady” on this. I attended the debacle and have still not seen any replies from BRS as to what the current committee’s explanation was for the “hi-jacking” of the meeting by several people some of whom are now on the committee by default.....No AGM minutes have yet been published either and it is now a month since the meeting took place.
I, for one need BRS as an organisation to get closer to its “ordinary” member’s requirements and organising functions for me is not my highest priority right now.
I do know that a lot of people over here are concerned that we may end up in the Eurozone in the event of a settlement but I’m unsure as to why or how the BRS committee are going to be able to influence the decision taken and why, according to the article in Cyprus Today a few weeks ago, does it appear as such a high priority on their “things to do list”?
Property issues from the past (not future) are to me are one of the saddest and most stressful events affecting ex- pats over here. MNCB have been doing a great job, as has the Home Buyers Pressure Group run by Marian Stokes (HBPG) and some other organisations. For what it’s worth my “things to do list” would have that issue right at the top of the priority list.

Posted: **Sun 11 May 2014 9:10 am**

Be honest Lally, where would you have started to write up the minutes of that meeting??

Posted: **Sun 11 May 2014 9:38 am**

Good question Owl Lady, I wouldn't like to have to do it but I assume that somehow the minutes need to be produced from a legality perspective. I know that Marion was "volunteered” to do it but it does seem to be a pretty impossible task without help. What a dilemma......

Posted: **Sun 11 May 2014 11:03 am**

Well you won't hear the truth, every time the old committee tried to explain they were shouted down, not allowing members to listen to what the committee members were trying to explain. This was one of the two motions which the new committee wanted explaining (why so many resignations and the reasons why they resigned)
I could go on and on but this is not the place to air it.

Posted: **Sun 11 May 2014 11:13 am**

I quite agree with johnnie if there is evidence it should be revealed but as there are two separate cases in the process of being heard the lawyers have asked not to post. The cases have been paid for and are proceeding . When they start hopefully we will all have the facts as soon as the date is fixed I will let you all know.

Posted: **Sun 11 May 2014 11:21 am**

Interesting, "Moriarty". What has become very clear is the fact the 'Members' will not let this issue to go away without a full and detailed explanation and legal assurance the proceedings met with due diligence in accordance with law.

Posted: **Sun 11 May 2014 11:29 am**

As I understood civil action inTRNC.

1 you file a case with an advocate.
2 The Advocate then serves papers on the person, once proof of serving is registered with the court and a fee is paid you then wait for the papers to go in front of a judge.
3 The judge then decides if an action can be taken if yes you await a court date.

Remember the court closes for the summer. The judges are prone to striking and you will be lucky if a case will be heard within 2 years.

This is just what I was told, do not know how true it is.

So these 2 cases is the BRS named in either? Also why the secrecy? Normally reporting on proceedings is restricted in Jury trials.

Posted: **Sun 11 May 2014 12:01 pm**

I bow to your superior knowledge johnnie I am sure these people know what they are doing so don,t worry.

Posted: **Sun 11 May 2014 2:09 pm**

terry2366 wrote:I bow to your superior knowledge johnnie I am sure these people know what they are doing so don,t worry.

Not worried. Not my knowledge which you will see if you read my post.

Posted: **Sun 11 May 2014 2:24 pm**

Posted: **Sun 11 May 2014 5:09 pm**

As for the legality of the "new "committee surely the BRS's legal advisor Peyman Erginal would have called it null & void at the time?

Posted: **Sun 11 May 2014 5:13 pm**

Depends on who the lawyer is representing at the time! You are treading on very dangerous ground!

Posted: **Sun 11 May 2014 6:10 pm**

sorry not intended

Posted: **Sun 11 May 2014 6:18 pm**

You may have hit the nail on the head two other lefkosia lawyers disagree with her.

Posted: **Sun 11 May 2014 10:16 pm**

Don't worry Owl Lady,

There is so much going on behind the scenes with all of this, but it will all come out in the wash! What goes around comes around as they say!

Forwards or backwards ??????

It's just about the members, only they can have their say, which must be heard - eventually!

Warmest regards

Posted: **Mon 12 May 2014 9:11 am**

Posted: **Mon 12 May 2014 11:02 am**

This sounds like the witch hunt that brought 44 down. Is it not time to close this thread.

Posted: **Mon 12 May 2014 11:19 am**

Please be aware moderators are monitoring this thread and others about the BRS.

It does not appear to be a witch hunt and certainly this forum is nothing like Cyprus 44. It appears that there are many people still upset about what happened at the AGM and want answers . Many are very concerned as to whether the correct process was followed with regards to the new commitee being elected. Some are also asking why as paid up members of the BRS they have not received any communication from them. Finally there are also some on this forum who want to see the new commitee given a chance to take the organisation forward.

Plenty of unanswered question. We will continue to monitor and take action if necessary.

Posted: **Mon 12 May 2014 1:21 pm**

Marions wrote:HOPE I AM NOT COMMITTING A SIN HERE, BUT I SHARE THE E MAIL AS RECEIVED BY ME AND MANY OTHER MEMBERS (IF NOT ALL) RE NEXT BRS EVENTS: -

Tickets are now available for our next two events at any of our collection points.

The first event is a Wine Tasting evening. This will take place at the Hut in Lapta on 29th May from 7pm-11pm.

Tickets cost 30tl.

Our popular Boat Trip on the renovated African Queen is on the 19th June from 6pm - 9.30pm. A Meze, followed by a hot grill of fish or chicken and then fresh fruit is provided. The popular Gavin will provide musical entertainment. Give your choice of food when you book your tickets which are priced at 50tl.

Regards

Julia

Oops sorry guys but the wrong address was given for the WINE TASTING Social Evening at "The Hut" on Lapta Strip.
The date should have been Thursday May 22nd from 6pm.
Another Senior moment!!
Apologies again.
Events Coordinator

Posted: **Mon 12 May 2014 3:55 pm**

Let the debate continue and let the Mods do just that (moderate). If you have no interest/point of view it is so simple, do not click the thread - just ignore it. There is no 'witch hunt' involved here - members want answers as to how it was allowed to happen, who instigated the hijacking of the AGM, who refused to allow the then committee to bring to the attention of members perceived irregularities in membership numbers, accounting and spouses serving with their partners on the Committee. The 'braying' from some members at the 2014 AGM was rude and orchestrated in my opinion.

Posted: **Mon 12 May 2014 4:48 pm**

Posh, if the moderators are monitoring this thread then why have none of them suggested that the BRS open their own forum so that the members can "Moan" or "Praise" directley to those it concerns the most? This and other threads about the BRS are only of use to members as the majority of the information discussed is only available to members - seems just a place for a pointless moan.

Posted: **Mon 12 May 2014 5:18 pm**

You know what the thread is, why do you open it and even comment on it? I see lots of threads on here of little interest to me which I don't look at, homes for dogs, baby clothes, cars for sale, clocks wanted, its easy don't look.

Posted: **Mon 12 May 2014 5:35 pm**

It is simple, as far as I know, someone reads the posting, but they do not contribute to forums!

Posted: **Mon 12 May 2014 5:42 pm**

Darzee wrote:This sounds like the witch hunt that brought 44 down. Is it not time to close this thread.

If you don't like it......DONT READ IT, YET ALONE POST ON IT

Posted: **Mon 12 May 2014 5:57 pm**

waddo wrote:Posh, if the moderators are monitoring this thread then why have none of them suggested that the BRS open their own forum so that the members can "Moan" or "Praise" directley to those it concerns the most? This and other threads about the BRS are only of use to members as the majority of the information discussed is only available to members - seems just a place for a pointless moan.

Firstly at the risk of repeating - moderators are closely monitoring this thread and if it is decided that it contravenes the forum rules then appropriate action will be taken.

With regards to the BRS opening their own forum for members, that is a decision for the BRS not Kibkom. Maybe they will in time. Rest assured that there are many BRS members and also new/old committee also reading this and other threads. It is really up to the new BRS committee to make their own arrangements as to how they wish to receive feedback from members - whether that be good or bad.

At the moment I cannot agree that this is just a thread for a pointless moan. My reading of it is that there are still many members of the BRS who have a lot of questions they want answering. I would encourage them to direct those questions at the BRS committee. However; for whatever reason the answers they require are not forthcoming at the moment. Members of the BRS are posting on this forum possibly out of frustration at the lack of answers and are trying to understand if others feel the same.

The title of this thread has the letters BRS in it, some will read as they are members, some (like me) will read because they may have been considering joining but now not really sure, some will read because they read everything.....all about personal choice. No one has to read this thread.

Monitoring continues.

Posted: **Mon 12 May 2014 6:00 pm**

Carbotec wrote:
Darzee wrote:This sounds like the witch hunt that brought 44 down. Is it not time to close this thread.

If you don't like it......DONT READ IT, YET ALONE POST ON IT

Bit harsh isn`t it? Sounds more like a concerned member that cares about Kibkom. Should we not be more tolerant of other members views? IMHO

Posted: **Mon 12 May 2014 6:41 pm**

Hi Looseboots,

Agree that it is good that a Kibkom member has concerns and wants to raise them so that this forum does not got he way of Cyprus 44.

I think I answered the posting in my message (32) and also in my last message.

There is IMO no witch hunt "a la" Cyprus 44 so thread remains open for people to comment on.

Posted: **Wed 28 May 2014 1:19 pm**

It's about time the BRS members heard the truth regarding accounts, membership numbers, and banking or should I say lack of it.

Posted: **Wed 28 May 2014 4:23 pm**

I think if there was nothing to hide they would have been published, maybe the previous treasurer could help ? Is it still the same one?

Posted: **Wed 28 May 2014 4:36 pm**

If you require more info on anything BRS related, why not email the Chairman and ask him the relevant questions?

Posted: **Wed 28 May 2014 7:39 pm**

Why ? Are they not supposed to be presented at the AGM or published?. Or correct me if I am wrong.

Posted: **Thu 29 May 2014 6:00 am**

PapaBravo wrote:If you require more info on anything BRS related, why not email the Chairman and ask him the relevant questions?

Why do you think the old committee were not allowed to answer questions from the members at the recent AGM, The now new committee does not want the truth known and shouted down whatever committee person was talking.

Posted: **Thu 29 May 2014 8:11 am**

Of the four pictures taken at different times it looks like mr Day with the mike in his hand in all of them.." I am not giving this mike up as I will not get it back " ?

Posted: **Thu 29 May 2014 5:53 pm**

Hi Terry
Mr Day was asked several times by the committee to return the microphone at the AGM and as a true politician he ignored every request.

Posted: **Thu 05 Jun 2014 6:41 am**

PapaBravo wrote:If you require more info on anything BRS related, why not email the Chairman and ask him the relevant questions?

I have emailed him over 10 days ago and have not even received acknowledgment of my mail, how good is that.

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