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Mr Cameron has resigned. The country is without clear leadership and direction.
Motions of no confidence in abundance.
The labour party are to have secret leadership ballot after half shadow cabinet set to resign.
Mr Farage set to install his ultra right wing agenda.
BNP gather political pace.
The UK is under threat of break up as Scotland and N Ireland seek departure.

Is UK politics indeed in turmoil?

I personally hope so this is the death of politics as we know it. The traditional party lines we need a merging of parties and ideals as I think do many other countries. You cannot have an unelected elite with so much power we have to be able to get rid of bad ones. Look at junker a failed politician of one of the smallest countries only famous for a radio station who was caught with his fingers in the till in charge of the eu. The only person in the 28 states who voted against him was Cameron and he was put in place by Merkel . We need change now.

terry2366 wrote:I personally hope so this is the death of politics as we know it. The traditional party lines we need a merging of parties and ideals as I think do many other countries. You cannot have an unelected elite with so much power we have to be able to get rid of bad ones. Look at junker a failed politician of one of the smallest countries only famous for a radio station who was caught with his fingers in the till in charge of the eu. The only person in the 28 states who voted against him was Cameron and he was put in place by Merkel . We need change now.

OK. Change is clearly on the cards. Who?
Given the total disarray and vacuum of power in the UK today.
Where will we be tomorrow morning when the markets open?

Brexit has shocked this country to its core.
Should the BREXIT camp now take the reigns and deliver the UK out of this mess?

waz-24-7 wrote:Mr Cameron has resigned. The country is without clear leadership and direction.
Motions of no confidence in abundance.
The labour party are to have secret leadership ballot after half shadow cabinet set to resign.
Mr Farage set to install his ultra right wing agenda.
BNP gather political pace.
The UK is under threat of break up as Scotland and N Ireland seek departure.

Is UK politics indeed in turmoil?

You just spent weeks telling us how all the political leaders, experts of all types want us to vote IN, surely you expect some fall out when majority disagree but 60 hours and counting we haven't declared war yet.
How exactly is Farage going install his right wing agenda with the number of UKIP MP's
Why have the BNP come on the scene in your posts has there been rallies around the country or is it still sombre where you are , has there been placard waving racist outside London Mayor residence?
Last news report I watched showed Boris ,Corbyn being heckled by disappointed IN voters !

Kerry,
These are all the political real facts and possibilities.
UK politics is in absolute melt down. I didn't predict or think such a catastrophe after BREXIT would happen.

I hold BREXIT responsible and I can see no evidence of any stepping up to sort out the mess. I did indeed predict this. No strategy or policy was ever evident from BREXIT camp. They have all gone very quiet.
Anyone who can gloss over the facts to pacify the clear turmoil is simply following their poor judgment upon their OUT vote.

The Markets tomorrow will certainly register this further self harm.
Independence day has already wreaked havoc and failure and loss is becoming very apparent.

waz-24-7 wrote:Mr Cameron has resigned. The country is without clear leadership and direction.
Motions of no confidence in abundance.
The labour party are to have secret leadership ballot after half shadow cabinet set to resign.
Mr Farage set to install his ultra right wing agenda.
BNP gather political pace.
The UK is under threat of break up as Scotland and N Ireland seek departure.

Is UK politics indeed in turmoil?

My advice to you is to stop taking the tablets, you are definitely paranoid or sniffing glue, come out from under the covers and get a grip.

Get the old "Raving Loony" party into power, after all 52% of the country would follow them anyway - lol.

It appears that posts are becoming rather empty in reasoned substance.
I welcome reasoned debate.
Waddo and topten. Do you have anything of substance to contribute please?

Waz

Need a hankie ??

It's been around 67 hours since Brexit won, it doesn't have to be rushed or go at the speed you wish it to go.

Start another new topic 'We're all Doomed'.

I am sure if you had to make a major life changing decision you would probably take more that 67 hours. Give them a chance eh ??

As you seem to KNOW how the markets are going to open tomorrow, how much of your life savings are you going to gamble ??

lee666 wrote:Waz

Need a hankie ??

It's been around 67 hours since Brexit won, it doesn't have to be rushed or go at the speed you wish it to go.

Start another new topic 'We're all Doomed'.

I am sure if you had to make a major life changing decision you would probably take more that 67 hours. Give them a chance eh ??

As you seem to KNOW how the markets are going to open tomorrow, how much of your life savings are you going to gamble ??

Lee,
Yes indeed I agree we must give things time to settle.
I have already said that it will take until Christmas to get a clearer view.

I do hope that we recover the losses to date and that the experts and myself are proved wrong.

I do not know how the markets will react but the markets will certainly react to turmoil and uncertainty

waz-24-7 wrote:Kerry,
These are all the political real facts and possibilities.
UK politics is in absolute melt down. I didn't predict or think such a catastrophe after BREXIT would happen.

I hold BREXIT responsible and I can see no evidence of any stepping up to sort out the mess. I did indeed predict this. No strategy or policy was ever evident from BREXIT camp. They have all gone very quiet.
Anyone who can gloss over the facts to pacify the clear turmoil is simply following their poor judgment upon their OUT vote.

The Markets tomorrow will certainly register this further self harm.
Independence day has already wreaked havoc and failure and loss is becoming very apparent.

Waz I feel your pain has a Labour supporter I once went to bed chuckling at Kinnock falling over on the beach and woke up to Maggie waving her hand bag get a grip.

Kerry
I think I too remember seeing that video clip.
I hope that indeed I do have a grip. Upon reality that is of course.
What is done is done and I certainly sense an air of regret in the UK today.
Not that it will change thing because we must all move forward and deal with life's challenges.

My concern now is for the UK as an entity and for the youngsters, children and grandchildren who have been sold down the river.

I have witnessed no air of regret or do I believe our children and grandchildren have been sold down the river.

I have no sympathy for any of the "so called" political elite. If they were more in touch with the public instead of nose down in the trough they would have seen this coming. Still at least we elected this lot and can throw them out unlike some others

davedee wrote:I have witnessed no air of regret or do I believe our children and grandchildren have been sold down the river.

Thank you for your view.
The news of anger from youngsters who have been surpassed by the vote of the non working and of pensioners is well documented. You are invited to google. Youngsters are far more willing to tolerate and integrate as opposed to the good old days and the take back control tickets.

The air in the UK is indeed subdued and some of regret also as the UK is under threat of break up. Sterling has crashed Markets have declined. Our PM has resigned. The labour leadership is under votes of no confidence. The ship has no captain.

The air is rife with the smell of regret and why?

This is my view.

Waz. Do you have a life beyond this forum? 18 posts today between 10am and 1 pm. Are you trying to break a record? 28 posts yesterday. You clearly have a crystal ball but only see what you want to see, don't think you are convincing many on here.

I personally think that it now gives us a better chance to do well in the future

woodspeckie wrote:Waz. Do you have a life beyond this forum? 18 posts today between 10am and 1 pm. Are you trying to break a record? 28 posts yesterday. You clearly have a crystal ball but only see what you want to see, don't think you are convincing many on here.

Wow, good numbers.
Enjoying the debate?
This is a debate is it not?
It appears the content from many has lowered to a level that sees fit to offer little real substance. Only non relevant banter I think.

Are you able to contribute? Have a view?
You are invited to contribute.

Is the UK in political turmoil? And indeed Why?

David wrote:I personally think that it now gives us a better chance to do well in the future

David,
Thank you for at least staying on topic.
Possibly correct and I do hope so.

Hot news....all my family and friends in the UK, some who voted remain and others who voted leave report no sombre mood in the UK.

They do report a country carrying on as normal, as is the British way.....oh and also a lot of rain!

We are exiting the EU, the mood is positive, excited, slightly worried....but confident.

The United Kingdom has shown leadership and given dare I say it a lot of other EU member states are watching us with envy.

Its a fantastic opportunity which I am confident we will grasp with open arms.

PoshinDevon wrote:Hot news....all my family and friends in the UK, some who voted remain and others who voted leave report no sombre mood in the UK.

They do report a country carrying on as normal, as is the British way.....oh and also a lot of rain!

We are exiting the EU, the mood is positive, excited, slightly worried....but confident.

The United Kingdom has shown leadership and given dare I say it a lot of other EU member states are watching us with envy.

Its a fantastic opportunity which I am confident we will grasp with open arms.

Posh
Very pleased to hear of the confidence that you report. Whilst I also remain worried I do hope we can get over the trauma and push on.
Sorry but our leadership has resigned and the labour party is also resigning on mass. I worry more about that right now.
BREXIT is the done deal but turmoil has replaced that with even more uncertainty.

The EU by enlarge will not, I think, be envious but sad as many of us are too. The business end of the EU will soon capitalise on the opportunities to compete for trade and business that the UK has exited from.

The EU In my opinion is running scared. The United Kingdom has shown the lead. Other member states are watching with interest.

I really do think more will question there membership.....who knows what will then happen.

PoshinDevon wrote:The EU In my opinion is running scared. The United Kingdom has shown the lead. Other member states are watching with interest.

I really do think more will question there membership.....who knows what will then happen.

The EU have certainly also had an economic hit also after the BREXIT outcome. I believe it would be better for the UK ONLY if the EU collapsed.
The UK would become more competitive against 27 stand alones than it will be against the single UNION.
It would NOT however be better for EUROPE in general. Security and peace are the most likely losses or risk of loss.

It is rather strange to focus on what the EU will do now. More important now is how the UK will stand alone and how the Europeans will behave towards the NEW British foreigner. I am fearful somewhat about freedoms of travel, Visa requirements, trade tariffs and general hindrance to our accustomed welcome in Europe including of course Southern Cyprus.