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Is it true

Posted: Fri 10 Oct 2014 3:03 pm
by Makum
Was told by a local that Syrian/Kurdish refugees are to be resettled from Turkish refugee camps to NCyprus, apparently up to100,000 are on there way, and are to be used to repopulate villages. Have not seen this anywhere in the news, does anyone know anything about this.

Re: Is it true

Posted: Fri 10 Oct 2014 3:11 pm
by journey1
No idea about the truth but we need to really focus on what is happening beside us on this nearby island and be welcoming from a humanitarian perspective.
How would we feel if there ever was a travesty, even quarter of that happening on our European doorstep?
The pain is the same whoever we are or wherever we are.

Re: Is it true

Posted: Fri 10 Oct 2014 3:33 pm
by fatsam
I guess you need to chill out.... we are surrounded by rumours, and no need to contribute to scaremonger....
my best suggestion, is
relax, enjoy life and get together with positive people that have more common sense than spreading unnecessary fear among both the locals and the expats....

have a nice day "as the yanks said"
fatsam

Re: Is it true

Posted: Fri 10 Oct 2014 9:28 pm
by Makum
Chilled here fatsam, another few thousand waiters can only improve the Ooops service we normally get here, cheap labour all round even the Africans may be made redundant, things can only get better.

Re: Is it true

Posted: Fri 10 Oct 2014 10:59 pm
by BLUE BUTTERFLY
Makum wrote:Chilled here fatsam, another few thousand waiters can only improve the Ooops service we normally get here, cheap labour all round even the Africans may be made redundant, things can only get better.
I think your post is offensive, insensitive and racist.

Are you by any chance, as your name suggests, from the Sunderland area?

If so, I will make allowances, as it is well known that the people from the South of Tyne and Wear are brain dead, ignorant bigots.

Re: Is it true

Posted: Fri 10 Oct 2014 11:04 pm
by mac
Butterfly..
I agree with you..
Unfortunately for some..
Ignorance is bliss..

Re: Is it true

Posted: Sat 11 Oct 2014 12:10 am
by Sandman
Making generalisations about people from different parts of the country doesn't help !! Get a grip you lot !!!

Re: Is it true

Posted: Sat 11 Oct 2014 3:00 pm
by fatsam
Well hello, angry crowd,
No need to be angry or emotional, please.
I am sure you are old and wise enough to recognise if a piece of "rumour" is spread to cause havoc or just merely a tasteless joke.

The title "is it true" is enough to indicate that the information you were given about the refugees to be brought in to the TRNC is baseless, until you hear it officially from the government sources.

Its a forum, and not a ground for slagging match. "Please debate", one should be a bit civil towards others, and "respect" their views regardless.
Nothing wrong with refugees or economical migrants. This earth belongs to all, and we are all entitle to live where we find peace, happiness, and employment.

By telling you to "chill out", I meant take these rumours with a pinch of salt... Wait and see. No need to be outraged by comments.
In the TRNC we meet people from all walks of life, each has his/ her story to tell. As me, you and the other 30,000 expats moved to here, those people have the right to live in peace and seek some kind of improvements to their social needs. Of course, "provided they comply to the laws of this land "same as all of us".

I still say, chill out, and be calm, and no need for "is it true"???

fatsam

Re: Is it true

Posted: Sat 11 Oct 2014 5:07 pm
by the butlers wife
Blue Butterfly,

I am from Darlington which is south of the Tyne & wear, I do not class myself as either ignorant or biggotted.
Making generalisations is dangerous and shows a lack of respect to people who were born in this area.



The butlers wife

Re: Is it true

Posted: Sat 11 Oct 2014 5:18 pm
by Col
Agree, it is typical of a 6 star "true kibcomer" to generalise!

Re: Is it true

Posted: Sat 11 Oct 2014 5:40 pm
by sophie
I hate it when people post a message "Is it true" How should anyone expect that we would know. It's just people who are rumour mongers that do that. Or people who want to get themselves noticed, or sometimes a combination of the two.

Re: Is it true

Posted: Sat 11 Oct 2014 6:20 pm
by karmels
I have notice this with fatsams posting, he is gathering stars faster than one could say, fatsam.

Re: Is it true

Posted: Sat 11 Oct 2014 7:37 pm
by BLUE BUTTERFLY
the butlers wife wrote:Blue Butterfly,

I am from Darlington which is south of the Tyne & wear, I do not class myself as either ignorant or biggotted.
Making generalisations is dangerous and shows a lack of respect to people who were born in this area.



The butlers wife
Sincere apologies to you. Lost my head for a moment as racism makes me so angry.

Maybe a better reply to the original poster should have been that Cyprus would be a better place if ignorant bigots like himself went back to where they came from.

Re: Is it true

Posted: Sat 11 Oct 2014 8:38 pm
by Ragged Robin
I thought that with all the mainland Turks, Brits, Russians etc. there were no "unpopulated" villages left and overcrowding was looming as a probem (as it already is on some roads) and serious concerns arising that the ethnic Turkish Cypriots were in danger of being outnumbered and their culture swamped .

However the reactions of the International community (most of whom would probably be heartily glad to see the problem moved to anywhere but their backyard) and particularly of the Greek Cypriots , would be interesting to a proposal to home the refugees on land claimed by the GCs.

With respect, Makum, I rather suspect you were the victim of a "wind up"!

Re: Is it true

Posted: Sat 11 Oct 2014 11:34 pm
by fatsam
I am truly flummoxed with your remarks "karmels", no need for such tune "its not cricket old chap".

I only responded to "is it true" by indirectly saying:
recognise and establish facts, don't get lost and mislead by others. Be civil and sport.
Gathering stars and getting noticed is not my style at all. I am too old for such behaviour, yet and however, I enjoy intelligent response and informative debate. more important, I found the "is it true" heading worthwhile responding to.

We all know, the issue of the refugees is a political matter, more than a "humanitarian" crisis. Neighbouring countries to the conflict zones are fully aware of the problem the refugees bring with them. I guess Turkey and TRNC know what to do and how to deal with the refugees. They have methods for monitoring the situation.

Don't get emotional or and influenced by media reports on conflict zones, however look at the wider picture "range of reports" and try to read between the lines. Who is benefiting from exploitation of the refugees crises to deflect attention from other conflicts.
Hearsays by a local is not even worthwhile repeating or and creating a topic about. Its like " send enforcements we are going to advance" which ended up to be "send four & six pence we are going for a dance"

good to be a sport
fatsam

Re: Is it true

Posted: Sun 12 Oct 2014 7:38 am
by sophie
Fatsam, you still haven't grasped the situation. Why start at thread "is it true"? To title a thread like that is just nonsense - it means nothing, it just gives you the opportunity the start a totally unnecessary rumour, which I suspect was your object in the first place.

Re: Is it true

Posted: Sun 12 Oct 2014 8:10 am
by karmels
Well said sophie, from his first posting he has bombarded the site with replies some in large bold text.

Re: Is it true

Posted: Sun 12 Oct 2014 8:12 am
by Kanonier
I thought this thread was initiated by Makum?

Re: Is it true

Posted: Sun 12 Oct 2014 9:00 am
by sophie
Sorry, I got the name wrong, but sentiments are the same!

Re: Is it true

Posted: Sun 12 Oct 2014 11:47 am
by Makum
Starting the thread "is it true" was see if anyone had knowledge of the subject, the person who gave me the info said it was on the local TV news, the fact that it has not been reported in the local news papers is of little consequence as the Goverment probably pulls the strings.
My heart goes out to the refugees that are victims of a situation that basically has it's roots entwined with Tony Blairs and George Bushes illegal war in Iraq and now with the chickens coming home to roost,the west expects Turkey to get its hands dirty tidying up the mess. A situation due to our proximity that is bound to have some effect.
Regarding you Bluebutt, it's Guardian reading lefties of your ilk, screaming racist at every opertunity that are responsible for the likes of the the Rochdale child grooming scandal and general social engineering that has turned the Uk into a multicultural nightmare, my comment regarding waiters was not ment to offend, was a remark as to where we would probably see the refugees if they are coming employed and the the knock on effect it may have on workers in that sector, your remark is out of order and not what the site would expect from a five star general.

Re: Is it true

Posted: Sun 12 Oct 2014 12:45 pm
by journey1
I'm just astounded that this thread has brought out such lateral and bizarre comments. What happened when people actually tried to walk in the shoes of others?
I've seen the results of political debacles where the innocent individuals and families are the true victims and I still believe that a Mum with a babe in arms or a toddler injured and no medical care available, could not give a dam about the world politics or how it came about.
Please do not lecture me about the politics, affect or any so called generalist 'understanding'.
Go see for yourself and tell me then you feel the same.

Re: Is it true

Posted: Sun 12 Oct 2014 2:31 pm
by Ragged Robin
Oh dear! What a pity such a serious subject has yet again degenerated into personalities and points scoring.

Has anyone seen or heard anything to substantiate or refuse the "rumour" hears by Makum (who did make it clear in his first post that it was hearsay info) ?

Have they thought about the implications for the TRNC if it were true? Because whatever the other problems asssociated with homing these refugees it is obvious that the TRNC (which doesnt even have a NHS for its own citizens) would be unable to provide the medical care and other social facillities needed, thus involving other countries and International Charities coming here to care for them and de facto acknowledging its existence! Plus the international community would owe a "favour" to Turkey and the TRNC.

Re: Is it true

Posted: Sun 12 Oct 2014 6:39 pm
by karmels
makun.
I only saw 3, 72 seater buses at the new harbour, so when do the rest arrive??

Re: Is it true

Posted: Sun 12 Oct 2014 7:05 pm
by Makum
Well Karmels not being one to start a rumour, but have seen them moving beds into that new Lara Beach hotel and a cruise ship moored by the power station, can only mean one thing, they are now doing sight seeing tours to watch the smoke at the power station and Burhans are storing furniture at Lara park. God help us direct flights will be starting next week.

Re: Is it true

Posted: Sun 12 Oct 2014 9:57 pm
by BLUE BUTTERFLY
Never read the Guardian. When in the UK, many moons ago, I only ever read the Newcastle Evening Chronicle.

Stay blissful makum