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Parking ticket 2011!

Posted: Fri 04 Jan 2019 3:24 pm
by Reyntj
I came here to live in 2011. Since then i have only had one telephone number . Over the year i Have paid various speeding tickets and at one point o got that many i lost my license . It was held at kyrenia poice station.

Twice when i crossed the border they asked me for my tekephone number and i obliged . Also about a year ago again at the border they said i needed to go to traffic at girne so i went . They checked the system and nothing . This happened again recently . So i went today . The traffic policeman spent about ten minutes looking at the screen . Then he referrred it to another man . After waitng more he opened a big book and eventually located some paperwork and said it was a parking ticket from 2011!

It was from a car i Had never owned and i didnt recognise the number plate . It was probably a hire car . I asked him how much it was he said it was 130 tl bt it had ne doubled because it had gone to court as they couldnt get hold of me ? So now 260 tl . They asked me would i sign for it and i declined . In 2011 and i ammassed 195 speeding points from girne police station which i duly paid all fines and they kept my driving licenese for a year . Snce then i have had the odd fine maybe 3 or 4 and the police have always been able and issue me them .

How can they claim they could not contact me and send it to court and double the fine ? Does anyone know how long they pursue outstanding fines etc as ive heard of a few years etc but 8 years is crazy ! I have lived here full time during that period .

Re: Parking ticket 2011!

Posted: Sat 05 Jan 2019 9:50 am
by Chriswright03
I don't know the answer to your question but from reading this just know I don't want to be on the road when you are about. It would appear the fines are not working as a deterrent and you are not learning.

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Posted: Sat 05 Jan 2019 11:24 am
by ozankoys
Well said a danger to other road users I am assuming that the poster actually means speeding tickets & not parking as written which displays the same careless attitude as they adopt with their driving.

Re: Parking ticket 2011!

Posted: Sat 05 Jan 2019 1:24 pm
by Reyntj
Well for your information when i first came in 2011 in a 10 day period i amassed 195 points in speeding tickets driving backwards and forwards magusa and girne . I wasnt aware of the speed limits here then and cameras. Since then over the last 8 years i have had about 3 or 4 tickets in 8 years . So you are both incorrect . I drve 3000 km per month here. I a have never had car accident in 30 years of driving . When i was banned here all of my tickets where on the girne lefkosa road where i was probably doing c 80 km or so an hour which is less than 50 mph . This was late at with no other drivers about on the dual carriage way so hardly a danger to others . I paid the tickets and got banned for a year.

After this 3 or 4 tickets in 8 years drivng 3000 km per month is hardly careless is it . Neither of you have read my post properly and i believe have misjudged me .

Also it was a parking ticket . I did not make a mistake. Some people on here are know it alls ....the traffic police issue parking tickes as well and if you had taken the time to read my post correctly my point was that the police have been pefectly able to contact me about speeding fines but could not contact me about a parking ticket from 2011 and sent it to court . Perhaps if your reading ability is as careless as your driving people should stay away from you on the road .

Perhaps when judging people in future more care and attention should be taken you might get some tenants who pay the rent then !

Re: Parking ticket 2011!

Posted: Sat 05 Jan 2019 2:20 pm
by snd1966
In the very old days early 1990's court cases used to be posted outside the court, I can remember my Father saying how would he know he had broken the law and due in court if this was the only way they tried to communicate with him. The person who had proceeded with court did win the case as the house was registered in his wife's name only therefore he was not registered anywhere.

Maybe if you smile accept the fine but ask if you can challenge the penalty as you did not know, this this and this is in your name, list all your dealings with the police and how you were managed to be contacted , your in and outs opportunities where they could of told you. but I assume they are saying they told you a year ago the occasion when they could not find anything

also if a hire car check out the ownership, make sure the in and outs show you are in the country

good luck

Re: Parking ticket 2011!

Posted: Sat 05 Jan 2019 2:34 pm
by Reyntj
I have decided to go and pay the ticket on monday morning Just cant understand how they havent been able to contact me in .8 years despite other mentioned contacts. Actually i do understand like a lot of goverment stuff here they just have mountains and piles of paperwork and files all higgledly piddley on desks . This is what the police desk looked like . After i had waited about 20 minute one of them pulled out a really big ledger book scanned through it a bit and found the alledged parking offence . Then after going through some other files found the docs !

Re: Parking ticket 2011!

Posted: Sat 05 Jan 2019 7:20 pm
by Chriswright03
Reyntj wrote:Well for your information when i first came in 2011 in a 10 day period i amassed 195 points in speeding tickets driving backwards and forwards magusa and girne . I wasnt aware of the speed limits here then and cameras. Since then over the last 8 years i have had about 3 or 4 tickets in 8 years . So you are both incorrect . I drve 3000 km per month here. I a have never had car accident in 30 years of driving . When i was banned here all of my tickets where on the girne lefkosa road where i was probably doing c 80 km or so an hour which is less than 50 mph . This was late at with no other drivers about on the dual carriage way so hardly a danger to others . I paid the tickets and got banned for a year.

After this 3 or 4 tickets in 8 years drivng 3000 km per month is hardly careless is it . Neither of you have read my post properly and i believe have misjudged me .

Also it was a parking ticket . I did not make a mistake. Some people on here are know it alls ....the traffic police issue parking tickes as well and if you had taken the time to read my post correctly my point was that the police have been pefectly able to contact me about speeding fines but could not contact me about a parking ticket from 2011 and sent it to court . Perhaps if your reading ability is as careless as your driving people should stay away from you on the road .

Perhaps when judging people in future more care and attention should be taken you might get some tenants who pay the rent then !
I read your post properly thanks. I am well aware you are asking about a parking fine. Hence the title Parking fine 2011. I have not misjudged you as I don't know you. I just think regardless of your protestations of innocence and not knowing the speed limits you have shown a couldn't care less attitude. I didn't know them when I started driving here so I found out what they were which really wasn't that difficult.

As for the bit about driving 3000kms a month and 3 or 4 tickets a year hardly careless. Well all of the speed cameras I have seen are well sign posted on the approach with the actual speed limit so there is no doubt whatsoever that you are approaching one and what speed you should be doing. Perhaps if you are not seeing them you are not paying enough attention to the road while you are driving.

Whilst I appreciate your original post was to ask for help in respect of your parking fine, you yourself brought up the amount of speeding fines you have received. I have offered an opinion but that is just what it is and other opinions are available. Make no doubt though I can read and have read your post properly. That does not change my opinion. All too often on here there are posts about poor driving, 'dangerous' roads and the use of mobile phones while driving. I just think that your driving over the speed limit as often as you must do (no one gets caught every time) the fact that you have not had an accident is only part of the story.

Re: Parking ticket 2011!

Posted: Sat 05 Jan 2019 8:01 pm
by Reyntj
Your clearly a simpleton twice i wrote that in the last 8 years i have only got 3 or 4 tickets i never wrote 3 or 4 per year. Its clear for everyone to see that you cant comprehend basic english . You keep saying you have read my posts properly but you clearly havent or perhaps you are dyslexic. Sorry if thats the case.

Re: Parking ticket 2011!

Posted: Sat 05 Jan 2019 8:01 pm
by Reyntj
Your clearly a simpleton twice i wrote that in the last 8 years i have only got 3 or 4 tickets i never wrote 3 or 4 per year. Its clear for everyone to see that you cant comprehend basic english .

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Posted: Sat 05 Jan 2019 8:37 pm
by Reyntj
Just to clarify and simplify the situation for those unable to understand.:

Since my speeding ban in 2011 i have received 3 or 4 tickets in total . I drive c 3000 km per month . So on average about 1ticket every two years or about 1 ticket for every 70000 km driven .

Please if you cant understand this having already written this twice before id seek some sort of learning help.

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Posted: Sat 05 Jan 2019 10:01 pm
by jofra
"I came here to live in 2011....Over the year(s) i Have paid various speeding tickets and at one point o got that many i lost my license . It was held at kyrenia poice station...."
"...it was a parking ticket from 2011!"

....In 2011 and i ammassed 195 speeding points from girne police station which i duly paid all fines and they kept my driving licenese for a year . Snce then i have had the odd fine maybe 3 or 4 and the police have always been able and issue me them...."

"...in 2011 in a 10 day period i amassed 195 points in speeding tickets driving backwards and forwards magusa and girne . I wasnt aware of the speed limits here then and cameras...."
- driving without due care and attention (i.e. not seeing speed signs); failing to comply with (or even learn) relevant laws, statutes and regulations....?

"...Since my speeding ban in 2011 i have received 3 or 4 ticketd in total..."

Parking restrictions usually exist for a reason - disregard of these display a lack of consideration and concern for others, and an arrogant disregard for certain rules and regulations which intended to benefit the majority - so parking tickets would hopefully (but are unlikely to) cure that lack of consideration.

Speeding restrictions exist to preserve lives - plain and simple. Failure to abide by them - firstly learn and then look for them - warrants speeding tickets; IMO, after the second, a specific time ban; after the third - a life ban. A speedster kills one of your family - would YOU accept that he/she had received more than two or three tickets - and had not learned the lesson?

I have been driving for over 50 years; many years ago I received my one and only speeding ticket - I learned my lesson. Sadly, since then (in two seperate incidents) friends have been killed by speeders....

Parking? A peculiarity in UK parking/obstruction laws is that if someone parks across my driveway, whether they can be prosecuted ("ticketed") depends solely on whether they are blocking my access TO or FROM my house - nevertheless, they are not giving a **** about me - they are displaying a total lack of concern and/or consideration.... as is anyone who objects to criticism regarding their self-admitted misdemeanours.

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Posted: Sat 05 Jan 2019 10:33 pm
by Reyntj
Why stop at a life ban for three speeding tickets . Bring back hanging for three speeding tickets and stoning for parking ticket offences . Then the majority can all join in and stone the individual who has arrogantly disregarded the no parking rules. Also maybe waterboarding for parking offences where private drives have been blocked.

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Posted: Sat 05 Jan 2019 10:52 pm
by jofra
Yes; I accept that there are probably some who would agree wholeheartedly with your suggestion, but that could be construed as a little bit too drastic - even though it would be quite effective...
As I remarked, I learned my lesson, and as I also remarked, I have lost friends - have you lost any family?

Re: Parking ticket 2011!

Posted: Sun 06 Jan 2019 12:05 am
by Reyntj
So you get one speeding ticket a year and you have learned your lesson ? Hardly !

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Posted: Sun 06 Jan 2019 12:29 am
by jofra
Oh dear, oh dear; you bury yourself deeper with every post....
To quote - "Your clearly a simpleton twice i wrote that in the last 8 years i have only got 3 or 4 tickets i never wrote 3 or 4 per year. Its clear for everyone to see that you cant comprehend basic english . You keep saying you have read my posts properly but you clearly havent or perhaps you are dyslexic."
My post - "I have been driving for over 50 years; many years ago I received my one and only speeding ticket - I learned my lesson." - not exactly 'one a year'; one in FIFTY YEARS - but don't worry, your (apparent) dyslexia may also be the reason that you apparently failed to recognise speed limit signs and parking restriction signs.....
However, not to worry - your general opinions of and concern for everyone else seem now to have been amply demonstrated - as others have said, you are obviously one to be avoided - good luck with your life, and even better luck to everyone else.

Re: Parking ticket 2011!

Posted: Sun 06 Jan 2019 12:52 am
by Reyntj
I did it on purpose ! Wasnt that obvious ! My criticism was at being misquoted! You come on here telling me to accept criticism for my misdemeanors. So i gave you a taste of the same medicine . Not very nice is it !

Its interesting that in your opinion people should be banned for life after three tickets so that ok for you isnt it asyou only got 1 ticket ! What about all the other times you speeded and never got caught. You coukd have killed someone . Its ok if you only get caught once is it ? Try telling that to someones mother !

Your a self admitted speeder!! The only criticism i refused to takecwas when above they misquoted me . I understand that your vew is more than 1 ticket is 1 to many as that puts you in the clear diesnt it . But people where saying i had tickets 3 or 4 a year and that was not what i said so i corrected them . What should i do just stay quiet and not correct them ! So i put you in the same situation and look at the response ! Take the criticism you are as guilty as me ! A self confessed speeder !

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Posted: Sun 06 Jan 2019 2:09 am
by Reyntj
Lets face it you said you got your speeding ticket a long time ago and you have been driving 50 years. It was very difficult to get a speeding ticket 40 odd years ago as they didnt have what they have now also cars where not as poweful. Its very likely you will have been driving wreklessly and without due care and attention for others for a long time . 1 speeding ticket then in the uk is probably equivalent to 10 here . If it was less than 40 years ago then you are admitting you speeded for years without getting caughtt . Either way you where a speedster and a potential killer.

Before i came to trnc in 2011 i had driven in the uk for over 20 years and my driving license was spotless zero offences. Its very easy to get speeding tickets here theres police and cameras everywhere and in general the speed limits are low compared to other countries. In the uk the speed limit for dual carriage ways is 112 km and single carriage ways 96 km. If these limits where applied here i would not have received any of my points/tickets . I accept that that this is the law in this country . Whem im driving around i see very few cars driving at or below the prescribed speed limit unless approaching a camera.

I have also remembered what mistake i made in 2011 that led me to get 195 points in just a few days. I came to cyprus i didnt know anyone here . I was searching for a house and car i saw that everything was in sterling just like the uk. I got a hire car it was right hand drive and you drove on the same side as the uk . The speed dial was mpg as the car had probably been imported from the uk . As soon as i arrived i drove from girne to salamis backwards and forwards on the carriage ways for a few days. I saw that the speed limits where 65 and 75 similar to the uk. Everything was similar to the uk. Then three weeks later the hire company called me and told me i had 32 tickets . Yes i had made the schoolboy error of assuming the speed signs where mpg and not km .all my tickets had been on the carriage way. I had been driving at the same speed as i do in the uk but here its too fast . Yes it was a stupid error and yes i should have researched and found the speed limit here is in km but i didnt and i paid the price. I had not beenignoring the speed limit i just had made a very bad error of thinking they where mpg and not km.

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Posted: Sun 06 Jan 2019 3:24 am
by Chriswright03
Well I am pleased that is your last comment as the rest are now just being rude and objectionable.

I accept in my last post I did put 3 or 4 tickets a year as opposed to what you posted. So a simple mistake makes me a simpleton then. Whereas you continue to flout the law which is obviously not a simple mistake (once). You also fail to show where I had not read your first post correctly and seem to have two members posts confused with each other.

This will be my last post on this as well. So I would just suggest that rather than resorting to rude replies you address your own shortcomings and try and make the roads safer for the those around you. Name calling is extremely juvenile and does nothing to show how responsible you are.

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Posted: Sun 06 Jan 2019 8:14 am
by Reyntj
Well you just made another mistake as i didnt confuse two peoples posts i didnt reply directly to your post i replied directly to the forum clearly answering the other posters comment ! Anyone with any common sense would realise that! Which strenghens my thoughts about your iq. Yet again making unfounded accusations ! If you read my piost again it cleArly says ‘neither of you “ implying i am talking to two posters . we have already ascertained that you cant comprehend basic english . Its becoming more than a simple mistake (once) for you isnt it !

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Posted: Sun 06 Jan 2019 9:01 am
by Reyntj
This is to all above posters me included but especially jofra .people seem very concerned about the continuous flouting of basic rules of law . Jofra especially parking in front of ones drive and the lack of concern for others ! Small laws like parking and speeding and respecting others are very important .!

So what about an illegal invasion 1000s of deaths illegall occupation and stolen land . Its ok to come here and support an unrecognised country and likely live on stoken greek land how are you respecting the greeks and flouting international law . No doubt jofra will have some answer to this that suits him a bit like his speeding ticket . But when someone parks s in front of his house its a major violation but when he comes to live in an illegally occupied country and likely live on greek stolen land where are his morals then .how are you all respectingthe rights of greeks . Im included in this but then im not laying the law down to people about minor traffic offences.

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Posted: Sun 06 Jan 2019 10:06 am
by tomsteel
Reyntj wrote:This is to all above posters me included but especially jofra .people seem very concerned about the continuous flouting of basic rules of law . Jofra especially parking in front of ones drive and the lack of concern for others ! Small laws like parking and speeding and respecting others are very important .!

So what about an illegal invasion 1000s of deaths illegall occupation and stolen land . Its ok to come here and support an unrecognised country and likely live on stoken greek land how are you respecting the greeks and flouting international law . No doubt jofra will have some answer to this that suits him a bit like his speeding ticket . But when someone parks s in front of his house its a major violation but when he comes to live in an illegally occupied country and likely live on greek stolen land where are his morals then .how are you all respectingthe rights of greeks . Im included in this but then im not laying the law down to people about minor traffic offences.
I concede the original post on parking is yours, but how you have taken that thread to your biased and personal views of the '74 intervention to prevent TC genocide by Greek military and EOKA personnel beggars belief. Can I also advise you to check your spelling, grammar, syntax etc prior to posting?

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Posted: Sun 06 Jan 2019 10:35 am
by Reyntj
It sereved as a relevant point that other posters especially jofra are very concerned about people parking in front of their drive in the uk and adhering to basic laws when they very likely commit far worse moral/legal injustices occupying greek land infinitum and supporting an unrecognised state. And you say my view is biased i presume this is in relationship to the illegal occupation but that particular bias i have expressed here is in the significant global majority isnt it and thats why the whole world except turkey consider trnc as an unrecognised state. People dont come and live here to support the trnc they cone here because they like it and historically it was cheaper . The likes of jofra who have very high morals and respect for the rule of international laws and moral respect for others conveniently forget this when it comes to living and supporting an unrecognised state but when others break some minor traffic offences they are the first to critcise. My point is people in glass houses should not throw stones.

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Posted: Sun 06 Jan 2019 11:09 am
by Soner
It's a crazy world we live in. My take on the TRNC is that those that come here and invest understand the history and the grief that the TC has gone through. Yes, there are embargoes unfairly placed on the TRNC which tells me that those that agree with it are totally blind to the entire process of the 74 intervention. Why place embargoes on the TRNC when acknowledging that Turkey illegally invaded and partitioned the north of Cyprus? Wouldn't it make more sense to place the embargoes on Turkey? No, because it does suit the rest of the world.

Reyntj, as for speeding fines, I totally understand where you are coming from, as at first I had received many speeding tickets due to thinking that speed limits were in mph, easily done due to not knowing the facts and not asking. Many locals still talk in miles and not kilometres. I think if this was addressed in your original post then it may not have been contested in the way it had been.

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Posted: Sun 06 Jan 2019 11:25 am
by Reyntj
Your completely correct soner i should have addressed this in my first post and have admiitedly brought some of the criticism on myself and can see how people would be shocked by so many points i hope my explanation goes some way in explaining this. I appreciate some peoples tolerance of how many tickets people should get is different to mine. I hadnt set out to offend anyone but i fealt unduly attacked . I apologise to anyone for insulting them . I havent had a speeding ticket now for at least 3 years from memory probably coincides with the birth of my daughter and the fact that i do drive a lot slower here now due to having family responsiblities. I started the thread because the authorities had doubled a penalty for a parking ticket as they said they hadnt been able to contact me in 8 years but had clearly been able to contact me on numerous other occasions . As posted i have decided to not contest this now and pay it tommorrow so i dont need any advice . Thank you .

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Posted: Sun 06 Jan 2019 2:55 pm
by jofra
Reyntj-
Please take note of the following -
Lets face it you said you got your speeding ticket a long time ago and you have been driving 50 years. It was very difficult to get a speeding ticket 40 odd years ago .....
My one ticket was "many" (undefined) years ago - still much less than "40 odd".
Its very likely you will have been driving wreklessly and without due care and attention for others for a long time....
Illogical and unsubstantiated assumption - reckless.
If it was less than 40 years ago then you are admitting you speeded for years without getting caughtt . Either way you where a speedster and a potential killer.
Unfounded and TOTALLY UNTRUE accusations, which without any evidence to substantiate them are dangerous to make.

It sereved as a relevant point that other posters especially jofra are very concerned about people parking in front of their drive in the uk and adhering to basic laws when they very likely commit far worse moral/legal injustices occupying greek land infinitum and supporting an unrecognised state...
...The likes of jofra who have very high morals and respect for the rule of international laws and moral respect for others conveniently forget this when it comes to living and supporting an unrecognised state but when others break some minor traffic offences they are the first to critcise...

Further illogical and unsubstantiated assumptions - it would be wise to stop now.
Do NOT make further accusations or claim that I have made "admissions" or statements that I have not made.

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Posted: Sun 06 Jan 2019 3:17 pm
by Reyntj
I assumed that you live here for at least part of the year is that so unsubstantiated and illogical . I think not ! A quick look at your posting history confirmed that .

Re: Parking ticket 2011!

Posted: Sun 06 Jan 2019 3:32 pm
by Soner
This can go on forever. Thread locked.