What A Ridiculous Statement.

[Johnny Lee]

Welsh M.P. Huw Thomas as said that people who fly the England flag are Simpletons and Casual Racists and he is completely sick of it.

[TRNCVaughan]

What does he say about people who fly the Welsh flag?

[tomsteel]

Who is he, who gives a fig what he thinks and who cares what flag is flown?

[mikelapta]

We ın Northern Cyprus can only fly the TRNC flag,and Turkısh flag alongsıde....maybe we could have new rule ın Wales,fly the 'Draıg Goch'...Welsh dragon flag,and maybe Unıon Jack(flag) alongsıde.......
I lıved so many years ın Wales,maınly North and Mıd Wales and saw the gradual change to so many Englısh comıng to the country and tryıng to make ıt more 'Englısh'......so many dıscussıons,even arguments wıth these 'ımmıgrants'when they ask why we are speakıng Welsh ?Because ıt ıs OUR language !!!! CYMRU AM BYDD.
I have loved TRNC ıt's quaıntness,and tryıng to learn the language....Hey,let's have a Plaıd Cymru government,and all Englısh wantıng to lıve ın Wales should have to learn the language.

[Johnny Lee]

Blimey Mike never had you down as a cottage burner!!! I thought we were the United Kingdom. I adore Wales and as I have stated previously had the weather of been better and it had not been part of the UK I would have moved there.

I do not class Welsh people having the Welsh flag in England as wrong. However living in the Midlands, I did object to flags from virtually every other country in the , and stickers all over cars I Luv Jamaica etc. etc. sorry if you loved it that much then P--s off back there.

What this idiot as stated is total nonsense.

[mikelapta]

Relax Lee your cottage would have been safe wıth me !!!accordıng to my famıly and frıends who lıve ın Wales,bıggest ımmıgrants now are Polısh people !!!And,of course,all beıng gıven homes,and pınchıng all the jobs...I have heard on the M4 approach to Wales,as you enter Wales,not only sıgn 'Welcome to Wales'and 'Croeso y Gymru'...but also new sıgn ın Polısh.
....one lıttle story before I came to TRNC,was fıshıng for salmon ın the rıver near Dolgellau.A baılıff shouted ın Englısh 'you can't fısh there,ıt belongs to Macclesfıeld fıshıng club !!!!!The baılıff had a forced swım ın Welsh water !!!He threatened to go to Polıce,but 2 of my fellow poachers were the local constabulary....!!!!!Ah memorıes....and 2 salmon,4 seatrout to take home !!!!

[tomsteel]

I think you'll find Poles have been in Wales since WW2, having stayed there after serving the fight against Germany

[tomsteel]

I think you'll find Poles have been in Wales since WW2, having stayed there after serving the fight against Germany.

[kaiserphil]

I shouldn't worry too much. This is probably a bit of pre-election anti-UKIP propaganda, as ordered by one of the other Parties.

[Johnny Lee]

No it was actually posted on Twitter. Reported I think In The Telegraph.

Mike I adore Wales and I think it is wrong that a fishing club can own the river banks.Wherever they are from and fair comment them belonging to a town from another country , yes you would be understandably annoyed.

Remember the jokes. Come Home To A Real Fire, buy a home in Wales L.O.L.

[Kavenkoy]

No it was actually posted on Twitter. Reported I think In The Telegraph.

Mike I adore Wales and I think it is wrong that a fishing club can own the river banks.Wherever they are from and fair comment them belonging to a town from another country , yes you would be understandably annoyed.

Remember the jokes. Come Home To A Real Fire, buy a home in Wales L.O.L.

As a poacher I would say nobody owns the river or it's banks .
The river moves so do the fish ,so the river you bought has now moved down stream so it is no longer your river .

Wales and the north v south .
I have worked in both for 15 years ,regularly have to visit Cardiff,ponty,Bridgend,Carmarthen etc ...and also Bangor ,Caernarfon and Colwyn .....sadly the north are a strange bunch causing nothing but agro inside their own country .
The south more cosmopolitan and friendly .
Interesting if Wales had to pay it's own dole could they pay it from all that tax they don't pay ?or could they collect it from all that lamb they have ?or what about them free prescriptions .

Love NW myself as a kid like most spend every weekend there as we had a caravan .
My gran is from aberysworth so that makes half in half out also but them in the north are strange

Kav

[Marions]

Well I live d in the middle which I reckon was best surrounded by fields, sheep, Welsh people and more sheep. Hoffwni mynd yn ol I gymru, ! How I would love to go back, but 'does dim arian da fy'. So until I win the Lotto, I can't. But could I face all that rain again, again again, but I could always take refuge in the Uni at Lampeter or Aber and get educated .

As to the North their Welsh is completely different to the south, so it is another part of the north and south divide - but com e to thin k of it, London has one as well! So my mother taught me!

But I reckon Wales is another of those places of 'when in Rome do as the Romans so'. I did and loved every minute of my time there. Wouldn't have left, but life moved me on. It is wrong of foreigners to tryto change Wales just as it is wrong for foreigners to try and change TRNC> . Accept the place and the people and the culture and live within it, or leave. Easy relaly.

Oh and I knew one Pole there who had stayed on after WW2 but very few in Ceredigion!

[tomsteel]

Not even sure where Ceredigion is, but there were lots of Poles around Pontypridd after the War and they were readily accepted.

[Marions]

Ceredigion is mid Wales. Very few got up that far! The one I knew was a lovely guy and I found that the Welsh people accepted anyone who loved them and their ways - and this Pole wa s one of them!

pontypridd is of course much further south and less far too travel into the 'dark' middle of the country!!! Oh and there is only one Tom Jones as far as most people are concerned, ! Or as far as Pontypridd is concerned - maybe

[mikelapta]

My last wth some humour(I hope)....On a fly fıshıng course ın rural Wales(Trawsfynydd,Marıon)I met a Yorkshıre lady who owned racehorses.In the bar I told an antı_Welsh joke(we do make fun of ourselves)...ıt ended'twlch dyn pob saıs'.She asked what ıt meant.I replıed'Cheers and all the best'.....and she ınsısted I teach her thıs,as her vıcar was a Welsh speaker.....She learnt very quıckly..Would have loved to see hıs face when she saıd ıt !!!!! ........... ....................................

It means 'arse holes to the Englısh !!!'



Nos da.......Good nıght.

[Leither]

It always comes back to we are the United Kingdom,its true we are as long as everyone agrees what we say and what we(The English) want ,just look at the lies Cameron and company are throwing out at the moment,all the lies before the Scottish Referendom.
Never trust a politician,just look what they have done to the servicemens covenant,it no longer exists in real terms,come brothers shoot the bloody lot of them,ha! ha!

[Marions]

Might be kinder to say 'bums' , Mike. I was giggling before I read your translation - just trying to imagine the face of that poor Vicar who was to be on the receiving end.

She certainly got caught in by a line - but how many fish were?

I relaly would SO love to go back, but then fishing is not my scene and long walks through fields of mud doe snot inspire me now either.

But it is still 'hyfryd dros ben'./ (and that is NOT rude.

[mikelapta]

Marıon,I belıeve I am owed another shootıng !!!!As repentance I share my Welsh joke(and no naughty words).............After buıldıng the nuclear power statıon ın North Wales.the scouse workers went back to Lıverpool.A year later a few of the lads got together and decıded on a trıp back to Wales to see the power statıon and hopefully meet some of theır ex gırl frıends.They drove slowly through Blaenau Ffestınıog,and a scouser spotted an old gırl frıend pushıng a pram.They stopped the car,he recognısed Megan,and looked ın the pram.'Hı Megan,and I thınk that ıs my baby too'.....'Well'Megan saıd,'when I found out I was havıng a baby,there was a meetıng of my whole famıly.and ıt was agreed better to have a bast**d ın the famıly than an Englıshman !!!'


...........esp a scouser !!!!

[Owl Lady]

Watch it Mikelapta!!!!!!don't mess with Scousers xx

[mikelapta]

what you mean lıke,eh!! My fırst wıfe from Kırby,lasted 20 years and 4 great kıds.I had 5 years as bachelor,Scouse gırls are du gear,untıl they open theır mouths....you know what I mean lıke,errr?...Had great tımes esp Everton FC,Pınk Parrot,Blue Angel nıght clubs...loved all of Lıverpool,lıved ın Aıgberth,Walton...worked at Eng Electrıc..Netherton and East Lancs...accept me now?

[Kavenkoy]

Marion has said it accept wales for what it is and go with the flow .
That's why us English love it so much .


We also love the banter between welsh and English jibes ?..rugby ,lamb and rain .

Kav

[woodspeckie]

Living in Cheshire lovely for a drive out today to North Wales Conway RSPB Reserve first stop then Llanduddno and back through Betws-y-coed and Denbigh.

[wanderer]

I agree with Nigel for once
its supporters during a visit to Hartlepool in the north east of England.
He said: “The SNP are openly racist. The anti-English hostility and the kind of language that is used about and towards English people is totally extraordinary.”
I worked for Scottish companies since 1972 and had to spend 4 weeks solid on a course in Edinburgh in Ramsey Lodge Ramsey Lane Edinburgh (next to the castle on the mound)we were advised as English not to go out at night in less than threes because of anti English violence
There is a large amount of Scots who do hate the English but they are happy to have the English tourist pound

[Kavenkoy]

I agree with Nigel for once
its supporters during a visit to Hartlepool in the north east of England.
He said: “The SNP are openly racist. The anti-English hostility and the kind of language that is used about and towards English people is totally extraordinary.”
I worked for Scottish companies since 1972 and had to spend 4 weeks solid on a course in Edinburgh in Ramsey Lodge Ramsey Lane Edinburgh (next to the castle on the mound)we were advised as English not to go out at night in less than threes because of anti English violence
There is a large amount of Scots who do hate the English but they are happy to have the English tourist pound

That's ok because we hate them as well .
Glad they had the vote ,but next time alll vote and yes and #### ### lol

Who eats shortbreads anyway

[Leither]

Ref the above two posts and you wonder why there are so many people in Scotland,I would not say hate the English but say who the hell do they think they are,like the Americans who appointed themselves the worlds policemen,you ruled the world once and made a fine mess of things,thank you Westminster.

[Johnny Lee]

I grew up thinking we wee all united, But then whilst watching Euro cup or world in Greece on holiday, not sure one or the other, I was supporting Ireland and they got knocked out and they interviewed one of their fans after the game on TV and his comment was , all we need now is for England to be knocked out. NICE.

Then on a visit to the isle of Bute in Scotland, whilst waiting for the ferry, there was outing of children with their teacher the kids were aged about 8 years and one of them was tapping something on my rear bumper and the teacher said stop doing that and the child replied , Why they're only English.

On the same trip I was giving my Niece away at her wedding and I made a speech and happened to mention that we were still in the Euro Cup and Scotland had just been knocked out (just jovial) My God I thought I was going to get lynched.

I believe as a race we are quite hated, even in Cornwall and that's England.

But I think looking back in History we have caused it as a nation by thinking we had a right to own so many countries.

I will shut up now because I will be out of my depth.

[mikelapta]

Lee I thınk we agree we are a unıted but separated Uk...but we joın together when needed.Jock and Paddy are somethıng else !!!!Happy you Englısh joke about us makıng love to sheep........ıt's turnıng theır heads and kıssıng them I don't lıke.......grass smellıng teeth...ugh !!!

[Kavenkoy]

Ref the above two posts and you wonder why there are so many people in Scotland,I would not say hate the English but say who the hell do they think they are,like the Americans who appointed themselves the worlds policemen,you ruled the world once and made a fine mess of things,thank you Westminster.

I do t live in Westminster ,like many people.
Like many north of the border if I could bp vote away from Westminster I would .....but I can't .
Difference is the jocks created an anti English vote .
Fancy giving votes to 16 year olds just to make up the numbers .....then create a siege mentality and like a poison alex salmon goes through telling you all to vote anti england .......to busy he was creating anarchy he forgot to work on a business plan ....what if I was first president of Scotland what would I do ....ermm never mind I will ad lib that later .

When we ruled the world as the British empire that included Scotland

Kav

[Johnny Lee]

Yes Mike on your driving test can you make a U turn (Yew) No but I can make his bloody eyes water !

[Johnny Lee]

Sorry should have been Ewe. (local brandy affects spelling) .

[btkkt]

Just stumbled across this thread (sad that, innit?) and all I can say is: Eh, watch it there, lad - us scousers'll be after you!!

By the way "Johnny Lee" - I think you'll find that ewes tend to be a "she" rather than a "he"!!

[jamboree]

The U.K. Has become the way it is because of people like mr Thomas. Scared to say and do anything just in case we offend some one. He is full of bu11shxt and should worry about the greater picture. Also I don't like the use of uk it is Great Britain. It was the best in the world no other place like it, and MPs like him should be ashamed of them selves for talking such utter rubbish. It upsets me when I read news like this.

[Ragged Robin]

The English
(Flanders & Swan)

(Extract)

"The rottenest bits of these islands of ours
We've left in the hands of three unfriendly powers
Examine the Irishman, Welshman or Scot
You'll find he's a stinker as likely as not

The English the English the English are best
I wouldn't give tuppence for all of the rest

The Scotsman is mean as we're all well aware
He's boney and blotchy and covered with hair
He eats salty porridge, he works all the day
And hasn't got bishops to show him the way

The English the English the English are best
I wouldn't give tuppence for all of the rest

The Irishman now our contempt is beneath
He sleeps in his boots and he lies through his teeth
He blows up policemen or so I have heard
And blames it on Cromwell and William the Third

The English are moral the English are good
And clever and modest and misunderstood

The Welshman's dishonest, he cheats when he can
He's little and dark more like monkey than man
He works underground with a lamp on his hat
And sings far too loud, far too often and flat

The English the English the English are best
I wouldn't give tuppence for all of the rest

And crossing the channel one cannot say much........................................"

P.S. Home Rule for Yorkshire!!!!!

[HotHippo]

RR
GIRFUY!

[SpongeDiver]

I had a school cobber called Cadwallader - he told me that if you can persuade the sheep to stand with its hind legs in your gumboots, you can..... - Telling a Kiwi that is, to borrow an English expression, like 'teaching your grandmother to suck eggs', innit!