Tube Terrorist Attack

[Art]

A few months ago Theresa May following 2 terrible terrorist attacks in the UK said.

"Enough is Enough"

So what has she and her government done?

Sweet FA

It's about time the UK adopted a zero tollerence policy as they do in Australia.

Just my view of course.

[turtle]

As I have said before...You reap what you sow..

[jackvern]

May has called another meeting of COBRA. AkA Committee of British Recycled Arsewipes.
Nothing will,happen as usual except for the usual platitudes. 5 attacks in one year? Are the British public expendable.
May always looks like a rabbit caught in the head lights she is certainly no leader.

[silverfir]

It's easy to blame and criticise the PM. How would some of you 'experts' handle the situation?

[ttoli]

It's easy to blame and criticise the PM. How would some of you 'experts' handle the situation?

No expert but surely deport all those on the watch list , (Including their immediate families ),those that have been convicted on terrorism charges before would be a start ,( though it is a balancing act , who is an immediate threat and who can provide info? ). They are laughing their socks off , attack western values but still claim their benefits / Housing etc !!

[Art]

Couldn't agree more.

Silverfir,

The first thing she should do is not "make promises she can't deliver."

Secondly she needs to reform some of the current human rights law which would impower the police to deport those on the high risk list.

Thirdly I would stop all these propaganda protest rallies which are becoming more common especially in London.These rallies are an absolute disgrace and are an affront to the British way of life.The police are powerless to prevent these Muslim extremists from publicly airing their views.

And finally ,What ever happened to her promise to shut down the social media/internet propaganda /machinery i,e Facebook and twitter where these vile peopl spread their poison.

To date she has achieved nothing.

[Groucho]

Art the police don't deport anybody... the Home Office do. "The police are powerless to prevent these Muslim extremists from publicly airing their views." No they are not. There are plenty of laws on the statute book that cover incitement.

The CPS and judiciary are as much to blame as anybody in this matter....

I'm all for throwing them out along with the Imams who seek to radicalise them but the so called judges (who it would seem - have no grasp on reality) won't do their jobs - they are all too afraid to offend lest their lovely nest egg should be disturbed....

My list of up against the wall come the revolution now reads....

Politicians
Estate agents
Lawyers
Judges
High ranking police who are members of the Masons

[Art]

Regardless of who does what and I'm sure you are better informed than me it's about time the Uk took the boxing gloves off with zero tolerance.

I recently witnessed a recent protest / march made by a group of radicals -I was absolutely appalled at the level of abuse thrown at the police who just stood there taking it.I'm sure they were instructed not to retaliate under any circumstances because it might upset the Muslim community who generally are law biding citizens .

[jofra]

In no way objecting to the calls for deportation - but as a matter of interest, if Samantha Lewthwaite were still in the UK, to where would you have her deported?

[jacob]

I would have her shot..

[Johnny Lee]

Execute them and deport them in a black bag. Why should the taxpayer keep paying out for this no good filth.

S.A.S on ou the streets , people being killed by invaders that we have invited into our country and we are in general paying benefits to. We must be the laughing stock of the world.

We need Farage and Trump with a bit of help from the Philippines president. About time we got our cotton wool politicians sorted.

[johnerebus]

Interesting but disappointing that most views here want to hang, shoot, kill by any means when we all know violence leads to violence don't we?

[tomsteel]

johnrebus, I value your view and in our democracy, your right to air it. If the majority view is against your consideration of this anathema being organised against western nations by Islamic radicals, pray do enlighten us with your take on a solution. What research evidence proves, "we all know violence leads to violence don't we?" I can quote from a serious tome, "an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth." I would be very interested to hear how you will prevent innocents being murdered on the streets.

[johnerebus]

Dear Tom Steel.
I have no idea how to prevent innocents being murdered on the streets. However yelling and screaming "Hang em, castrate em etc" will not prevent innocents being murdered now will it?

Seems it was once again the West (UK, US, etc) who began this debacle of hatred and murder of innocents abroad that has caused so much retaliation of murder and innocents on the streets. As it always was and always will be while I live I believe.
P.S. I do have a liking for non violence though and my three greatest warrior heroes were Mahatma Gandhi, Martin Luther King and Nelson Mandela. They all achieved great things through non - violence
People believe that so called religious fundamental / terrorist factions are the problem. But surly the problem is caused by Western Government policies for oil and territory? The religious fundamental / terrorist factions are only the symptom of the self propagated problem.

[tomsteel]

The Crusader v Saracen religious problem has been ongoing well before oil was an issue. Whether the 'hang, castrate em etc' view is valid or not, you, surely, have to offer an alternative view other than quoting three peace-loving historical activists who never faced Islamic radicals as ' my three greatest warrior heroes.' However, India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, South Africa and America still experience huge slaying problems and this after years of self rule from those leaders you quote.

[Ragged Robin]

On"a point of order" you do not "invite" "invaders": invaders are people who are specifically NOT invited. It is an oxymoron , that is a contradiction in terms .

On a point of history, surely the myth that the Crusaders (or at any rate most of them) were religious men, devoted to recovering Jerusalem and Constantinople for Christendom, has been exploded?: they (including the Knights Templar) were treasure seekers looking to increase their individual territory and wealth, and often at war with each other. Also capable of atrocities as bad as the Saracens'


Johnrebus said:

"People believe that so called religious fundamental / terrorist factions are the problem. But surly the problem is caused by Western Government policies for oil and territory? The religious fundamental / terrorist factions are only the symptom of the self propagated problem."

So right. Plus ca change plus ca meme chose (the more it changes the more it is the same thing)

[tomsteel]

How does this opinion advance the issue as to how to prevent Islamic fundamentalists slaughtering innocent civilians?

[jofra]

Unfortunately, when quoting "from a serious tome" - specifically the older, more basic, violent and vengeance-seeking half - the field is left open to quotes from the newer, "more-enlightened" and loving half referring to "turning the other cheek" and "Forgive them, for they know not what they do..."
Quotations (like statistics) can and are used and abused to "prove" just what the user wants to prove.
Death penalties (however barbaric or "civilised") are, I agree, 100% effective - but also almost equally effective in creating "martyrs", thus encouraging further fanatics - and this fact has been documented through history - consider this list of martyrs. Also consider all the other "martyrs" around the world and through history - political, revolutionary, industrial - some fanatic will claim the death/deportation/imprisonment as justification for their violence...
There's no simple solution - you can only hope for a reasoned, balanced response - not a knee-jerk reaction - accept the result and then try to improve.
Also, perhaps a similar question would be as to how to prevent "fundamentalists" slaughtering innocent Islamist civilians - the UN and thousands fleeing Myanmar would surely like to know....

[Ragged Robin]

How does this opinion advance the issue as to how to prevent Islamic fundamentalists slaughtering innocent civilians?

which opinion?

[erol]

How does this opinion advance the issue as to how to prevent Islamic fundamentalists slaughtering innocent civilians?

How did we prevent IRA terrorists from slaughtering innocent people ? I think we tried 'hang em high' but that was not what eventually brought an end to such atrocities, at least as I understand it. Tried a bit of hang em high in Cyprus too from what I recall before securing our sovereign bases and bailing out and also with somewhat dubious effect.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_t ... at_Britain

I personally have little doubt that had the UK's foreign policy been different over the last say 20 years then the number of terrorist incidents perpetrated in the UK would have been lower than it has been. That if we had not joined the adventures in Iraq and Afghanistan and other places then less innocents in the UK would have been killed or injured ?