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I found this link regarding the South side introducing rules for swimming pools and just wanted to ask are their similar rules regarding, say, community swimming pools, ie. if tourists rent your property on a complex do you have to have a lifeguard if there are x amount of people using the pool, as suggested in the article.


http://www.news.cyprus-property-buyers. ... id=0047368

They don't do rules.... They have the shrug.

Ideally, yes.
However I have no knowledge of such rules. Makes sense though.
You could add in rules or advice of your own on a brochure to supply to renters.
I supply a brochure with mine advising of general rules of the house etc. as well as local places to visit, where to get shopping, hire car recommendations etc etc.
If you have a pool add in some advice on safety, hygiene, making sure children are safe etc.
Common sense really

CatalkoyChris wrote:Ideally, yes.
However I have no knowledge of such rules. Makes sense though.
You could add in rules or advice of your own on a brochure to supply to renters.
I supply a brochure with mine advising of general rules of the house etc. as well as local places to visit, where to get shopping, hire car recommendations etc etc.
If you have a pool add in some advice on safety, hygiene, making sure children are safe etc.
Common sense really

Thanks for that Chris, was just curious.

Groucho wrote:They don't do rules.... They have the shrug.

Groucho, oh ye of little faith..it's a wonder that all TC's are not walking around permanently hunched up with the amount shrugging they do

They are, aren't they??

Surely the firm that looks after your pool, has a board by your pool with all the rules on, safety etc, if not I think it is time to change to a more. reputable firm

Our board states there isnt a life guard so swim at your own risk but we do have life belts.

Royalcorpsoftranspor wrote:Surely the firm that looks after your pool, has a board by your pool with all the rules on, safety etc, if not I think it is time to change to a more. reputable firm

I think that the point that the OP was making is that - on the South side - it may no longer be enough to put up a board to 'cover your arse', and that 'Public Pools' may now need to be staffed, and presumably have a means of barring access when staff are not in attendance.

This is roughly in line with EU requirements. - Do we aspire to them? - Will we regret it, if we do?

I wonder who will be responsible for Health and Safety supervision of that rather large swimming pool between here and Turkey?

Deniz1 wrote:Our board states there isnt a life guard so swim at your own risk but we do have life belts.

Sorry Deniz, just saw your post.

Yes, it is common practice - and sense - to warn of the dangers, to 'ban' diving, running, midnight parties, unsupervised minors, and every other risk that you can think of. For most sites (and, indeed, private pools) these things are presently unenforceable, and the pool operator hopes that as a defence, he can at least point to the board, and say "Well, we warned them!"

However, the pool operators (technically, the joint owners / site Committee, NOT the maintenance company, who are merely contractors) would appear to be responsible for implementing these new regulation (in the South), and would potentially be liable for any mishaps.

Good old EU....

Surely the rules concerning lifeguards etc should apply only to 'public' pools as opposed to private 'communal' pools, the difference being the former open to anyone and the latter only to those residents/owners/renters.

guru wrote:Surely the rules concerning lifeguards etc should apply only to 'public' pools as opposed to private 'communal' pools, the difference being the former open to anyone and the latter only to those residents/owners/renters.

Well, if you were to take a 'sensible' view of the situation - then yes, of course.

However, this thread is about the (proposed) new regulations in the South, as mentioned in post 1, with reference to this article in the 'Cyprus Property News'.

Also, the pool operator has a responsibility to Villa / Apartment owners, their guests and visitors, and even to 'uninvited' guests!

Property owners in the UK have been prosecuted or sued for damage because would-be burglars have fallen through unsafe roofs and hurt themselves - poor things!

The same could apply to a pool attached to a private villa, if adequate measures were not in place to stop children or anyone else 'wandering in'....

We are not talking about 'what should be', but pointing out to anyone who might be concerned, the potential pitfalls caused by new legislation in the South, and wondering if it might spread over here - God forbid

Your very good Keith in putting it all in a nutshell. Thanks for that.

Just one thing, in your Message 9 you stated OP, had a moment went I thought you were referring to "old person"

Dalartokat wrote:...I thought you were referring to "old person"

Heaven forfend!

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Yes fair point Keith. It would be absolutely crazy if this ever became law in the TRNC. Even in summer on some days/times we have been the only ones in our communal pool and sometimes no-one at all!! So let's employ a lifeguard full time to watch us!!! Crazy..... only in the south....hopefully

Totally agree with Keith. Like so much "elf and safety" nonsense of the EU, it is totally impracticable. Where are they going to find all these trained and experienced lifeguards in the South (let alone the North!) and who is going to to check their credentials.

As I read it , it means pools shared by more than one family: what about the small communities of 4 or 6 house (some swallows at that) who use the pool only a few hours a week?

As the article suggest, it will make "communal" pools nonviable, which will mean more people opting for their own, which will mean further strain on the already overstretched water resources of a drought ridden Island.

When will they ever learn?

Thinking about it makes some of the "laissez faire" (spelling!?) attitude of N. Cyprus easier to cope with!

It would make better sense to have some regulations about hand rails for steps into pools, and non slip surfaces ; the slipping hazard in some of the communal pools (private and hotel) is high. And about fencing off pools emptied for winter - I am sure they are more of a danger.

Ragged Robin wrote:... "laissez faire" (spelling!?)...

C'est Bon!

Çok mersi , KC, ...................I mean Merci beaucoup!

Do you have Public Liability insurance? Anyone renting property with a share pool would expect this.

Actually in the UK it is advisable, and in the case of hotels etc. mandatory, to have Public Liability if you own any property (even if you are the sole owner and occupier - potholed drives, slippery floors and mats , aggressive dogs etc ), and if you employ eg cleaners and gardeners , Employer's Liability as well. Again in the UK they come as part of the package with property insurance, or can be added as an extension. I am not sure how many companies here offer it, or if they do how reliable it is.

Of course it all comes at a price, and the cost of living here is already being driven up by expectations of UK/EU/USA perceptions and the "nanny society" syndrome

Of course of of the things that are difficult to get used to is the different attitude to risk. After all the years here, I still have horrors every time I see a man climbing onto a roof by way of one foot on the water tank and one hand on the drainpipe