Kibkom North Cyprus Forum

I renewed my TOM today and had an interesting discussion with a very friendly guy in the TOM office. He told me that their regulations at present are that no TOMs will be issued after 31 January if the vehicle concerned is TC registered and the owner is British. The TOM he issued to me is for a year but this of course will depend upon whether the GCs are going to let British passport holders over the border after the end of January anyway.

Oh Well. Ours expires early February
Won't be spending our cash in their shops now!

Not surprising that the ROC are going to be a bit picky about former EU citizens not breaching their borders from the north with vehicle access. Am sure that more restrictions will follow.

All those who live here, and voted for leaving the EU must be so proud of themselves.

alphamike, The RoC has always been picky about anything that they think can cause the North a problem, good luck to the leavers, hope they enjoy their party when it happens and get to pay for the damn bell in Big Ben to ring out again!

What has to be shown when getting the TOM our car is owned by my wife who is German but with TC ID
Card with red line but she has no Euro license. Could she get the TOM as she owns it and I present my uk
license. Confusing isn't it you would think they had more important things to worry about than continually
trying to find ways to punish the few Brits that live here.

All those who live here, and voted for leaving the EU must be so proud of themselves.[/quote]

Those British ex-pats living in the TRNC who elected to vote for Brexit would probably never have considered the impact on crossing the Green Line into the RoC as their priorities were far more important. Getting rid of the EU 'gravy train' costing UK taxpayers a fortune and re-establishing UK rule over UK citizens was, perhaps, more important? I suspect you were a member of the minority 'remainder' camp? However, this has nothing to do with the original post of TOM at Metehan.

Well said Tomsteel..... absolutely nothing to do with the original post, and as you quite rightly say, the leavers had far more reason to vote the way they did, than the minor detail of popping to the South. South in danger of shooting all their toes off....

So I take it that the ROC is going to ignore the transition period. Wasn't the 31st December 2020 the date given?

Thinking the insurance booths are going to lose a lot of money if we can't take our cars over!!

Can someone please explain what TOM means?

Please explain wot TOM means and wot benefit will I see from Brexit?

Can I ask again please what paperwork is needed for the gc road tax at Meehan.

Last year on my experience ... original.log book and UK driving license needed.

Wasn't there something a while back last year to say the RoC MIGHT not accept UK driving licences and only accept European Driving Permits.

After the UK leaves the EU you will require a 1949 IDP, available from UK Post Offices, and a UK Driving Licence to legally drive in the RoC.

That's if you can get a TOM - lol. TOM - permission to use your Northern registered car in the RoC without having to pay additional road tax, more or less!! Of course it could be the same as a MOT - you know how the RoC loves doing things backwards - lol.

Another question re TOM I'm in Germany at the moment what if I get an international licence here would that work?

tomsteel wrote:All those who live here, and voted for leaving the EU must be so proud of themselves.

Those British ex-pats living in the TRNC who elected to vote for Brexit would probably never have considered the impact on crossing the Green Line into the RoC as their priorities were far more important. Getting rid of the EU 'gravy train' costing UK taxpayers a fortune and re-establishing UK rule over UK citizens was, perhaps, more important? I suspect you were a member of the minority 'remainder' camp? However, this has nothing to do with the original post of TOM at Metehan.[/


Well said tomsteel. To think that some voted on the convenience of visiting Lidl’s is quite frightening!

Kanonier wrote:After the UK leaves the EU you will require a 1949 IDP, available from UK Post Offices, and a UK Driving Licence to legally drive in the RoC.

So I take it we are fine to drive on Uk licence until January 2021
This is what's on the Gov web site Cyprus 1949 You do not need an IDP unless the UK leaves the EU without a deal.

TAC wrote:

Kanonier wrote:After the UK leaves the EU you will require a 1949 IDP, available from UK Post Offices, and a UK Driving Licence to legally drive in the RoC.

So I take it we are fine to drive on Uk licence until January 2021
This is what's on the Gov web site Cyprus 1949 You do not need an IDP unless the UK leaves the EU without a deal.

That's how I read it.

Agreed, but what are you going to drive? OK if your TRNC registered vehicle already has a TOM but if it runs out - lets say in March - then what will you drive instead?

waddo wrote:Agreed, but what are you going to drive? OK if your TRNC registered vehicle already has a TOM but if it runs out - lets say in March - then what will you drive instead?

I would imagine any car that is legally registered in the RoC.

What is a TOM for those that do not know?

A TOM is actually a document No TOM89
Permission to use a TRNC registered Car in ROC.
Often called Road Tax or MOT document.
You Cannot purchase insurance without it

If you live in the north you cannot drive an ROC car across the border north to south the last person that did had the car taken from them.

the last person that did had the car taken from them.

Who was that then?

When was it?

Who took the car? - The TC Authorities, or the GCs?

It was a GC who lives in the TRNC and the car was taken from him by the TRNC then handed over to the RoC where it was re-sold to the original owner but without a Kocan! OR It is a good rumour and nobody knows for sure. OR The BRS are sorting it all out and will tell their members when they have fixed the problem. OR I wasn't me! lol.

I insured mine in the RoC yesterday and the insurance guy did not know anything about the British owners of TRNC registered cars not being able to get a TOM in the future, he just said yeah and we will wait and see!

Deniz1, that was kept very quiet wasn't it? If true I would have thought it would be a "hold the front page" story!!!

It was in Cyprus Today a few weeks ago I think. Its been the law for ages but ROC didnt seem to enforce it before.

It wasn't me, I was in Pizza Express, Woking at the time.

Went there yesterday with my old t.o.m,which has 4 months to run. Thought I would get a new one so at least I have a year which would be ok to fit in with the transition period.
Did not realize they just gave me exactly the same with the 4 months on. Anyway noticed on the way back . Asked for a year and they asked why as once the 31st Jan passes they wouldn't allow me through with my car anyway.even with the yearly document from the UK post office. They are saying you will be stopped because your car is owned by a non Turkish Cypriot.
Charming..... Awaiting the incoming mayhem

Brazen wrote:

tomsteel wrote:All those who live here, and voted for leaving the EU must be so proud of themselves.

Those British ex-pats living in the TRNC who elected to vote for Brexit would probably never have considered the impact on crossing the Green Line into the RoC as their priorities were far more important. Getting rid of the EU 'gravy train' costing UK taxpayers a fortune and re-establishing UK rule over UK citizens was, perhaps, more important? I suspect you were a member of the minority 'remainder' camp? However, this has nothing to do with the original post of TOM at Metehan.[/


Well said tomsteel. To think that some voted on the convenience of visiting Lidl’s is quite frightening!

To be honest, with the exception of pork I have no reason to go South. I can live without pork and my Breexit vote would not have been effected one way of another.

Yes.. I agree it's just the 18 cAts I feed which is going to hurt as the price here is double.

Striker are they now including all nationalities of expats then not just British?

Yes. . That's what he told me. I suppose until after the 31st we will not truly know. Same confusion as residency I suspect

Well....

If it's only the 'expat-owned-cars' that they are stopping, and not expats themselves, I suppose that I will need to transfer my car logbook (Koçan) into the name of my friendly, long-suffering, TC friend

I don’t think they can actually stop us personally in the transition period but they could stop us driving our cars over should they chose to. We just have to wait & hope!

They will lose a lot of revenue in insurance then. Another shot in the foot methinks. Maybe cut backs on staff who are not needed...... that was a bit tongue in cheek.... lol.

I don't think that they give a damn about the revenue as long as they inflict 'alarm and despondency' and damage TRNC's economy by putting people off living here and travelling to here...

Just gone back to pre 2004 is all - it was good here then and it's better now! Will miss the fish and chips but what the heck, Crispy Squid is just as good - lol and the Greeks come up here to eat the fish and chips there as well - don't figure!

Yes Keith but add that into loss of revenue through the airports, loss of revenue from Brits who shop in the south, loss of revenue from Brits who liked to visit and stay in hotels, eat at restaurants etc.... I think maybe the north should stop any Brit owning a GC registered car coming across, same thing really..... the GCs will feel the effects over time. We always loved to go to restaurants in the Troodos, funnily enough there were no GCs there or at least very few.... but, we helped them survive..... no longer unfortunately.

Waddo, don’t forget Saltys too, much better fish than I have had in the Uk for quite a number of years.... and he now has a Kentucky Fried chicken (it’s not called that of course but very similar) place next door, so you can have your choice.....

Buy pork in TRNC then.

Deniz, I do., we have the very best butcher in Ozankoy I buy all my meat from him. I do not feel the need to go shopping in the south, but will miss the visits to villages and restaurants..

So its the car and not the person driving it that cannot cross. F...... crazy. If you have someone you trust as Keith said change the name and hope they dont sell it over your head.

My TOM was due to run out on February 14th 2020. The date is important, but I can’t remember why!

Anyway, I handed in my current TOM which still had three weeks left, the friendly man took it, printed off a new one for twelve months starting today.

Panic over.

There are always many solutions to every situation . If you really want to go south or want things from the south I am sure you can have a laugh at their expense figuring out ways around their petty rules. I personally feel it’s their loss at the end of the day . BRITISH people are resilient and will find ways of getting around this

Done today, no problems.....

Of course there will not be a problem issuing bit of paper.
Its what you can or cannot do with it on the,1at Feb.

Have to wait & see if any new TOM issued after 31st January.