Kibkom North Cyprus Forum

I didn't/don't read any of the "Polly" posts because frankly she bores me to tears. It has driven me away from NCFP. However, a friend pointed me at:-

http://northcyprusfreepress.com/north-c ... um-review/

Whatever the rights or wrongs of her being banned she clearly can't accept it and is using this alternative media to make snide comments about Kibcom. I know it's also about other forums, but strange it should immediately follow her departure from here.

wot, no comments.
Actually a 'B; is a good pass mark when I went to school. Not sure you should post a link to another site (!!!!) but in the cicumstances as it involves KibKom it might be a good idea for folk to have a look.
But whatever the mark (unasked for) what matters is that Kibkomers are happy, even if we are rated a Z . Marks and IQ tests and birth certificates are often best ignored - as it is the quality of the person or 'thing' that matters most and how it appeals to others.
Just consider the marks that Winston Churchill got at school and look what happened to him.

and again I say 'Wot - no comments?'

Clearly the mods have offended Polly and her cronies. Now NCFP carries 2 further articles attacking Kibcom:-

http://northcyprusfreepress.com/trnc-ki ... ee-speech/

http://northcyprusfreepress.com/trnc-ki ... g-to-join/

Having read the 2 NCFP articles was somewhat surprised to find someone being permanently banned from joining KibKom.

Marion, is there an appeals procedure ?.

Like JBA am not involved in any way with Polly Marples or NCFP just interested to know how many other would be members you have deemed unsuitable and likely to upset us happy KibKomers.

Mel,

Editing, deleting posts or banning anyone for a period of time or forever is always a difficult decision and not taken lightly.

Unfortunately there are always those who feel the need to belittle people or worse still trade insults or generally stir things up. These people are known to have an agenda which may seem innocent to start with often ends up with a few people trading insults for all to see. Once this happens the facts seem to slide away as emotions take over.

When this happens action needs to be taken before things get really out of hand. In addition internet web sites and forums are being monitored and there have been cases where site owners have been prosecuted for allowing slanderous or potentially libelous postings to appear on their site.

I can assure you that the recent permanent bans were carefully considered before action was taken. Those banned have opportunities via other outlets should they wish to continue to push the boundaries.

A search on this forum will reveal that it has received praise for the way it is run and most importantly people feel safe when they post. Thats the way it should be - if it remains this way then the forum will be around for many years to come.


Best Wishes

That, mel is not for me to answer, but Soner alone can answer that. The banning was made after consultation with all the Mods, and no doubt this will be posted on MCFP , so maybe it is best for soner to write to you privately and explain. the second 'banning' was actually a declined membership application. Again, write to Soner by p.m. and I am sure he will explain.

As to an appeal, I am not sure that anyone banned would want to appeal. Rejection digs deep in the souls of the recipients (well, it does in mine!) . and of course there are other fora which people can join.

anyway, contrary to popular belief, I am NOT an Adminstrator on this site, merely a Moderator - the only one who actually lets on that they are!

as I say, soner is boss and can best answer your questions off board.

Marion

After the events over the weekend I am sure that those who had posts locked and were eventually banned will know that I am also a moderator. More than happy to let people know that I am a moderator.

that is true, Posh in Devon. But come on reveal all - behind those 'shades' what is your REAL name??? Or will you remain for ever Posh of KibKom as well as of Devon!?

IMO people have been banned for being who they are not what they have done or said on this forum. After eight years of being around the forums of TRNC this is the first occasion I can remember this has happened. In that time I have followed posters who have made comments that most disagreed with but they were never banned.........well only occasionally. Many of them are still around and posting on the various Cyprus forums, maybe under revised names but still here and fighting their corner.

It is unfortunate that people with a specific point of view are dismissed because there are always at least TWO sides to every discussion. You cannot operate a forum that only accepts ONE point of view even if the opposite may be anathama to you. If you do then you potentially leave yourself open to attack and ridicule.

Yes I know quite well many of those you wish to isolate - pollymarple, Malcolm Channing, Nigel Watson (in his many guises) Pt Pike, and several others so will you ban me by association? Soner et al you need to consider what the aims are of this forum, if you want an exclusive club then you will have to apply very severe membership checks and consider taking the forum out of public view. However if you continue to arbitarily ban people then you will have to accept ridicule from other forums.

When I realised that "Posh" was a moderator I was actually quite pleased, because I have enjoyed his posts, and he comes over as a sensible and well balanced. (No, dont want to borrow money , Posh! ). But I do think we should be told who Mods and Admin are BY THEIR BOARD NAMES, so we are not taken aback when a Thread is closed etc. by someone we thought was an "ordinary" member - although most Kibkomers are far from ordinary. Otherwise it does smack a little of "big brother is watching you"!

Board names should be enough, however. I appreciate that they may want to withold their true identities (as I do) because while the members can be restricted, the people READING presumably cant, this is a small community and there are wild animals of the two legged variety in them , thar, woods!

I was always amazed at the people on you know where who posted "Can someone take my to the airport next week because I am going away for a month,, and by the way what is the best kennel for my dogs. I live at .........................". Everything short of "the key is under a plant pot on the back porch" for the modern burglar.

#re message 9. I cant comment on individual cases because I dont follow them or know the indivuals. However, different opinions, discussion and even strong arguments are one thing - using a public forum to vent one's spite or just enjoy a taste for mischief is another thing. I -eventually - stopped posting on Cyprus44 partly because as said above anyone can read these things, and I did not want to be connected - even by association, with some of the things that went on there. Also some people sounded so vindictive that I became afraid when my real identity was leaked that I (or my hostages to fortune) might actually suffer physical harm.

I feel sorry for some people who have obviously suffered wrongs - but attacks on everyone one in sight does more harm than good for their (and others') case. But my sympathy was somewhat muted when I read more in one case, and realised that it was less a sense of grievance than the "oxygen of publicity" that motivated the individual in question.

Since the start of the forum I have banned only 4 people, 2 of them were banned after 5 months of joining, I had been hoping that I would not have to but had no choice in the end. The other two were over the weekend, one was after just a couple of days, and btw reasons she has been giving are totally untrue, a clear explanation was given her. Malcolm of NCFP was NOT BANNED as he never had joined but was refused membership for reasons I felt was in the best interest on my Forum. He had every opportunity to join from start back in March. Why has there been a sudden interest? Possibly to defend the other person, or maybe realised that he could gain some REAL traffic to his website through Kibkom.

For the record Kibkom is not a debating society, but a place for people to ask questions, give and get information and swop tales in a friendly manner. if you want firm opinions, filthy replies, bad language, personal attacks, then there are other places to get them. I left the link active for you to see for yourselves.

thanks soner. Hope there is now a bit more understanding.

PoshinDevon, thankyou for your comprehensive reply and fully concur.

I feel one of the reasons this is such a popular forum is that it accomodates a range of wide and diverse opinions based on the subject thread.

Soner- Do feel having firm opinions (bolshie at times is what my husband calls me ) is necessarily in the same catagory as filthy replies, bad language and personal attacks.

Rambling rose re message 11

I really could not have put it better myself.

That's why we must all make sure Kibkom remains the friendly forum that it is.

Mel did you have a 'not' missing in your statement? If so, I agree but some firm opinions are O.K, it is when the firm opinions attack others than they are not so acceptable. I have firm opinions too, but hope that by expressing them I don't have to run down others. But maybe you did not mean to have the word 'not' in your sentence.

Marions - the sentence stands.

I have never expressed opinions that denegrate people personally, theres not hoping about it I just dont do it. For me a firm opinion refers to a topic not a personality.

I appreciate moderators have to deal with members of a different ethos.