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Can you help? HOME FOUND!
Posted: Mon 14 Aug 2017 7:54 pm
by CairnO'mohr
Our neighbour's three year old dog (female) is about to be made homeless. Sadly, her owner died in the early hours of Sunday morning. Family members are here until Saturday. With the best will in the world, they cannot consider taking the dog back to the UK, it is just not possible. The dog is a happy, friendly little soul, who gets on well with other dogs and cats. She is a small Staffie cross, black with white chest. The photos I have won't load here, I will make further attempts on request via email. Any help with rehoming her would be most appreciated. Many thanks.
Re: Can you help?
Posted: Mon 14 Aug 2017 8:15 pm
by Toftsv
Firstly I would like to say R.I.P Ray,
I hope you find a forever home for his dog, as we have a staffie and advised him how to train her.
If I had the room I would but I have 3 already.
Please if anyone can help please do so.
With a sad heart,
Kind regards and I wish you luck.
Re: Can you help?
Posted: Mon 14 Aug 2017 9:01 pm
by Cally
I am sorry for the situation this poor innocent dog finds itself in & I do hope someone will open their home & heart......
Re: Can you help?
Posted: Tue 15 Aug 2017 7:55 am
by Keithcaley
...they cannot consider taking the dog back to the UK, it is just not possible...
Anything is possible,
given the desire to do it... & I have the solution!
They can arrange to have the dog looked after in Kennels while KAR make the arrangements to ship the dog back - I am sure that they would be happy that they were giving their late lamented relative's best friend a continued life in a loving environment, regardless of the cost.
Re: Can you help?
Posted: Tue 15 Aug 2017 8:02 am
by frontalman
I agree with Keith. Absolutely no way the dog can just be abandoned.
Re: Can you help?
Posted: Tue 15 Aug 2017 8:25 am
by CairnO'mohr
Thank you both for your comments regarding taking the dog back, this of course would be the ideal outcome. However, without posting too much information about the family, the cost is not the issue here, it is their working lives at home. It would be irresponsible to have a dog and shut it up in the house while you go to work for 8-12 hours. Do any of us consider what our families back in the UK would do with our pets if we were to die and leave a number of them? I know my family couldn't take mine either. It is a difficult situation, please don't think the poor dog is being regarded as just another item to be disposed of.
Re: Can you help?
Posted: Tue 15 Aug 2017 9:08 am
by woodspeckie
I did consider what would happen if a dog outlived me and I didn't get one, I had three previous dogs who were taken care of when we were on holiday for two weeks but no way could family give a long commitment. Now I just borrow next doors dog to walk while they are out at work.
Re: Can you help?
Posted: Tue 15 Aug 2017 9:12 am
by Loobyloo
There is such a thing as doggy day care and dog walkers in the UK so sorry but don't buy into the work thing. I think no dog no inheritance principle is good. Finding homes for unwanted dogs is getting more and more difficult as most people who care have more than they ideally want now. To think abandoning it is a possible answer is truly appalling
Re: Can you help?
Posted: Tue 15 Aug 2017 10:02 am
by ozankoys
When I was 20 (yes a very long time ago!) I worked with a guy whose wife bred beagles they had a bitch they no longer wanted & as I liked beagles he asked if I would like it. My reply was 'I cannot have a dog I am out at work all day' but he answered 'she will have a better life with you as now she is shut in a shed all day with no company at all'.
Needless to say I had the dog & she was a very challenging pet, not being house trained or used to going for walks at 4 years old!
There are so very many dogs here with very very sad lives, they would be in overjoyed to have owners who are out to work 8-10 hours a day
Re: Can you help?
Posted: Tue 15 Aug 2017 11:11 am
by topten
It's wrong to say these people are abandoning this dog, they probably don't like dogs and would never have one through choice , so to try and shame these people into taking this dog is wrong. Try and find it a home where it will be wanted and LOVED.
Re: Can you help?
Posted: Tue 15 Aug 2017 12:14 pm
by Keithcaley
topten wrote:It's wrong to say these people are abandoning this dog, they probably don't like dogs and would never have one through choice , so to try and shame these people into taking this dog is wrong...
I fully accept that they may not like dogs, they may (ALL!!) be allergic to dogs - BUT - that was not the reason given, was it?
What was stated was "they cannot consider taking the dog back to the UK, it is just not possible" and this, with the implicit threat that "Our neighbour's three year old dog (female) is about to be made
homeless." - In other words, they are not considering any other option but putting it out on the street, unless their kindly neighbour manages to pluck at our heartstrings, and someone does their job for them.
Surely they, as the heirs to his property, his assets, and his life, have a moral responsibility to provide a stable future for the animal, using whatever proceeds from the Estate of the deceased are necessary.
I didn't know the chap, but as an animal lover I am sure that he would turn in his grave if he were aware of how his relatives were intending to dispose of the 'Problem' of his companion...
'Just my opinion' of course...
p.s. being a 'cat person' by nature, I too, would never have considered or wanted to have a dog, and would never have had one through choice - I now have two dogs (as well as 4 cats ), not because I wanted them, but because they were in need. 'Not liking dogs', is not, in my book, a sufficient, moral excuse for refusing to accept responsibility...
Again, "Just my opinion"
Re: Can you help?
Posted: Tue 15 Aug 2017 1:38 pm
by Cally
Topten, I don't know where you live but I can assure you that litters of puppies are abandoned daily in N Cyprus with less than 1% being offered a home, as for older dogs............ I don't believe it is a case of shaming the relatives, but trying to point out how impossible it is to rehome a dog in N Cyprus. The only hope the dog has is to be rehomed in UK.
Re: Can you help?
Posted: Tue 15 Aug 2017 3:02 pm
by Sarikiz
I had a dog in the UK from eight weeks old until she passed away aged 12 years. I ran my own business but hired a wonderful dog walker who cared for my dog while I was at work.
There is no excuse to make this animal homeless. It should go back to the UK as part of the family.
Re: Can you help?
Posted: Tue 15 Aug 2017 4:00 pm
by frontalman
Keith has put my exact thoughts into words. I don't think I know the deceased, but I bet his main concern would be the dog.
Re: Can you help?
Posted: Tue 15 Aug 2017 5:43 pm
by silverfir
Cairn O'mohr is only the messenger and I guess will have to pass on your comments. Thanks to all the sympathetic posters who I feel understood the situation. To those of you who claimed the moral high ground, I hope you have briefed your families in the UK that when you die you want them to take ALL your animals back and look after them for life. Yeah sure
Re: Can you help?
Posted: Tue 15 Aug 2017 7:19 pm
by Gdrunk
Well why don't you take the poor homeless dog on then Keith??? Seeing as she is in such need of a home. His family are not trying to dispose of the so called problem but trying to find the little love a home.... they obviously have personal reasons as to why they cannot take her back, but not that it's for anyone to shoot them down over it without knowing the full facts. Ray was a friend of ours and loved the dog immensely and I'm sure his family will do what's best for her.
Re: Can you help?
Posted: Tue 15 Aug 2017 7:33 pm
by Keithcaley
Gdrunk wrote:... I'm sure his family will do what's best for her.
Not according to the first post of this thread, which stated that she was about to be made
homeless. If that statement was incorrect, then the situation may be somewhat different.
I've been banned from taking on any more animals (although I have managed to sneak in the odd one...) on the basis that by the time they're teenagers, they'll be pushing me around in a bathchair
Re: Can you help?
Posted: Tue 15 Aug 2017 9:44 pm
by Loobyloo
It's not the moral high ground believe me it's looking at the situation realistically, We currently have 9 rescue dogs all dumped/abandoned by some well I won't use the word that comes to mind. Would I have 9 dogs out of choice -no, could I have left any of them to their fate - no, what do these people think is going to happen to this dog if no one comes forward. Starve to death on the streets, hit by a car and left screaming in the road, or slow painful death from leish or something of the sort, sorry if reality offends. At worst any inheritance should be used to pay for kennels if all else fails
Re: Can you help?
Posted: Tue 15 Aug 2017 9:52 pm
by frontalman
silverfir wrote:Cairn O'mohr is only the messenger and I guess will have to pass on your comments. Thanks to all the sympathetic posters who I feel understood the situation. To those of you who claimed the moral high ground, I hope you have briefed your families in the UK that when you die you want them to take ALL your animals back and look after them for life. Yeah sure
It's not a question of moral high ground, it's responsibility and respect. I hope someone does volunteer to take the dog on. We've just adopted another dog that we didn't particularly want, but when faced with the options for the dog.......... Now our plans to travel at some point have been permanently shelved as our other dogs are old but this one is little more than a puppy. I don't need to brief my family, they would come over and look after the dogs if there was no other choice.
Re: Can you help?
Posted: Wed 16 Aug 2017 4:44 am
by cathywallen
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Re: Can you help?
Posted: Wed 16 Aug 2017 5:14 am
by ozankoys
Can anyone post a photo it might help?
Re: Can you help?
Posted: Wed 16 Aug 2017 7:34 am
by Keithcaley
ozankoys wrote:Can anyone post a photo it might help?
... or if they've got a photo & they can't post it on here, just email it to me
keithcaley@yahoo.com and I'll post it for you.
The photo can be as big as you like, I can adjust it as necessary.
Details of the dog such as people/ dog / cat friendly (or not!), Age, Breed (or a guess at the mixture), Medical issues etc. will help.
Re: Can you help?
Posted: Wed 16 Aug 2017 9:24 am
by Cally
Not sure how you do the "copy" bit but this was in first post......
The 3 yr old dog is a happy, friendly little soul, who gets on well with other dogs and cats. She is a small Staffie cross, black with white chest.
Re: Can you help?
Posted: Wed 16 Aug 2017 9:28 am
by Keithcaley
Just a photo needed then....
Re: Can you help?
Posted: Wed 16 Aug 2017 6:57 pm
by Keithcaley
...and here they are...
although if they come out on their sides, I've no idea why
Re: Can you help?
Posted: Wed 16 Aug 2017 7:22 pm
by Ragged Robin
No I am not offering to take her, According to this thread at my age and with no family to "inherit" her I am not allowed to own dogs anyway !
Anyway I have only just taken on another dog from a pound where she was bullied and badly bitten by the other dogs and is still a bit nervous so there is no way I could confront her (or my elderly arthritic spaniel for that matter) with a Staffie cross.
However if I was considering taking this one on I would want to know if she is neutered , chipped and registered and up to date with injections, worming and flea treatment. All these cost money which some of us find hare to afford. If not perhaps if, I repeat IF the family have inherited enough money perhaps they could offer to meet intiitial veterinary costs and, say, a years worth of dog food for anyone who adopted her. It would even so cost considerably less than transporting her to the UK AND be less disruptive for a dog that has already lost its master.
Re: Can you help?
Posted: Wed 16 Aug 2017 9:10 pm
by Gdrunk
FYI I attended Ray's funeral today & met with his son & daughter. For personal reasons they cannot take this beautiful dog back to England but are willing to pay any costs that are needed to keep her here in Cyprus. Vets fees, kennel costs, food costs, whatever it takes. They do not want to see her out on the streets by any means & can appreciate the situation here in Cyprus plus also how much this dog meant to their dad.
Re: Can you help?
Posted: Wed 16 Aug 2017 9:42 pm
by CairnO'mohr
Thank you Keith for posting the photos and to Ragged Robin and Gdrunk for your comments above. I know the dog is neutered, but regarding being chipped or registered I don't. I will contact Ray's daughter tomorrow for this information.
Re: Can you help?
Posted: Thu 17 Aug 2017 6:11 pm
by CairnO'mohr
'Tasha' has been microchipped and was registered in 2015. Annual registration has lapsed, as have her worming/flea treatments and vaccinations. This will be rectified tomorrow.
Re: Can you help?
Posted: Thu 17 Aug 2017 7:17 pm
by Ragged Robin
Well done! I hope this will encourage someone to take Tasha on as they have been saved so much expense and aggro over getting a dog from scratch.
Personally I think it is disgrace of the Brit. community that we do not do more to help when someone is too ill to look after their dogs or dies. We are after all an aging population and it fear of one's own death stopped one adopting far fewer dogs would be taken on . It is accepted now in America nd the UK that the company of a pet is of great benefit to many who have mental or physical health problems as well as the lonely and/or elderly. These people ccould give good homes to the strays if only we could give them a little help. I used to be a member of a group that tried to get some self help going in this respect but it faded from lack of support. Too many people saying "I'm all right Jack" and giving no thought for others who do not have their advantages!
Normally (given that the great disincentive of Vets fees is taken care of ) I could and would have offered Tasha board and lodging till she got a permanent home, but as explained above I am not exactly a spring chicken myself and am currently engaged in reconciling a nervous and insecure rescued stray with the existing two , perhaps understandably jealous, spoiled (canine) brats and I think a fourth could be more than I could handle without help.
Sorry to hijack this thread, and very best wishes to CO'm and good luck to Tasha. Please let us know progress on homing her.
Re: Can you help? HOME FOUND!
Posted: Sat 19 Aug 2017 3:31 pm
by CairnO'mohr
Thankfully Tasha has been found a new home. Ray's family have worked tirelessly for this result and considered all options, including a meeting with KAR with a view to rehoming her in the UK. However the happy ending is - after her vaccination update and a pedicure yesterday - she was handed over to her new owner this morning.
Thank you for your kind words Ragged Robin and to everyone who took the time to post their views/advice.
Re: Can you help? HOME FOUND!
Posted: Sat 19 Aug 2017 3:52 pm
by Keithcaley
Congratulations to you, the family and everyone else, I hope that the little dog enjoys a happy life with its new Family.
I apologise to all if my initial reaction was considered offensive, but the words 'homeless' and 'not possible' were the triggers - my failing, of course.
Re: Can you help? HOME FOUND!
Posted: Sat 19 Aug 2017 5:22 pm
by frontalman
Glad there's a happy end to this situation.
Re: Can you help? HOME FOUND!
Posted: Sat 19 Aug 2017 7:22 pm
by CairnO'mohr
Yes, so am I! No offence taken on my part anyway Keith. It was a difficult situation, there were other issues ongoing and I hardly knew Ray, let alone his family, so I wasn't in a position to post their rather upsetting circumstance on this public domain. They did their best for their father's wee dog, even making a return trip to the new owner's home with a much-loved toy which had been forgotten. Nice people.
Re: Can you help? HOME FOUND!
Posted: Sat 19 Aug 2017 8:12 pm
by Ragged Robin
How lovely to have a good piece of news! Many congratulations C'm on a successful outcome to your endeavours for this little (?) dog.
An object lesson for none jumping to a conclusions about other people's motives and circumstances, and that solutions can be found with understanding and compromise.
Best wishes and all happiness to Tasha and her new owners (or as most of us dog carers think of it, her new obedient subjects!)
Re: Can you help? HOME FOUND!
Posted: Mon 21 Aug 2017 3:47 pm
by Cally
One very, very lucky Tasha, couldn't have a better outcome. I hope she brings much joy to her new owner ....