Property issue remains unresolved
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- Kibkommer
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Property issue remains unresolved
The Cyprus negotiations will not be completed by January 2016, President Akinci’s spokesman Baris Burcu has said.
What a farce?
What a farce?
- Keithcaley
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Re: Property issue remains unresolved
I don't think that anyone who has followed this 40 year old saga seriously expected that anything would be 'completed' by January next year.
However, all parties involved, including the UN, are reporting 'substantial progress'.
What on earth makes you describe it as a farce?
Do you know something that we don't?
However, all parties involved, including the UN, are reporting 'substantial progress'.
What on earth makes you describe it as a farce?
Do you know something that we don't?
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- Kibkommer
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Re: Property issue remains unresolved
President Akinci, speaking at a conference organised at the Kadir Has University in Istanbul last week, said that the ongoing Cyprus negotiations are aimed at reaching a comprehensive settlement to the Cyprus problem. The time for concentrated peace talks in Cyprus, where the parties to the solution should be locked up in a room and not allowed out until they reach an agreement, has come, he said.
He said only last week that it has come to a stage where they cannot keep prolonging the issues 'where the parties to the solution be locked up in a room and not allowed out until an agreement has been reached. Now they are saying that they will continue to have further meetings?
He said only last week that it has come to a stage where they cannot keep prolonging the issues 'where the parties to the solution be locked up in a room and not allowed out until an agreement has been reached. Now they are saying that they will continue to have further meetings?
- Keithcaley
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Would you expect a seasoned politician to walk away, and be the one labelled as responsible for the failure, simply because an end had not yet been reached?
He reportedly said that "...the parties to the solution should be locked up in a room and not allowed out..." - he didn't say that they would be, or that he would refuse to play if they weren't.
When you consider the pronouncements of either side, you would do well to consider the particular audience that they are addressing at the time - they say things that will appeal to the instincts of the listeners.
They are POLITICIANS !
If you take everything that is said at face value, you will end up even more confused
He reportedly said that "...the parties to the solution should be locked up in a room and not allowed out..." - he didn't say that they would be, or that he would refuse to play if they weren't.
When you consider the pronouncements of either side, you would do well to consider the particular audience that they are addressing at the time - they say things that will appeal to the instincts of the listeners.
They are POLITICIANS !
If you take everything that is said at face value, you will end up even more confused
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- Kibkommer
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Re: Property issue remains unresolved
Nothing both sides have announced gives me the slightest confidence that a solution will be found anytime soon.
Just can't see it happening.
Just can't see it happening.
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- Kibkommer
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Re: Property issue remains unresolved
Totally agree. They seem to agree on the minor points and avoid the real issues on which I believe they can never agree!
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- Kibkommer
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Re: Property issue remains unresolved
When water and oil will mix, there might be a solution?????? :
- Groucho
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When water and oil will mix, technically - it's an emulsion...Tojo wrote:When water and oil will mix, there might be a solution?????? :
I think it rather depends on what you call a solution and what you call peace.
Seemingly 40 years of peace is not peace - but by any international standards what has prevailed in Cyprus must be characterised as peace - this place has had more meaningful lasting peace than nearly everywhere on the planet. So to call them peace talks in a nonsense in my estimation. Political stability talks is what they really are...
A solution could be a formal twin federated state, i.e. not the wholesale remixing of the two communities envisaged by some as a 'solution'.
The polarised stance taken by some on both sides of the Cypriot spectrum does create a barrier that needs to be broken-down if a deal is to be struck. However, to replace peace with chaos would only serve to ruin what history ought to be able to look back on with pride... 'don't throw the baby out with the bath water' but do keep washing the baby...
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- Kibkommer
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I think the attitudes of the UN and the EU (looking after their own interests, not those of the residents of Cyprus) are appalling
I see it like a married couple separating. If there are "irreconcilable differences" and particularly if there is a history of violence by one party to another, it is the function of the Court, social services and friends and family to ensure a fair division of the assets of the couple and minimise damage to the children of the union, and give both parties the opportunity to make a new and individual life for themselves - NOT to force them to continue lliving together!
One might hope that time with a happy useful life and removal of the frictions, the wounds may heal and some form of mutually beneficial friendship develop, but they dont have to jump back in bed together.
I see it like a married couple separating. If there are "irreconcilable differences" and particularly if there is a history of violence by one party to another, it is the function of the Court, social services and friends and family to ensure a fair division of the assets of the couple and minimise damage to the children of the union, and give both parties the opportunity to make a new and individual life for themselves - NOT to force them to continue lliving together!
One might hope that time with a happy useful life and removal of the frictions, the wounds may heal and some form of mutually beneficial friendship develop, but they dont have to jump back in bed together.
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Re: Property issue remains unresolved
My feeling that is a global issue...and the importance of Turkey,our motherland,in the fight against İSİS.and bringing peace to the Middle East.The İsland of Cyprus is a stationery aırcraft carrier in a strategic part of the World.Hence Russia wanting to use a harbour or airfield(in an emergency..haha)in the Republic. American,British and other countries are using Turkey and Northern Cyprus....Put away thoughts of any settlement,including property issues until USA and Russia have a 'victory'in the Middle East.Also remember how Turkey has been a 'safe route'for refugees.Yes,it gets cash millions in aid,but has intimated Turkey is needed in Europe,and that will include TRNC.Yep EEC he we come...goodbye Lira,and the laid back life style.
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- Kibkommer
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Yes, Mike I am very much afraid you have hit the nail on the head. The strategic geographical location of the Island of Cyprus has always been one of its problems.