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Can Muslim Showers become popular in North Cyprus?
Posted: Thu 04 Jul 2019 2:39 pm
by Sharaf Electro Store
Do you think that Muslim Showers can become well accepted in the wash rooms if introduced in North Cyprus?
Your responses will be well appreciated.
Re: Can Muslim Showers become popular in North Cyprus?
Posted: Fri 05 Jul 2019 7:04 am
by kedikat2903
What is a Muslim shower? Could you post a picture please.
Re: Can Muslim Showers become popular in North Cyprus?
Posted: Fri 05 Jul 2019 7:17 am
by aghooster
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bidet_shower
Bidet showers are used by people in washrooms in all parts of the Arab world as well as in Asia in order to cleanse themselves with water after using the toilet. Here, water is commonly used instead of, or together with, toilet paper for cleaning.
https://ibb.co/wsM13rR
and
https://ibb.co/0jzkPLr
These are images of Muslim Showers
Re: Can Muslim Showers become popular in North Cyprus?
Posted: Fri 05 Jul 2019 7:28 am
by Bert
Probably the ablution pre prayer at a guess
Re: Can Muslim Showers become popular in North Cyprus?
Posted: Fri 05 Jul 2019 8:34 am
by Dalartokat
Re: Can Muslim Showers become popular in North Cyprus?
Posted: Fri 05 Jul 2019 8:41 am
by frontalman
Sharaf Electro Store wrote:Do you think that Muslim Showers can become well accepted in the wash rooms if introduced in North Cyprus?
Your responses will be well appreciated.
Be good if they were used universally in the UK, then we could save millions in paper waste and and get rid of those stupid Andrex adverts where kids are paid to say that they feel as clean as a banana in an ice rink (I just made that one up).
Re: Can Muslim Showers become popular in North Cyprus?
Posted: Fri 05 Jul 2019 8:52 am
by Dalartokat
frontalman wrote:Sharaf Electro Store wrote:Do you think that Muslim Showers can become well accepted in the wash rooms if introduced in North Cyprus?
Your responses will be well appreciated.
Be good if they were used universally in the UK, then we could save millions in paper waste and and get rid of those stupid Andrex adverts where kids are paid to say that they feel as clean as a banana in an ice rink (I just made that one up).
Totally agree, unfortunately we cannot get house builders to put even a bathroom cabinet as standard, let alone a standard bidet, or, even let alone an an extra shower!
Re: Can Muslim Showers become popular in North Cyprus?
Posted: Fri 05 Jul 2019 1:32 pm
by waddo
I would think that they would be most welcome and if anyone would know if they sell here, these people should:
https://www.facebook.com/pakdusgirne/
Re: Can Muslim Showers become popular in North Cyprus?
Posted: Fri 05 Jul 2019 2:18 pm
by Deniz1
My toilet has a spiggot built in just below the rim most toilets here have one.
Re: Can Muslim Showers become popular in North Cyprus?
Posted: Fri 05 Jul 2019 8:22 pm
by mrsgee
I thought most toilets here had a built in bidet..... all of ours do.
Re: Can Muslim Showers become popular in North Cyprus?
Posted: Fri 05 Jul 2019 9:01 pm
by frontalman
Yes but the showers are just a fancier version of the normal fitting here. I think that is why the original poster was asking whether they might catch on if marketed here,
Re: Can Muslim Showers become popular in North Cyprus?
Posted: Sat 06 Jul 2019 6:22 am
by Deniz1
If you want to get fancy fix a bit of hose to the pipe already in the toilet.
Re: Can Muslim Showers become popular in North Cyprus?
Posted: Sat 06 Jul 2019 8:21 am
by ozankoys
These showers have a separate water supply next to the toilet, they do not ‘fix’ to the bidet spout inside the pan.
To be retro fitted would require altering the bathroom pipework to accommodate this extra supply.
Re: Can Muslim Showers become popular in North Cyprus?
Posted: Sat 06 Jul 2019 10:45 am
by thornaby
The strict but necessary water regulations in the uk would not allow the type of thing mentioned to be installed or sold. Water to a toilet or a bath / sink has to come in at above the rim. This is to prevent back flow contamination. So for a bidet it would have to have taps letting water into the bidet at a minimum height above the rim or if it is a spray from the bottom of the bidet in must be supplied from a break tank.
Re: Can Muslim Showers become popular in North Cyprus?
Posted: Sat 06 Jul 2019 12:06 pm
by thornaby
Not mentioned, but a cheap and easy to fit solution would be to fit a hand held bidet shower spray /hose.
Re: Can Muslim Showers become popular in North Cyprus?
Posted: Sat 06 Jul 2019 1:24 pm
by Johnny Lee
Thornaby is spot on, about UK. Legionaries disease etc. Same as the old Globe taps on old fashioned baths below the overflow. Back feed contamination. However after saying that, we fitted several of these devices in the UK for Asian families who bought them back from over seas.
Re: Can Muslim Showers become popular in North Cyprus?
Posted: Sat 06 Jul 2019 1:51 pm
by Deniz1
Mine is fed by an external supply next to the toilet.
Re: Can Muslim Showers become popular in North Cyprus?
Posted: Sat 06 Jul 2019 4:59 pm
by aghooster
waddo » Fri 05 Jul 2019 3:32 pm
I would think that they would be most welcome and if anyone would know if they sell here, these people should:
https://www.facebook.com/pakdusgirne/
Hey!
These people sell easy to install bidet/muslim showers worldwide
fb.com/essentialsworldwide/
Yes I agree they should be welcome. The bidet shower usually is easy to install and its water inlet is higher so there is no back flow making it a hygienic option.
Re: Can Muslim Showers become popular in North Cyprus?
Posted: Sat 06 Jul 2019 7:58 pm
by thornaby
Deniz1, I think you will find if you dug away the wall next to the toilet that your "external supply is exactly the same pipe that feeds your toilet, it's just extended by a few inches under the tiles. There is only one supply to the house and everything comes off it!
Re: Can Muslim Showers become popular in North Cyprus?
Posted: Sun 07 Jul 2019 6:45 am
by Deniz1
No its not!
Re: Can Muslim Showers become popular in North Cyprus?
Posted: Sun 07 Jul 2019 6:52 am
by waddo
Just in case you are not confused enough, I found this helpful little bit about bum washers in the UK:
https://community.screwfix.com/threads/ ... ons.84303/
Of course out here - in the real world - things may be a little different and purpose built bidets are getting quite common all over, I had one in my flat in Limassol in 1972! Of course the water supply to the bidet just come off the same supply as all the other taps in the place but then who cared? How many people have the flexible hose type tap on there kitchen sinks I wonder - also should come off a seperate supply apparently?
Happy to say that our bidet/sock soaker/underwear sink/small dog bath is no longer in use but good luck to all - lol.
Re: Can Muslim Showers become popular in North Cyprus?
Posted: Sun 07 Jul 2019 7:54 am
by thornaby
Hi Deniz1, your plumbing must be very different to all that I have seen and worked on . The two outlets on the wall are fed from the same cold water pipe that supplies the taps around the house all coming from the house pump which takes its water from the outside tank. Its common to see (especially in bars etc) to see a single wall outlet with a tee piece fitted that supplies both the cistern fill valve and the so called bidet outlet!
Re: Can Muslim Showers become popular in North Cyprus?
Posted: Sun 07 Jul 2019 8:25 am
by Deniz1
Oh well I like to be different!
Re: Can Muslim Showers become popular in North Cyprus?
Posted: Sun 07 Jul 2019 8:26 am
by thornaby
Deniz1, it's good to be different, have a great day!
Re: Can Muslim Showers become popular in North Cyprus?
Posted: Mon 08 Jul 2019 4:33 am
by Mimi2
Great after a Madras!!!!!!
Re: Can Muslim Showers become popular in North Cyprus?
Posted: Mon 08 Jul 2019 7:10 am
by Keithcaley
Mimi2 wrote:Great after a Madras!!!!!!
(v) in da loo?
Re: Can Muslim Showers become popular in North Cyprus?
Posted: Mon 08 Jul 2019 8:02 am
by iancrumpy
Deniz1 wrote:My toilet has a spiggot built in just below the rim most toilets here have one.
Frontalman wrote:Be good if they were used universally in the UK, then we could save millions in paper waste.
Thornaby wrote:The strict but necessary water regulations in the uk would not allow the type of thing.
JohnnyLee wrote:Thornaby is spot on, about UK. Legionaries disease etc
I don't know about the Legionaires and all that, but, as Frontalman wrote, it certainly saves paper. By the way, if you're getting a new toilet, and you want the "spigot" (Deniz1 in msg9) built in, like in the image shown below, then you might like to know that the tap-and-spout is called a "taharet musluğu". Regardless of whether I've had curry or not, I certainly miss this sort of toilet when I'm not here or in Turkey. Indeed, many Turkish friends of ours dislike travelling outside of Turkey, because there is no taharet musluğu to use ... they complain they don't feel clean.
As to the original poster's question about "muslim showers" catching on here, I have worked in a few Arab countries, where in the bathrooms, alongside the bidet, there was a short rubber hose with a powerful spray/shower. It was very difficult not to end up with water on the floor. Indeed I would often enter the gents' toilets at my school to find water everywhere. So no, I don't think that "muslim showers" would take on here. Turks, TCs and indeed many expats here are very happy with the existing and very practical (albeit banned in the UK) taharet musluğu toilets they have here.
Re: Can Muslim Showers become popular in North Cyprus?
Posted: Mon 08 Jul 2019 8:10 am
by iancrumpy
Edited down to nothing because it was posted in msg 27 above.
Re: Can Muslim Showers become popular in North Cyprus?
Posted: Mon 08 Jul 2019 12:47 pm
by Saddique
Using Water to cleanse oneself after visiting the bathroom whether in the form of using a Bidet, a Sprout from within the toilet. a so called "Muslim shower" or even a container or bottle carrying water is practised in many parts of the world ie Middle East , Central and South Asia, North Africa , France as well as Malaysia /Indonesia to my knowledge.
The practice is used alongside Tissue paper to effectively cleanse the rear and be hygienic
Where the person practises the Islamic faith it is actually a mandatory requirement to perform this cleansing process irrespective of the country you reside in.
Back to the question of whether they will be popular depends on each individual / business whether they adopt into their washrooms.
The Toilets here we have noticed have the water sprout already built in to alleviate the other methods used above.
Another proof that water has health benefits ! LOL