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crossing border
Posted: Thu 06 Aug 2020 2:28 pm
by philco
This is the reply I had from the FCO regarding leaving Cyprus from Ercan and returning through Larnaca:-
Thank you for your email. As advised, and which you are aware, the borders are currently closed. I can only give information that is currently on our travel advice regarding local travel, which states:
British and other foreign nationals who have entered Cyprus through the north (such as via Ercan airport) are considered by the Government of the Republic of Cyprus to have entered Cyprus through an illegal port of entry. The Government of the Republic of Cyprus may fine you for illegal entry if you cross into the south, or refuse you entry into or exit from the Republic.
Please look at what is aid on this web site,
https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advic ... cal-travel
We cannot intervene nor ensure that you will be able to travel back in through the Republic of Cyprus without problems, however I would advise if you do choose to travel out of the north that you do not have your passport stamped but use the alternative visa slip.
I cannot comment on Political issues as previously advised.
Hopefully this will help some people wanting to travel to and return from UK. I do not hold out for early opening of border crossing
Kind regards
Re: crossing border
Posted: Thu 06 Aug 2020 3:14 pm
by sophie
I think that says it all, Those who are of the mind to try other means of entry and exit are advised not to try it. It least that's my take on the situation.
Re: crossing border
Posted: Thu 06 Aug 2020 3:15 pm
by waddo
Did not expect anything else really. The FCO are there to support the relatives, offer advice and enjoy the holiday. In my previous dealings with them and British High Commissions in other countries whilst I was a serving member of the armed forces, I swiftly learnt not to go to them for any help whatsoever. Best to ask the Commissioners of other countries for assistance which they are happy to provide - in most circumstances.
I guess that if you are a Cypriot then there are no illegal ports of entry in Cyprus as you can freely cross into the South having flown in from London via Ercan - interesting but typical of the RoC. I guess we had all better get behind it as it is the forerunner to Brexit anyway but I remain interested as one day I am due to be buried in the Dheklia Military Cemetery and just wonder how the RoC Undertaker is going to ship my remains to there.
Having paid all charges up front already, I do hope I have to be shipped by air via Athens and Larnaca at the RoC undertakers expense but I feel there will be a "BYE" that I will be allowed access to the SBA area's. When will it ever end I wonder.
Re: crossing border
Posted: Fri 07 Aug 2020 6:58 am
by frontalman
It'll be alright in the end, and if it's not alright, it's not the end.
Re: crossing border
Posted: Fri 07 Aug 2020 7:00 am
by frontalman
If things don't alter, they'll stay as they are!
Re: crossing border
Posted: Fri 07 Aug 2020 7:55 am
by Keithcaley
Careful there frontalman, you'll be chastised for bantering

Re: crossing border
Posted: Fri 07 Aug 2020 7:58 am
by sophie
Frontalman, be told. This is supposed to be a Banter Free Zone now.
Re: crossing border
Posted: Fri 07 Aug 2020 10:32 am
by Kanonier
This is no place for levity!!
Re: crossing border
Posted: Fri 07 Aug 2020 10:42 am
by pc4854
Poor frontalman!!!!!!!!
Re: crossing border
Posted: Fri 07 Aug 2020 10:45 am
by Keithcaley
Kanonier wrote: ↑Fri 07 Aug 2020 10:32 am
This is no place for levity!!
Or light-heartedness, carefreeness, light-mindedness, high spirits, vivacity, liveliness, conviviality, cheerfulness, cheeriness, humour, gaiety, fun, jocularity, hilarity, frivolity, frivolousness, amusement, mirth, laughter, merriment, glee, comedy, funniness, wit, wittiness, jollity, joviality, joking, drollery, good cheer, sportiveness, nonsense, irreverence, facetiousness, flippancy, blitheness, triviality, silliness, foolishness, childishness, giddiness, & skittishness either!
Re: crossing border
Posted: Fri 07 Aug 2020 10:49 am
by sophie
KC, your getting above and beyond yourself now, calm down. Oh BTW 4854, please don't start feeling sorry for frontalman, give him an inch and he'll take yard and then they'll be no stopping him.
Re: crossing border
Posted: Fri 07 Aug 2020 12:46 pm
by EnjoyingTheSun
frontalman wrote: ↑Fri 07 Aug 2020 6:58 am
It'll be alright in the end, and if it's not alright, it's not the end.
As my Sunday team used to say, forget about turning a corner let’s try and win a corner first
Re: crossing border
Posted: Fri 07 Aug 2020 12:51 pm
by EnjoyingTheSun
waddo wrote: ↑Thu 06 Aug 2020 3:15 pm
as one day I am due to be buried in the Dheklia Military Cemetery and just wonder how the RoC Undertaker is going to ship my remains to there.
I have arranged for Head Office to pop me in our wheelie bin, our bin men seem to take anything.
I’ve asked as the van pulls away she might like to throw a flower in the back to give the occasion a little dignity.
Re: crossing border
Posted: Fri 07 Aug 2020 12:55 pm
by dippersgirl
Re: crossing border
Posted: Fri 07 Aug 2020 1:27 pm
by Keithcaley
ETS, the little green lorry that Alsancak Belediyesi uses for funerals isn't that far removed from the bin lorry!
They have a re-usable coffin in the back, and take you out wrapped in a shroud to put you in the hole, and then buzz off to collect another one
Very eco-friendly!
Re: crossing border
Posted: Fri 07 Aug 2020 1:39 pm
by waddo
Keith, according to the "Blurb" the undertakers from the South sent me, I will be collected from my place of rest in the "Occupied Territory", taken to the undertakers establishment (see, you can get to go South if you try hard enough) well cared for (first time for everything I guess), treated with dignity (another first), washed (careful) and prepared for burial by being placed in the coffin provided (All coffins in the ROC have a viewing window - why? I won't be able to see out anyway) and placed in the room of remembrance for a day to allow for mourners! This seems like better service than I ever had with CTA - lol. The hearse (hopefully with me in the back) will be followed by the mourners to the Military Cemetery for interment (That's a civilian word for "Chucked in the hole") at the end of my chosen service. Either my country flag or service flag will be draped over the coffin and presented afterwards to the chief mourner. Of course if the boss snuffs it before me anyone can have the flag I guess.
Will let you know how it turns out - maybe - but looks better than the Green Lorry trip - lol.
Re: crossing border
Posted: Fri 07 Aug 2020 1:47 pm
by Keithcaley
Waddo, I wonder if they do it 'By the Numbers'

Re: crossing border
Posted: Fri 07 Aug 2020 2:02 pm
by Soner
Sophie, what's a "yard"?

Re: crossing border
Posted: Fri 07 Aug 2020 2:17 pm
by frontalman
Keithcaley wrote: ↑Fri 07 Aug 2020 1:27 pm
ETS, the little green lorry that Alsancak Belediyesi uses for funerals isn't that far removed from the bin lorry!
They have a re-usable coffin in the back, and take you out wrapped in a shroud to put you in the hole, and then buzz off to collect another one
Very eco-friendly!
Very dangerous too, who knows what diseases are getting passed from one occupant to the next. I've seen the belediye pouring weedkiller on the graves in the cemetery too, surely that's dangerous to the occupants.
Re: crossing border
Posted: Fri 07 Aug 2020 2:22 pm
by frontalman
waddo wrote: ↑Fri 07 Aug 2020 1:39 pm
Keith, according to the "Blurb" the undertakers from the South sent me, I will be collected from my place of rest in the "Occupied Territory", taken to the undertakers establishment (see, you can get to go South if you try hard enough) well cared for (first time for everything I guess), treated with dignity (another first), washed (careful) and prepared for burial by being placed in the coffin provided (All coffins in the ROC have a viewing window - why? I won't be able to see out anyway) and placed in the room of remembrance for a day to allow for mourners! This seems like better service than I ever had with CTA - lol. The hearse (hopefully with me in the back) will be followed by the mourners to the Military Cemetery for interment (That's a civilian word for "Chucked in the hole") at the end of my chosen service. Either my country flag or service flag will be draped over the coffin and presented afterwards to the chief mourner. Of course if the boss snuffs it before me anyone can have the flag I guess.
Will let you know how it turns out - maybe - but looks better than the Green Lorry trip - lol.
My condolences in advance. You'll be sadly missed!
Re: crossing border
Posted: Fri 07 Aug 2020 3:06 pm
by Kanonier
Soner wrote: ↑Fri 07 Aug 2020 2:02 pm
Sophie, what's a "yard"?
It's the bit that the builders stick on the back of your house where they bury all the stuff that is left over and bits that don't fit when they are finished.

Re: crossing border
Posted: Fri 07 Aug 2020 3:24 pm
by EnjoyingTheSun
Keithcaley wrote: ↑Fri 07 Aug 2020 1:27 pm
ETS, the little green lorry that Alsancak Belediyesi uses for funerals isn't that far removed from the bin lorry!
They have a re-usable coffin in the back, and take you out wrapped in a shroud to put you in the hole, and then buzz off to collect another one
Very eco-friendly!
Not worried about the enviroment, I'm looking for around 100TL max.
Re: crossing border
Posted: Fri 07 Aug 2020 3:31 pm
by Keithcaley
Not worried about the enviroment, I'm looking for around 100TL max.
That'll be a cardboard box on the back of a moped then!
Re: crossing border
Posted: Fri 07 Aug 2020 3:38 pm
by Kanonier
Paket Servis!
Re: crossing border
Posted: Fri 07 Aug 2020 4:11 pm
by BILLYBONDZ
Have seen that green vehicle,that has the re useable Coffin in the back......it also has a flashing orange light on the top of the vehicle.......always reminds me of a sort of milk float..............
Re: crossing border
Posted: Fri 07 Aug 2020 4:22 pm
by jameslevel7
BILLYBONDZ wrote: ↑Fri 07 Aug 2020 4:11 pm
Have seen that green vehicle,that has the re useable Coffin in the back......it also has a flashing orange light on the top of the vehicle.......always reminds me of a sort of milk float..............
In this context probably driven by Fr. Douglas McGuire.
Re: crossing border
Posted: Fri 07 Aug 2020 4:23 pm
by jameslevel7
Dougal
Re: crossing border
Posted: Fri 07 Aug 2020 6:22 pm
by EnjoyingTheSun
Keithcaley wrote: ↑Fri 07 Aug 2020 3:31 pm
Not worried about the enviroment, I'm looking for around 100TL max.
That'll be a cardboard box on the back of a moped then!
Don't tease, wheres the link???
Re: crossing border
Posted: Fri 07 Aug 2020 9:49 pm
by jofra
waddo wrote: ↑Fri 07 Aug 2020 1:39 pm
Will let you know how it turns out - maybe ........
So this is on the premise that you are able to contact a (good) medium - but if you were actually able to contact
more than one, the details would then be reported by the media......?

Re: crossing border
Posted: Sat 08 Aug 2020 4:01 am
by Keithcaley
... as well as by some mediums

Re: crossing border
Posted: Sat 08 Aug 2020 7:10 am
by Kanonier
Keithcaley wrote: ↑Sat 08 Aug 2020 4:01 am
... as well as by some mediums
I used to be a medium but since lockdown.....................
Re: crossing border
Posted: Sat 08 Aug 2020 8:47 am
by Keithcaley
Kanonier wrote: ↑Sat 08 Aug 2020 7:10 am
Keithcaley wrote: ↑Sat 08 Aug 2020 4:01 am
... as well as by some mediums
I used to be a medium but since lockdown.....................
Well you know what you orta do!
Re: crossing border
Posted: Sat 08 Aug 2020 10:08 am
by sophie
KC, stop showing off. We all know you have Turkish lessons.
Re: crossing border
Posted: Sat 08 Aug 2020 11:02 am
by Keithcaley
I can't help it - it's my default setting

Re: crossing border
Posted: Sat 08 Aug 2020 12:17 pm
by Kanonier
Keithcaley wrote: ↑Sat 08 Aug 2020 8:47 am
Kanonier wrote: ↑Sat 08 Aug 2020 7:10 am
Keithcaley wrote: ↑Sat 08 Aug 2020 4:01 am
... as well as by some mediums
I used to be a medium but since lockdown.....................
Well you know what you orta do!
Very droll.

Re: crossing border
Posted: Sun 09 Aug 2020 1:15 pm
by Panchocat
I am just amazed that the FCO reply refers to the Green Line Crossing Points as a border!!!
Does that mean they recognise it as a hard border?
If so is that an admission that there are two separate states in Cyprus?
Re: crossing border
Posted: Mon 10 Aug 2020 9:59 am
by wanderer
Re: crossing border
Posted: Mon 10 Aug 2020 4:03 pm
by phild
Can anyone confirm this,would be happy to go in through pyla ?
phil