Kibkom North Cyprus Forum

Can you please explain why my post was moved so quickly to the pools section? I needed advise who would find it there? It was only on the main forum for 20 minutes. Surely it can stay on the main forum for longer than that? There have been posts on the main forum for days! Pets, restaurants, cars, all kinds of posts why dont they get removed?

Moderators will move any posts that are not in appropriate section. They try to do as much as they can in whatever time they have to be on the forum, hence, why some threads get moved before other misplaced threads.

Your threads does come under the Pools category so should rightly have been placed in that section. Members will still see your thread, as well as Pool companies that use the forum. Many users use the View Active Topics links or the View Unread Post link, so they will see your thread as it will be highlighted in their list.

Posting in the wrong section just make more work for me and my moderators. Please abide by the forum rules.

Rules to posting new threads on the forum
1) Does your thread fall into any specific category?
Yes - Do not post in the general forum and select category your thread applies to.
No - You may post on the General forum.

Soner,
Thank you for your comprehensive reply.

The question was in two parts, I actually asked was why are other posts still on the forum, I can see at least 12 that could be in a "section". For example help with electrical wiring, with respect there seems to be no consistency when moving posts, thank you.

Mollie the Cat, you were not being picked on, moderators may come on for a few minutes and do what they can, should they come across your post first then they would simply move it. The other threads will also be moved eventually, as you had mentioned other threads being in the wrong section, I was already going through the list and about to move them.

Soner,
Thank you.

Now I am stuck, because I do not know where to move the Electric Wiring thread..... ?????

Soner wrote:Now I am stuck, because I do not know where to move the Electric Wiring thread..... ?????

Exactly. Some posts are clear cut and obvious as to which section they should be in and others are not.

Hence the 2nd answer to the question - "No", until such time more categories are available.

You've got me working now.

Don't worry, your post will be read and you will get a response soon.

How about a DIY section, just a thought

Soner wrote:Now I am stuck, because I do not know where to move the Electric Wiring thread..... ?????

You can just leave my thread where it is!

It is ' of general interest' - to loonies like me, at any rate

So, tell me, what is the difference between, help with electrical wiring, and help with pool pump? Enlighten me please?

And, it was not your thread anyway!

Mollie the cat wrote:And, it was not your thread anyway!

Fair comment!

Actually, I'm not in favour of having separate sections at all, except as a help in 'searching'.

Putting all of the posts in one continuous stream, but simply adding a 'label' to aid filtering (much in the way that Gmail functions) would mean that everyone could see every post, just as you do by selecting 'View unread posts'.

It really is no great effort to xcan down the list and select those that look intersting, while ignoring the rest, then hit the 'Mark forums read' button...

Just my preference

I put in a post asking for recommendations for a Physiotherapist but it was moved quickly to the medical section. I did not get one reply and not many members even opened it to look. So really it is not much help if you need advice quickly. Saying this I look at the forum most days as it is really very informative and can appreciate Soners and the moderators hard work.

Keithcaley, I think that is the way we will be heading.

Mollie the Cat, FYI, did you know that instead of constantly going on the forum to check if anyone has responded to your post, you can click on the "Subscribe to Topic" link at very bottom of page? This will send you a notification when another member posts a reply.

You have already had a response.

Soner wrote:Keithcaley, I think that is the way we will be heading.

I never understood the logic of so many separate sections and then advising users to use a cross-table (SQL) query... for one thing, it makes the applications software work harder than it needs to, just to make it seem as though all items are in same section.

Items of lessening or no interest (or that do not attract further comment) 'age out' naturally.

Buying and selling maybe justify their own section - but I would ban BTTT by sellers unless they pay to advertise.

All the rest is discussion without a transaction being in the offing.

I see no reason to enforce the sections.... it only leads to the sort of thread we are having now...

Then users could choose 'Active Sales Topics' for Sales and Wanted if that's what floats their boats and everyone else could look at General Topics for everything else... which would by the ageing process be what is current.

There is one Huge problem as I see it with having NO sub-sections and that is when people clearly have most of the contents of their house for sale. You then have yards and yards of stuff that you are not in the least interested in. The same goes for anyone having a bad experience in a bar or café. Before you know where you are there pages of moans and groans. There has to be a happy medium somewhere.

No forum is perfect and will please everyone. Kibkom has been in existence for a good few years now and is slowly maturing with the membership growing.

The subject of having different sections to post a topic has come up a few times and suggestions and ideas are constantly being reviewed. As with many suggestions there are pros and cons. Inevitably any change made to the current format will not please everyone, but in the end in the grand scheme of things it's not such a big deal.

Now that Soner has more time to concentrate on this project we may see things change. Indeed one recent initiative is businesses can now have there own dedicated page on the forum. Just contact Jenna who will be happy to meet up and discuss: jenna@kibkom.com

The important thing is to keep using the forum as it clearly is very beneficial to many people.

sophie wrote:...There has to be a happy medium somewhere.

Margaret Rutherford in Blythe Spririt

I agree with foodie above. Maybe I am being lazy but I only look at the topics on the main page, I dont go "looking" at the specialised topics.

I thought the idea of the forum was to ask for or offer help between members? I have helped more than one person on here as many have helped me however, I only scan the main topics, if someone needs help as Foodie says above once it goes into that section invariably it does not get many views.

For me I always go onto the active topics page. As I am usually on the forum each day, this helps me keep track of new posts in all sections and also shows which topics are generating interest.

Also helps when moderating, especially those topics which are causing lively debate.

Keithcaley wrote:

sophie wrote:...There has to be a happy medium somewhere.

Margaret Rutherford in Blythe Spririt

This should have been put straight into the "jokes" section .. Me thinks ..

Don't temp me. Marjory in the latest KADS production is nutty enough for me!!

You see it is rather difficult for me as we all use the forum in a different way. I like jumping from one category to the other. Making any changes now would definitely upset many members.

Besides, the whole idea of purchasing a sticky/global is that you may post pretty much anything anywhere you like on the forum.

If you open Kibkom using...
View active topics
http://www.kibkomnorthcyprusforum.com/s ... ive_topics
Then save as a Favourite/Bookmark, you'll see it's still near the top

Or,
As I do....View unread topics, I just pick out what I want to read.... simple enough for a dinosaur like me.

Cally wrote:Or,
As I do....View unread posts, I just pick out what I want to read.... simple enough for a dinosaur like me.

A dinosaur with an echo?

An echosaurus

Related to a Doyouthinkhesaurus....?

Well,
Don't change it on my account - unless there's a majority that feel the same - I manage perfectly well by clicking on 'View unread posts' so that I see absolutely everything that's been posted since I last read everything, and I can pick and choose what I actually want to read.

Perhaps making the default view 'Read unread posts' would have the same effect - or at least encourage folks to use that facility, if it would help them.

I don't think that there is a 'one size fits all' solution, because we all have different ways of using the forum, but it does seem to me that some members are not aware of the different options...

I would suggest leaving all posts for 24 hours so everyone can see and respond before moving

I think Keith is probably correct. I am training myself to click on "Read all unread posts" that way I miss nothing on whatever thread it is and can very quickly move on if its something I have no interest whatsoever. Its actually quicker than trawling through yards and yards of "stuff"

What you have to bear in mind is that most regulars (except me!) know the system and how it works. It may be somewhat confusing for newcomers (and me),

I agree with niceone - leave posts for a specified time, but make it longer for urgent medical queries.

I also suggested some time ago (and thought it had been agreed that lost dogs would be left on the main forum for a few days because people who did not read the pets forum might still be prepared to keep their eyes open for a missing pet. But I expect that to bring howls of protest and not from the hounds!

It is clear from the posts so far that one size does not fit all with regards to how members use the forum.

There are a number of functions to help when using the forum and personally the "view unread posts" is probably very useful. It will bring up all the posts that you have not read, across all the different categories. Covers all areas plus if it doesn't interest scroll down. The "active posts" function is also good for keeping up to speed on topics that are receiving regular comments.

Moderators are not always on the forum 24/7 but when we are we do try to ensure topics are in the correct category - it does help some people who specifically want to know about a particular subject I.e looking to buy or sell a car, looking for information about Internet or tv suppliers, medical services , pets and animals etc.

The forum is like shoes - one size does not fit all.

But some shoes pinch more than others! And there is such a thing as compromise and without the intervention of Noel Coward, a happy medium.

I dont know how important Admin and Mods think first impressions are - but on Keith's advice (I do listen sometimes Keith!) Ialways go to View Active Posts. The impression always is that the Brit Expat community here spends at least 50% of its time buying and selling goods, cars and houses, Of the rest the main preoccupations are mending swimings pools(do they actually ever swim in them?), television reception and eating and drinking (British drinks and food(! With the odd break for moaning about the country they live in or immigrants in the UK

To me the main thing is getting the heading right: if you need help for instance please say what withso readers know whether or not it is somethiing they can help with, and, if they can, deal with your post first!

The forum is there for all members and really it's up to the members to post as they wish.

There are topics which attract debate, there are many others which are asking for advice, help or assistance. In every case it's what the forum is for.

Given the number of years that the forum has been operating, there have always been tweaks and improvements along the way. If a count of the topics or posts was carried out, it would of course show subjects or categories that were most popular. I am confident that whilst the forum owner looks to continually improve the forums look, feel, ease of use etc, the number of posts from members concerning changes or improvements to these areas is extremely low. One could conclude that the majority of members are; in the main happy, with how the forum operates.

Some suggestions can be easily implemented, others require much more time, effort and indeed money to make the change. The balance has got to be right, so inevitably some things just will not happen.

One size, like shoes does not fit or please all, never will.

Just a bit off topic but why do we not hear anything from the new moderators ?
Since there was a "revamp" of mods we only see Posh on here with the occasional post from Soner but nothing from the other 3 not even contributions to any threads.....why is that ?

One of my mods has taken some time off due to personal commitments, but will be back when he has caught up with his other work and has more time to help out. Not all mods will post on the forum, they are here to help check threads for problems and to move threads when necessary.

Posh: I think you will find that all the posts on this thread are meant in a spirit of corporation and helpfulness (if a slightly lighter spirit than some) . Seems to me that no one has insisted on changes, just made - in one case tentative - suggestions. Most Forums allow that faithful posters are essential to their success and welcome their input for consideration even if they cant implement it all.

It can be very difficult when one does not communicate face to face, and what is sometimes put in writing can be misinterpreted. I personally did not see anything wrong in any of PiD's posts, except an explanation as to how everyone may choose to use the forum.

The topic header is quite clear, I put my tuppence worth in & feel that if there has not been WW3 over the posts then imo it seems the majority of readers/posters are quite happy with things the way they are........If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

There has been far more heated discussions on other threads ....... seems this one is quite tame

I dont believe I mentioned anyone insisting that changes be made to the forum and of course all suggestions are more than welcome.

All I was trying to say/explain (Perphaps not very well) was that it will never be possible for a forum to meet the needs of everyone. Hence the one size does not fit all reference. If a change was made you could put money on someone posting querying the change and whether it was really necessary.

Some may not realise that some suggestions whilst made in good faith and may seem simple just cannot be implemented because of the amount of time and effort involved to make the changes, plus also there is that old chestnut - money. Some changes will incur a cost.

At the end of the day if it is deemed possible and sensible to make a change for the benefit of most of the members then I am sure the forum owner would look at the possibility of it being implemented. As I said in an earlier post, in the grand scheme of things this forum in the main runs well, meeting the requirements of the majority of members and that really is all that can be asked - it's may not be perfect but what is?