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Wifi TV
Posted: Sun 10 Aug 2014 6:50 pm
by Villavalhalla
Hi
I'm about to buy a SAMSUNG WIFI TV and I have multimax ...... Probably a stupid question, but does this mean I don't have to use the lap top (HDMI lead) anymore.
Is it like a big computer? Does it have a different operating system?
can I somehow make link my iPad to it wirelessly?
If anyone has one, what do you think of them?
Any techy out there that can explain it to me I'd be grateful x
Re: Wifi TV
Posted: Sun 10 Aug 2014 6:53 pm
by karmels
Multimax are the people to ask, very helpful just give them a ring.
Re: Wifi TV
Posted: Sun 10 Aug 2014 8:50 pm
by Kavenkoy
Hi
We have the Samsung smart tv with built in wifi as a spare in the bedroom in UK .
It is connected wireless to the main router ,this then enables the tv to use its own library and players ,plus you tubes n interbet .
We have never connected iPad to it ,or looked into it but I would think I pad to your interbet as normal then via hdmi lead you could work .
Then again the search on tv via wifi anyways enables you to watch you. Want anyway ?
Kav
Re: Wifi TV
Posted: Sun 10 Aug 2014 10:01 pm
by karmels
Kavenkoy
Your tv is in the UK, how can you say that the same system will work in Northern Cyprus.
That is why I say contact the internet provider here as it does make a vast difference.
Re: Wifi TV
Posted: Sun 10 Aug 2014 10:26 pm
by Philoz
karmels has made an excellent point.
I have a router here that I brought out from the UK.
There It happily covered all of the house no problem.
If you have a Villa here,or an apartment, it will be full of steel(in the concrete) which interferes with Wi Fi no end.
The same router here barely gets its signal out of the room it is in.
My way of doing things here, is to either 'hard wire' everything, or use 'powerline connectors'-I wouldn't buy a wireless TV for use here personally.
My opinion, but based on personal experience of living here.
Re: Wifi TV
Posted: Sun 10 Aug 2014 10:31 pm
by karmels
Philoz
See by your photo you have not found the dye yet, are you going ginger??
Re: Wifi TV
Posted: Sun 10 Aug 2014 11:17 pm
by Philoz
Karmels -apart from being massively -I haven't got a clue what you are on about.
What I suggest is you have a read of your post in the 'Cold light of day',and enlighten me further.
Apologies to OP of a sensible question,not my fault it went .
( Karmels I am now having to apologise to other forum members for your behaviour-please get a grip of yourself )
Re: Wifi TV
Posted: Mon 11 Aug 2014 3:53 am
by Kavenkoy
karmels wrote:Kavenkoy
Your tv is in the UK, how can you say that the same system will work in Northern Cyprus.
That is why I say contact the internet provider here as it does make a vast difference.
I was answering a question on a tv .....nothing else ,I kind of gathered he was in Cyprus ,and clearly stated I was in UK .
Dear me some people hey ,get out a bit more r kid
Kav
Re: Wifi TV
Posted: Mon 11 Aug 2014 5:31 am
by butterfly
Juist remember wifii and internet here is not consistent and you will have to rely on good old DVDs at some point. So get yourself a cheap DVD player from UK to play your pirated DVDs on!!!!!
Or get a basic digiturk package to keep you going when the internet fails.
Re: Wifi TV
Posted: Mon 11 Aug 2014 6:34 am
by Carbotec
I have this television and yes it connects wirelessly to your internet and by cable if you require. I am connected via cable as this is faster than wireless.
It is a brilliant piece of kit which I purchased from Marks World and their service was excellent, hope this helps.
Re: Wifi TV
Posted: Mon 11 Aug 2014 6:50 am
by Villavalhalla
Thanks for the info guys.
Been here 12 years and multimax have finally brought a decent service here, so I thought I'd upgrade my equipment accordingly.
Carbotec - if you are still having to connect via HDMI for a 'smoother' service when streaming LIVE TV programmes, I wonder what is the point of buying the wireless TV (for me) as the only reason I use the TV for is to stream UK TV and movies.
Hmmmm ,.... Don't know what to do now ...hahahahahahaha
Re: Wifi TV
Posted: Mon 11 Aug 2014 6:57 am
by Villavalhalla
I was trying to do away with the laptop next to the TV ( im lazy to keep getting up to change channel lol)
I was imagining that the TV would be like a big computer with its own operating system that I could access the internet/ film on etc using the remote control. Or did you mean you've connected the HDMI lead to the router directly?
Sorry for the rambling, it's a lot of money and I just want to be sure I'm getting the right kit
Thank x
Re: Wifi TV
Posted: Mon 11 Aug 2014 7:58 am
by stevie-d
I have Samsung Smart TV here in TRNC also Multimax, works great, I had a little problem getting all the I players IITV 4OD, 5 on demand, Erol from Multimax came round, he said if I purchased
http://www.streamvia.com £4.99 per month it would be okay, logged on to
http://www.streamvia.com, while he was in the my house hey presto ALL Iplayers even STV ( Scottish Television ) I hail from Scotland so this was a welcome bonus . It all works from the wifi router which is about 10 ft from the TV
Re: Wifi TV
Posted: Mon 11 Aug 2014 9:49 am
by sophie
Our wifi with router works perfectly in Living Room, Kitchen and downstairs bedroom/office. However, upstairs its flippin useless for anything to do with TV, although there is enough "power" for IPlayer radio. Erol was in the house and its because of the huge amount of concrete and steel it has to go through. I thought perhaps another router half way up the stairs would do the trick, but apparently not, it would still have to pass through all the steel etc. Good job I love listening to the radio!!
Re: Wifi TV
Posted: Mon 11 Aug 2014 12:34 pm
by Chrispyb
Check out the link
http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/sis.html?_nkw ... KING+PLUGS.
You just connect to a mains supply, plug in the lead from your router, this sends Wi-Fi through out your ring main, in any room, anywhere in your property, you plug in the receiver and hay presto you have a good Wi-Fi signal.
I found it cured all my problems, hope this helps
Re: Wifi TV
Posted: Mon 11 Aug 2014 6:30 pm
by Philoz
Sophie-I would recommend these for the houses here-
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B005KTM2G6
They use your house electrical system as an 'ethernet'-I get 20mbs consistently.
Re: Wifi TV
Posted: Mon 11 Aug 2014 8:41 pm
by sophie
I looked at the "plugs" but it looks as if you have a separate internet telephone like cable in the bottom of each one, or am I mistaken?
Re: Wifi TV
Posted: Tue 12 Aug 2014 6:08 am
by Carbotec
Villavalhalla wrote:Thanks for the info guys.
Been here 12 years and multimax have finally brought a decent service here, so I thought I'd upgrade my equipment accordingly.
Carbotec - if you are still having to connect via HDMI for a 'smoother' service when streaming LIVE TV programmes, I wonder what is the point of buying the wireless TV (for me) as the only reason I use the TV for is to stream UK TV and movies.
Hmmmm ,.... Don't know what to do now ...hahahahahahaha
You seem to have missed what I said, I connect my TV to the internet via a cat5 lead which is faster than wireless.
Re: Wifi TV
Posted: Tue 12 Aug 2014 8:35 am
by erol
Villavalhalla wrote:Hi
I'm about to buy a SAMSUNG WIFI TV and I have multimax ...... Probably a stupid question, but does this mean I don't have to use the lap top (HDMI lead) anymore.
Is it like a big computer? Does it have a different operating system?
can I somehow make link my iPad to it wirelessly?
If anyone has one, what do you think of them?
Any techy out there that can explain it to me I'd be grateful x
You can get a Samsung smart tv to work here for uk content (bbc iplayer, ıtv player,4od and the like). There are some issues. Firstly you need to connect the tv to your internet connection. You can do this either via a wire (cat5 cable) or wirelessly (via wifi). Personally I would always recommend connecting it with a wired connection (cat5 cable) if at all possible.
Once you have the TV connected to the internet (preferably with a wired cable link) you then need to force the TV to the relevant 'region' with regard to the apps it makes available to you. If the TV does not think you are in the UK then it will not offer you the apps for UK services like ıplayer and ıtv player. How you change the apps region varies for different models of Samsung TV. There is a guide here on how to do this
https://support.unlocator.com/customer/ ... g-smart-tv
Now you should have the tv on the internet and when you search for apps you can install you should see the Uk apps for things like iplayer,ıtv player,4od etc. However you are still not out of the woods yet. Although you can now download the apps for things like itv player the apps themselves will still see you as being outside the UK and not let you watch anything. With a Multimax connection and for bbc iplayer this should not be a problem because at Multimax we automatically behind the scenes make traffic to the BBC (and only the BBC) look like it is coming from the UK. So BBC iplayer should now work. However for other services like ıtv player and 4od this will not be the case. On a windows laptop to get such services to think you are in the UK you could use a VPN (MM provides one for free for such devices). However unfortunately you can not configure such a VPN on the TV itself as they do not support such. There are several ways round this but the simplest is to use a third party (paid for) dns based vpn service designed specifically for devices like the smart TV. I personally use one called smartstream from a company streamvia.com and it costs 4.99 sterling per month. Using this I can then use smart apps on my samsung TV for ıtv player, 4od and Netflix (with a netflix subscription) as well as bbc iplayer which works anyway without the smartstream service.
I hope this makes some kind of sense.
Re: Wifi TV
Posted: Tue 12 Aug 2014 1:22 pm
by silverfox1
Hi Erol,
Understand the VPN but I don't understand how to get the VPN on the TV as it has no hard drive.
Sorry for being a technophobe!
Re: Wifi TV
Posted: Tue 12 Aug 2014 2:30 pm
by erol
silverfox1 wrote:Hi Erol,
Understand the VPN but I don't understand how to get the VPN on the TV as it has no hard drive.
Sorry for being a technophobe!
Some devices you can configure a 'standard' VPN on, devices like windows or apple laptops and desktop machines, or android based devices and such. Some devices you can not configure a 'standard' VPN on , devices like smart TV's typically. For these kind of devices , a different solution has been found by companies like streamvia.com and hidemyass.com (and many others) that requires only that you can configure the DNS server on the device and nothing more (which you can do on Samsung smart TV's). The main difference between these two systems is that a 'standard' VPN, whilst you are connected to it, will make it look like you are in the UK to any and every website you visit where as the dns based solution designed for devices where all you can manually configure is a dns server address will only make those sites the company providing the service decides to 'support' think you are in the UK and any others will see you as being outside the UK as normal.
In summary any device you can configure a 'standard' vpn on you can just use a standard VPN , either a third party one or the MM free one and whilst connected to that all sites you visit will think you are in the UK. On devices where you can not configure a standard VPN but you can manually configure the DNS server address, then 'dns based' VPN services can be used and these will make those websites that are supported by the service provider think you are in the UK.
As ever I hope this makes some kind of sense.
Re: Wifi TV
Posted: Tue 12 Aug 2014 3:16 pm
by aljanyoung
Don't know if this helps, we brought a BT WiFi extender out from the UK and had it programmed with our router, we now get a much better signal in the sitting room where the extender is located. It cost about £40 from the BT shop.
Re: Wifi TV
Posted: Tue 12 Aug 2014 4:14 pm
by sophie
aljanyoung, Would that I could pop into a BT shop. but they are a bit few and far between here, sadly. Downstairs is OK, i.e. router pretty much covers the whole area including two bedrooms - it's trying to get a signal up stairs to other rooms that I'm struggling with. If we had a socket half way up the stairs it would probably help, but we don't.
Re: Wifi TV
Posted: Tue 12 Aug 2014 5:20 pm
by Villavalhalla
Erol - many thanks for your explanation, it was full, informative and not too technical for me to understand.
I have made a decision now.
Thank you too, to everyone who contributed.
Kind Regards
Samantha
Re: Wifi TV
Posted: Tue 12 Aug 2014 6:58 pm
by Philoz
Villavalhalla - Erol is the most knowledgeable person in N Cyprus in all matters Internet in my opinion-you are fortunate, his advise is always spot on.
Re: Wifi TV
Posted: Wed 13 Aug 2014 8:59 pm
by Hector
I have been reading about the new ac routers that have dual band, 2.4mhz and 5mhz. Assuming you have a laptop etc that works with the new ac routers, would that improve the wi fi signal strength from the multimax broadband?
Re: Wifi TV
Posted: Thu 14 Aug 2014 7:53 am
by erol
Hector wrote:I have been reading about the new ac routers that have dual band, 2.4mhz and 5mhz. Assuming you have a laptop etc that works with the new ac routers, would that improve the wi fi signal strength from the multimax broadband?
Potentially an 802.11ac based wifi router/access point connected to a similarly specced device would have greater range than an 802.11n based one. However with wifi actual performance in the real world in a specific location can often defy theoretical capabilities of such devices.
For an overview of the differences between older wifi standards and the new ac standard have a look here.
http://www.trustedreviews.com/opinions/ ... difference
Re: Wifi TV
Posted: Fri 15 Aug 2014 5:03 pm
by Hector
Thanks for that Erol. It appears that the new ac standard will normally give improved wi fi signal. This is designed for normal telephone line broadband to the router. Will this also work with the satellite type system in the TRNC as supplied by multimax?
Re: Wifi TV
Posted: Fri 15 Aug 2014 6:27 pm
by erol
Hector wrote:Thanks for that Erol. It appears that the new ac standard will normally give improved wi fi signal. This is designed for normal telephone line broadband to the router. Will this also work with the satellite type system in the TRNC as supplied by multimax?
The two 'sides' of a router are separate. So on the WAN (external) side you have your internet connection, be it adsl / telephone line based, cable based, fibre based or whatever. Then on the LAN (internal) side of the router you have the sharing and distribution of that single external internet connection into the router, out to the various local machines and devices attached to it. The internal machines connected to it can be connected with wires (Ethernet cat 5/6 cable) or wirelessly via wifi. A 802.11ac based router (vs an 802.11n or older one) will not make the external WAN (internet) connection into it any better it will only potentially improve the distribution of it out from the router to internal machines connected to the router via wifi.
So if for example you have currently have a laptop that you connect to you 802.11n router from a specific location in your house, where due to the distance between the two, number of things (like walls) between them and general Wi-Fi inference in your location means that the link from laptop to router is slower and less reliable than the external internet link coming into the router, then potentially moving to an 802.11ac based router may solve this issue. It will not make your internet connection into the house any better, but it might make the link from the laptop to the router better such that it is as good or exceeds that of the internet link, where as with an older 802.11n based router this is not the case.
As ever I hope this makes some kind of sense and answers your question.
Re: Wifi TV
Posted: Sun 17 Aug 2014 8:34 pm
by Hector
Thanks Erol.