Flights to larnaca after brexit

[frugal90]

Going to book flights for next april/may. What are thoughts about backwards and forwards across the green line after brexit? What a mess all this brexit stuff?

[MoonageDaydream]

If there is a deal between the UK and the EU then the existing travel arrangements should continue (even if only during the 21 month transitional period).
If there is a 'no deal crash out Brexit', then you will probably have bigger worries than this anyway (like whether the flights will run properly at all).
I would say book and hope for the best.......

[jofra]

I would think that flights would continue without any effect whatsoever - flights between EU countries and flights between non-EU and EU countries (around the world) are happening every day and have done so since the EU came into being. This is not going to change simply because it is profitable.
What may change is what documentation may be required, which also may apply to the "crossing the green line" - hopefully, at most, it will see the reintroduction of the "paper visa" submission at the crossing point which use to apply....

[kerry 6138]

paper visas wont help if youve got a residency stamp in your passport, they have turned round 3rd country nationals who were coming north.

[Mimosanow]

My understanding is that the EU made the opening of the border to all of Its citizens a condition for membership. So if we Brits are no longer EU citizens the TCs are going to jump at the chance of making our lives difficult at the border.
If that does happen, Ercan fares will become even more ridiculous.

[Mimosanow]

Sorry, meant GCs, not TCs

[Mimosanow]

Sorry, meant GCs, not TCs

[Keithcaley]

Once you are actually in South Cyprus (ROC) there would be no problem crossing the Green Line, as the GC's do not make any checks on leaving ROC via the crossing point at Metehan.

As mentioned, the difficulty would arise at Passport control at the ROC airport - they may well want to see evidence that you have booked accommodation in the ROC, particularly if they see a 'Residency' (Visitor Status) page in your passport.

'Swallows' and other holidaymakers might be subject to less scrutiny than us 'Residents', but time will tell...

[Maisiemoo]

Have been wondering about this myself. It really is so much easier to come via Larnaca for us and I dread the thought of transiting via Istanbul because of the need to use special assistance. 'They' are really making a mess of Brexit but I suspect it's part of a cunning plan!

[waddo]

I have been beating this particular drum for many months now and remain totally "unsurprised" that only now people who fly via Larnaca/Paphos are beginning to ask questions! The point is that at this time nobody knows what will happen, nobody even knows if Brexit will happen or that if it does happen what form it will take, so any suggestion is a total guess. So, look at the problem in a different way and then make your our decision on what to do.

I have no doubt in my mind that the GC, do now and always will, put obstacles in the way of any Nationality that wants to cross from South to North and spend money in the North. I also have no doubt that the GC will jump at any chance of causing distress and confusion amongst any non-EU citizen who has the temerity to use the GC airports to gain access to Cyprus and then to attempt to stay in the North. I honestly believe that the old issue of Kocans will become their chosen method of causing trouble! Whilst anyone with a Kocan on a property or newly built piece of land previously (Pre 74) owned by Turkish Cypriots will be acknowledged as being legal! However, any other Kocan based on previously (Pre or Post 74) owned GC property or land will be waved around with glee as being illegal. In the end it will always come down to publicity and money for the GC side and they are very good at publicity and spreading fear.

The question of what will happen to the flights is totally different, it is a bit of a maze at the moment as all flight routes/times are booked well in advance and each given it's own slot. However, when/if the UK leaves the EU under a No Deal arrangement or under an arrangement that does not include continued use of EU flight routes then a larger problem will ensue. All flight slots worldwide are fought over every year, they are probably more precious than Gold! If the UK loses its slots - due to no longer being and EU country - then it will have to bid for each and every slot that it makes vacant, along with every other airline in the World! The airlines themselves have been warning about this for months now but with the typical British superior outlook on life most people have just said "It won't happen to us because we are British", I fear there is about to be a rude awakening for lots of travellers.

If I lived in the UK - which I am happy to say I do not - then my future plans would hinge on flying into Ercan only, until all the dust has settled, only then could I maintain a surety that I would get here and go back again without fear of being turned away by the TC immigration at entry point. I do understand that the cost will be higher and the journey longer - as it always used to be - but I would rather an increased flight cost/duration than a total loss of my holiday and cost of flight because some GC made the decision that I could not enter the South. Remembering that there would be no loss of finance to the South if you booked and paid for your flight but then could not continue to the North, so the South would still be the financial winner regardless. All points to ponder on but sadly no real answers yet for anyone.

[Hedge-fund]

Going to book flights for next april/may. What are thoughts about backwards and forwards across the green line after brexit? What a mess all this brexit stuff?

My thoughts are that nothing will change. Brexit is not a mess per se - the interpretation of it by remainer politicians is what is making it (deliberately messy)

UK citizens visiting the ROC will be treated just as they are now - as will ROC citizens when visiting the UK. I've already booked for next May & June.

Hopefully there will be no need for a green line by then anyway.

[waddo]

Going to book flights for next april/may. What are thoughts about backwards and forwards across the green line after brexit? What a mess all this brexit stuff?

UK citizens visiting the ROC will be treated just as they are now - as will ROC citizens when visiting the UK. I've already booked for next May & June.

Hopefully there will be no need for a green line by then anyway.

That goes without saying and I am in total agreement with you. The problem will arise and that is not a "maybe", once UK citizens become finally non-EU citizens and they are going to travel to the North. It is a "will" because the RoC can and will make publicity out of it to further complain about the "Occupied Territories"!

I really hope that you are correct about the green line - it can not come quick enough!

[erol]

Brexit is not a mess per se - the interpretation of it by remainer politicians is what is making it (deliberately messy)

lol

[kerry 6138]

http://www.kibkomnorthcyprusforum.com/v ... ek#p211890

see message one has reminder of the GC immigration attitude

[gillken]

There was no problems before Cyprus joined the EU!!!

[waddo]

gillken - there was no problem before the Republic of Cyprus joined the EU - lol.

[niceone]

There was no problems before Cyprus joined the EU!!!

There were problems actually, If you had TRNC stamps on your passport, people were arrested and charged with arriving illegally
We have been visiting way before the ROC joined the EU and never travelled to the South because of what happened to so many Brits.
After Brexit forget travelling to the south

[sophie]

I will miss my bi annual spend out trip to Debenhams though!!

[Mowgli597]

I will miss my bi annual spend out trip to Debenhams though!!

Retail therapy, Her Indoors calls it!
At least it’ll save my wallet

[gillken]

Some folk seem to like living in the past
Move on...look around...visit the crossing points the supermarkets and petrol stations near the crossing points are full of GC filling up their petrol tanks and car boots.....
Look around at the buildings that have fallen derelict since 74 now being confidently renovated both sides of Cyprus.
People moving forward....its only gossip mongers trying to bring doom and gloom who upset the positive thinkers.
I cant believe how folk who know very little seem to have all the negative answers

[Keithcaley]

Some folk seem to like living in the past
Move on...look around...visit the crossing points the supermarkets and petrol stations near the crossing points are full of GC filling up their petrol tanks and car boots.....
Look around at the buildings that have fallen derelict since 74 now being confidently renovated both sides of Cyprus.
People moving forward....its only gossip mongers trying to bring doom and gloom who upset the positive thinkers.
I cant believe how folk who know very little seem to have all the negative answers

I'd be very interested to read your thoughts on how the GC's will treat Ex-Pats from the North after Brexit, and why... - we could do with some good news!

[Hedge-fund]

Some folk seem to like living in the past
Move on...look around...visit the crossing points the supermarkets and petrol stations near the crossing points are full of GC filling up their petrol tanks and car boots.....
Look around at the buildings that have fallen derelict since 74 now being confidently renovated both sides of Cyprus.
People moving forward....its only gossip mongers trying to bring doom and gloom who upset the positive thinkers.
I cant believe how folk who know very little seem to have all the negative answers

Well said Sir (or Madam)

[waz-24-7]

The change in status for UK citizens post BREXIT has been discussed at length in many posts.
The increased level of difficulty in entering the TRNC is just one of many changes that will present themselves.

The loss of European citizenship spells isolation and alien status.
It will take some years for the loss to become fully apparent.
In summary however it is safe to say that a UK passport holder will become more vulnerable and exposed to politically motivate antagonism.

All for what?
Strange how those BREXIT advocates have fell somewhat silent. Perhaps the coffee is smelling real as next April looms.

[woodspeckie]

Waz-24-7 is like a genie in a lamp mention the word Brexit and he appears.

[waz-24-7]

Waz-24-7 is like a genie in a lamp mention the word Brexit and he appears.

Indeed.
Such a critical change for the UK and Europe,the future prospects and the clear disillusionment within the UK warrants serious attention.

It is clear that many on this forum and living in TRNC. Possibly your good self , have seriously under estimated the effect of relinquishing your European passport.

[Mr Chinnery]

Well, folks will just have to use Ercan as was the case pre 2004 ish.

[waz-24-7]

Well, folks will just have to use Ercan as was the case pre 2004 ish.

Probably correct.
Expect price increases then as services to Cyprus for UK passport holders become more limited.

Great to move backwards as others move forward.
Any benefit at all if you reside in or visit TRNC?

[EnjoyingTheSun]

Expect price increases then as services to Cyprus for UK passport holders become more limited.

No it was great joining the EU we in Britain could now travel to Europe.
Oh hang on we always could!
Thing with price increases is the joy of competition means that someone comes along and cuts prices.
Capitalism like democracy isn't without fault but it's the best system there is.

[waz-24-7]

Expect price increases then as services to Cyprus for UK passport holders become more limited.

No it was great joining the EU we in Britain could now travel to Europe.
Oh hang on we always could!
Thing with price increases is the joy of competition means that someone comes along and cuts prices.
Capitalism like democracy isn't without fault but it's the best system there is.

To be precise when in the EU and as EU passport holders. Travel into Europe was made more easy.
Freedom of movement and a convergence of bureaucracy has awarded UK citizens and businesses distinct advantage over aliens wishing to enter , travel and trade within Europe freely.

With regard to flights via Istanbul to TRNC.
It is likely that this will be the main route of entry for UK citizens. Supply and demand will drive prices upwards given the few suppliers of service. I do not think any airlines will look at this route as one they would choose to invest in and of course embargo will prevent same. The whole entry and access to TRNC will be harder, more time consuming and certainly more expensive for UK citizens. Europeans will presumably continue to use other European based routes without hindrance. It is these routes that competition will provide cost benefits to travelers.

[erol]

No it was great joining the EU we in Britain could now travel to Europe.
Oh hang on we always could!

However before the Republic of Cyprus joined the EU, crossing the green line in Cyprus as a non Cypriot was not so easy.

[Mr Chinnery]

Waz,
Entering the TRNC will not be any more difficult than it was before 2004.
If you use Ercan now it’s no different than pre 2004 other than the Airport is a nicer experience.

Yes it might be a little more expensive, not always I might add.
But keeping prices higher and making somewhere more difficult to get too is in my mind no bad thing, because then the visitors that do arrive will have more money to put into the economy.
I would much rather the TRNC be like the above than it turn into some tacky resort.
Before 2004 I don’t ever recall seeing people walking round a supermarket in bare feet, or men doing the shopping with no shirt on, or more disgustingly sitting in a cafe eating with no shirt on and some women walking the streets as if they are looking for business.
So if visiting the TRNC keeps a certain type of person out because it’s more expensive to get to then fine by me.

[waddo]

Mr Chinnery - Well said! In total agreement with you.

[EnjoyingTheSun]

To be precise when in the EU and as EU passport holders. Travel into Europe was made more easy.
Freedom of movement and a convergence of bureaucracy has awarded UK citizens and businesses distinct advantage over aliens wishing to enter , travel and trade within Europe freely.

With regard to flights via Istanbul to TRNC.
It is likely that this will be the main route of entry for UK citizens. Supply and demand will drive prices upwards given the few suppliers of service. I do not think any airlines will look at this route as one they would choose to invest in and of course embargo will prevent same. The whole entry and access to TRNC will be harder, more time consuming and certainly more expensive for UK citizens. Europeans will presumably continue to use other European based routes without hindrance. It is these routes that competition will provide cost benefits to travelers.

I've never even by the most committed Europhile seen them have the nerve to promote the EU as a shining light at reducing bureaucracy.

Not been there for a while but is entering America still a matter of filling in a little form while on the plane for your visa? Five minutes tops? The EU liable to make it harder than that to punish the UK, you think?

As for the economic guesswork, I'll put it in my tray with the Milenium Bug warning, the not joining the Euro warning, and the Al Gore warning of 2006 that the world is going to end in ten years if we don't do anything about global warning sorry climate change.

[EnjoyingTheSun]

No it was great joining the EU we in Britain could now travel to Europe.
Oh hang on we always could!

However before the Republic of Cyprus joined the EU, crossing the green line in Cyprus as a non Cypriot was not so easy.

So I assume that Israelis and Russians cant cross the green line or struggle to do so?

[Mowgli597]

So I assume that Israelis and Russians cant cross the green line or struggle to do so?

Some Israelis certainly can’t https://www.trtworld.com/europe/greek-cypriot-authorities-deport-39-israeli-tourists-12545

[EnjoyingTheSun]

So I assume that Israelis and Russians cant cross the green line or struggle to do so?

Some Israelis certainly can’t https://www.trtworld.com/europe/greek-cypriot-authorities-deport-39-israeli-tourists-12545

Not that many out of 262,000 Israels visiting ROC so I'm guessing the other tens of thousands who crossed the border were a little more evasive.

You used to get asked inane questions visiting America, my favourite being;

'Did you seek to enter the United States to engage in export control violations, subversive or terrorist activities, or any other unlawful purpose? Are you a member or representative of a terrorist organization as currently designated by the U.S. Secretary of State? Have you ever participated in persecutions directed by the Nazi government or Germany; or have you ever participated in genocide?'


Generally replying 'sole purpose for visit' or 'when you say genocide, give me a number' wouldn't be well received either I'd imagine.

[erol]

So I assume that Israelis and Russians cant cross the green line or struggle to do so?

My point was that the free movement of just about everyone other than Cypriots over the green line , from the RoC side perspective, is the result of the RoC joining the EU and accepting loss of their absolute sovereignty with regards to this crossing point in Cyprus. The pressure to open the boarder was from a ECHR (not an EU body) ruling on a case brought by a TC against Turkey but the pressure on the RoC to accept crossing of anyone , with visa if necessary, and regardless of how that person had 'entered' Cyprus originally was down to the EU and it's principals of freedom of movement. I am not saying that Brexit changes this historic reality just making the point that it was in effect the EU and the RoC's membership of it that opened up the green line for non Cypriots.

The RoC can not unilaterally define and decide who can cross the green line. Not EU citizens or non EU citizens. That is defined by treaty between the EU and the RoC. However they can unilaterally control if they will let non EU citizens enter the RoC at all if they suspect they might subsequently cross the green line and stay in the North. As Mowgli pointed out they have done this to non EU people who have arrived at Larnaca, all be it in small numbers to date. British citizens will move from the category that the RoC can not stop from entering the RoC at all to a category that they could if they suspect the person will visit or lives in the North. As to if they will stop such post Brexit and in what numbers that all remains to be seen but it is just a fact they they could post Brexit and can not pre it.

[erol]

You used to get asked inane questions visiting America, my favourite being;

At the risk of going off topic the reason for such inane questions (and you get such on all sorts of forms), as I understand it, is that the burden of proof for lying on such a form is much lower than the burden of proof for things like terrorism. Thus if they get people to say they are not terrorist on the form but can not find sufficient evidence to prosecute them for terrorism itself they may well be able to successfully prosecute them for lying on the form.

[tingtang]

However before the Republic of Cyprus joined the EU, crossing the green line in Cyprus as a non Cypriot was not so easy.
erol.

I think that you may be a little confused here erol.
Pre 2004 only special categories of Greek Cypriots were allowed to cross the borders. As a British Passport holder living in the South pre 2004 I certainly never encountered any type of problem crossing to the North.

tt.

[PoshinDevon]

If people love North Cyprus as we do then they will adapt to whatever rules or regulations that may be in place. That applies to those permanent residents who may only leave the island every so often, those who are swallows.....like us or those coming for a few weeks holiday.

Cannot get concerned about it to be honest. We have flown into Larnaca and Ercan depending on flight availability, timings and cost. If Ercan is the only option, so be it......if it costs more then fine.......it’s not going to stop us coming over.

The same goes for crossing over to the south. Personally I think the GC authorities would be foolish to stop U.K. nationals crossing and I don’t think it will happen but if it did, no problem as they say.

As for those jumping in and making the old comment about those who supported Brexit are just becoming wise to this......rubbish. Just another low powered version of project fear.

[PoshinDevon]

However before the Republic of Cyprus joined the EU, crossing the green line in Cyprus as a non Cypriot was not so easy.
erol.

I think that you may be a little confused here erol.
Pre 2004 only special categories of Greek Cypriots were allowed to cross the borders. As a British Passport holder living in the South pre 2004 I certainly never encountered any type of problem crossing to the North.

tt.

One of the great advantages of serving in the military when in Cyprus was the opportunity to cross over and spend time in the north. Applications had to be submitted about 6 weeks in advance and only approved a day or so before the planned visit. Initially we could only stay a day having to make a mad dash for the Ledra Palace crossing or the crossing at Black Night (Ayios Nikolaos) to be back before midnight.......bit like Cinderella! This was in the early 80s. Then stays up to 3 days were allowed.........pure joy. On our second time on island in the early 90s we were crossing every month. The love affair just grew from there.

Slightly off topic but we were determined to see all that the TRNC had to offer. Happy Days and this sowed the seed for future visits and eventually purchasing a property.

[waz-24-7]

Waz,
Entering the TRNC will not be any more difficult than it was before 2004.
If you use Ercan now it’s no different than pre 2004 other than the Airport is a nicer experience.

Yes it might be a little more expensive, not always I might add.
But keeping prices higher and making somewhere more difficult to get too is in my mind no bad thing, because then the visitors that do arrive will have more money to put into the economy.
I would much rather the TRNC be like the above than it turn into some tacky resort.
Before 2004 I don’t ever recall seeing people walking round a supermarket in bare feet, or men doing the shopping with no shirt on, or more disgustingly sitting in a cafe eating with no shirt on and some women walking the streets as if they are looking for business.
So if visiting the TRNC keeps a certain type of person out because it’s more expensive to get to then fine by me.

In response
I think it more wise to look at more modern scenarios rather than historical protocol from years gone by. (2004)
I fear that you may, like others harp back to the colonial days and the great British Empire.
I do not think for a single moment that the "good old days" will come back any time soon.

I am dismayed that you take the view that some people will ill afford to visit the TRNC and indeed those same poorer people are undesirable.

[waz-24-7]

If people love North Cyprus as we do then they will adapt to whatever rules or regulations that may be in place. That applies to those permanent residents who may only leave the island every so often, those who are swallows.....like us or those coming for a few weeks holiday.

Cannot get concerned about it to be honest. We have flown into Larnaca and Ercan depending on flight availability, timings and cost. If Ercan is the only option, so be it......if it costs more then fine.......it’s not going to stop us coming over.

The same goes for crossing over to the south. Personally I think the GC authorities would be foolish to stop U.K. nationals crossing and I don’t think it will happen but if it did, no problem as they say.

As for those jumping in and making the old comment about those who supported Brexit are just becoming wise to this......rubbish. Just another low powered version of project fear.

Posh,
Most certainly next year the entrance routes into TRNC will change for UK citizens. Europeans will not be effected.
Clearly you are not worried with the prospect of the possible difficulties, costs and delays as well as possible restrictions to travel into the ROC.

I think I am correct that you also reside in the UK. Therefore you must be aware of the current and predicted state of uncertainty.
Yes it is fair and proper to be fearful. The prospects of a NO DEAL are now being published by our government. They are concerning and we should be fearful.
My own view remains that the damage to the UK and its economy will be significant and long term.
Anyone that takes the view that the experts were wrong before the referendum should now re visit the current consensus from experts that the damage over next years will hit all economic sectors without exclusion.

Given these views. I yet again ask anyone to come forth and describe any good reason why anyone voted to leave the Union.

[PoshinDevon]

Waz

I have long given up trying to have a reasonable discussion with yourself.

My post is simply saying that in my opinion if you love North Cyprus as I and many of us do, you will adapt and still continue to visit whatever possible new rules and regulations are out in place.

This is a thread about flights to Larnaca after Brexit, not a discussion about why some voted to remain part of the EU and others voted to leave the EU. To prevent this thread going off topic can I suggest you find the appropriate thread on this forum should you wish to continue to discuss the economic impact, immigration, jobs etc as a result of the decision to leave the EU.

With regards to travel to the ROC, arrival at Larnaca, crossing into the north not even you has any idea what rules, regulations or restrictions may be in place for UK nationals. You prefer to err on the side of it will all be very difficult, I happen to think it won’t be as bad as you predict. There’s a big world out there and I am confident UK nationals will continue to explore it.

[waz-24-7]

Waz

I have long given up trying to have a reasonable discussion with yourself.

My post is simply saying that in my opinion if you love North Cyprus as I and many of us do, you will adapt and still continue to visit whatever possible new rules and regulations are out in place.

This is a thread about flights to Larnaca after Brexit, not a discussion about why some voted to remain part of the EU and others voted to leave the EU. To prevent this thread going off topic can I suggest you find the appropriate thread on this forum should you wish to continue to discuss the economic impact, immigration, jobs etc as a result of the decision to leave the EU.

With regards to travel to the ROC, arrival at Larnaca, crossing into the north not even you has any idea what rules, regulations or restrictions may be in place for UK nationals. You prefer to err on the side of it will all be very difficult, I happen to think it won’t be as bad as you predict. There’s a big world out there and I am confident UK nationals will continue to explore it.

Posh,
Given the topic heading refers to BREXIT directly. The outcome post April 2019 including its general ramifications is indeed relevant to the question.
My question as to why on earth did anyone vote to leave may be off topic so I shall refrain ongoing.

Upon your comment upon Arrival into the ROC as an EU member.
Already and on other posts we have started to experience the effects ( at Larnaca airport) of our divorce from the Union. (Delays and questioning) The rules and regulations are very clear, you should be aware that to surrender your European passport will remove your right to freedom of movement within the EU.
Now certainly. The level of difficulty is unknown. However given the historical animosity borne by the ROC to supporters of the TRNC. Expect significant challenges should you want, need or require to enter the ROC if you are such a supporter.

In summary, It is clear that traveling to the TRNC will become more difficult and expensive post Brexit. You clearly will carry that difficulty without fear of the new legislation post divorce. Certainly travelling to Cyprus given its unique set of circumstances will not be like travel to say France or Spain.
Whilst you and others will travel as you have indicated. The younger generation of UK citizens may well opt out.

[Kanonier]

If people love North Cyprus as we do then they will adapt to whatever rules or regulations that may be in place. That applies to those permanent residents who may only leave the island every so often, those who are swallows.....like us or those coming for a few weeks holiday.

Cannot get concerned about it to be honest. We have flown into Larnaca and Ercan depending on flight availability, timings and cost. If Ercan is the only option, so be it......if it costs more then fine.......it’s not going to stop us coming over.

The same goes for crossing over to the south. Personally I think the GC authorities would be foolish to stop U.K. nationals crossing and I don’t think it will happen but if it did, no problem as they say.

As for those jumping in and making the old comment about those who supported Brexit are just becoming wise to this......rubbish. Just another low powered version of project fear.

I agree 100% with the above. I think military/ex military are quite adaptable as we have been "****** about by experts".

[EnjoyingTheSun]

In response
I think it more wise to look at more modern scenarios rather than historical protocol from years gone by. (2004)
I fear that you may, like others harp back to the colonial days and the great British Empire.
I do not think for a single moment that the "good old days" will come back any time soon.

You fear a lot and must be a gift to these people who make a very good living inventing these doomsday scenarios but don't fear that we harp back to colonial days. The Empire was long gone by 2004 and even 1972.

As for the "good old days" if you are one of these Europhiles who seem to credit the EU with ending union problems, improving our economy, inventing the microprocessor and curing all diseases then yep the good old days have ended.

I am dismayed that you take the view that some people will ill afford to visit the TRNC and indeed those same poorer people are undesirable.

I think he was talking about the Ayia Napa/Benidorm brigade so don't get all holier than thou.

[PoshinDevon]

Waz

Whatever rules/regulations in place, people will adapt. If the ROC authorities make things difficult then entry via Ercan it is. It’s not rocket science.

The U.K. has managed to survive thro many difficulties in the 20th century, travel to Cyprus or any other country is certainly not the most important issue to concern ourselves about.

As for your comment about young people opting out of travelling.... as it may be to difficult, that to me shows you have a low expectation and opinion about how versatile and adaptable our young people are. Of course they will still travel if they want to.

This topic is about flights to Cyprus post Brexit so there is no reason to go off topic and start to regurgitate all your previous Brexit arguments which have been repeated elsewhere on the forum.

[erol]

However before the Republic of Cyprus joined the EU, crossing the green line in Cyprus as a non Cypriot was not so easy.
erol.

I think that you may be a little confused here erol.
Pre 2004 only special categories of Greek Cypriots were allowed to cross the borders. As a British Passport holder living in the South pre 2004 I certainly never encountered any type of problem crossing to the North.

tt.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Na ... #Crossings

After a nearly 30-year ban on crossings, the Turkish Cypriot administration significantly eased travel restrictions across the dividing line in April 2003, allowing Greek Cypriots to cross at the Ledra Palace Crossing just outside the walls of old Nicosia. This was only made possible after the decision of the ECHR (Djavit An vs Turkey, Application No.20652/92).[11]

Before Cypriot accession to the European Union, there were restrictions on Green Line crossings by foreigners imposed by the Republic of Cyprus, but these were abolished for EU citizens by EU regulation 866/2004.[12]

Actually the EU regulation that stopped the RoC from being able to unilateraly restrict the crossing of foreigners over the Green line did so for both EU citizens and non EU citizens.

[EnjoyingTheSun]

My own view remains that the damage to the UK and its economy will be significant and long term.
Anyone that takes the view that the experts were wrong before the referendum should now re visit the current consensus from experts that the damage over next years will hit all economic sectors without exclusion.

Any of your experts among these 364?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/per ... wrong.html

BTW we had been in the EU nine years by 1981 and the country was still in a right state so obviously joining wasn't a short term fix so leaving and undoing won't be either.
We had a leave vote in 1975 and took another 41 years to get another,r so to be more than fair how about we leave and have another vote in say 20 years? Trust me they'll have us back