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Doors open to Maraş/Verosha on Thursday

Posted: Tue 06 Oct 2020 7:48 pm
by Soner
Heard today that TRNC gov will open up Maraş / Verosha this Thursday. Property and land owned by GC's can be claimed and occupied by GC's by proving ownership by form of deeds to TRNC gov, as well as TC's of course.
Interesting times.

Re: Doors open to Maraş/Verosha on Thursday

Posted: Tue 06 Oct 2020 8:42 pm
by wanderer
Vice President of the Republic of Turkey Fuat Oktay stated that the "Closed Maraş" region of Cyprus, which was closed to settlement and settlement 46 years ago, will be opened in accordance with the law. In his post on his social media account, Vice President Fuat Oktay said, "We are opening the beautiful MARAŞ, which has been idle for a long time, in a fair and lawful manner." used the expression. Stating that they work day and night for the Turkish Cypriots, Oktay said: “We said we will not leave the TRNC without water for even one day. The flow of "LIFE WATER" from the Taurus to the TRNC resumed. Good luck.

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Re: Doors open to Maraş/Verosha on Thursday

Posted: Wed 07 Oct 2020 1:51 am
by Soner
Turkish Cypriot coast of Maras to reopen on Thursday

The coastline of Maras will be open for public use as of Thursday morning, the prime minister of the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus, Ersin Tatar, said in a joint news conference with Turkey's President Recep Tayyip Erdogan.

The coastline of the abandoned town of Maras in the Turkish Cypriot city of Gazimagusa will reopen for public use on Thursday, the prime minister of the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus (TRNC) announced on Tuesday.

Maras is currently a ghost town where entry is forbidden, except for Turkish army personnel stationed in the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus (TRNC).

"The Maras issue is a national cause above all political competitions and debates," Tatar said while addressing a joint news conference with Turkey's President Recep Tayyip Erdogan in the capital Ankara.

"It is a fact that Maras is a TRNC territory. We fully support the decision to make Maras' coastline available to the public," Erdogan said.

Turkey is also ready to support the Turkish Cypriot administration to fully open the town of Maras, Erdogan stressed.

“The objections of the opposing party have already been in vain, as there will be no victimization due to the absence of any private property [in Maras],” Erdogan said.

The TRNC had announced the opening of Maras to tourists in 2019.

The move displays the commitment of the Turkish Republic of North Cyprus (TRNC) to developing the region marred by political uncertainty due to unresolved issues between Cypriot Turks and their Greek counterparts.

In a crucial move to develop the region, Turkish Republic of North Cyprus (TRNC) has announced the opening of the divided island’s ghost city, known as Varosha by Cypriot Greeks and Maras by their Turkish counterparts, set to support the catering and tourism industries.

In 1974, Turkey's military intervened in Cyprus to prevent a change in the island’s political status quo following the Greek Cypriot military coup against the internationally-recognised government of the Republic of Cyprus. In the following years, Maras, which was once a popular tourist spot, experienced a major population drain with Cypriot Greeks completely abandoning the city.

The island, which is located in the middle of Eastern Mediterranean Sea, has two political entities, one led by Greek Cypriots in the south and another led by Turkish Cypriots in the north, which became the Turkish Republic of North Cyprus (TRNC) in 1983, recognised only by Turkey.

With the latest move, the TRNC has signalled that Maras will regain its lost glory and people will once again call it the Las Vegas of the Mediterranean.

“Time has come to take a tangible step about the closed Maras [Varosha],” said Kudret Ozersay, Deputy Prime Minister and Foreign Minister of the TRNC, on Tuesday, after a cabinet meeting.

“No steps have been taken in regard to Maras' status until now. Such a step is about the future and our projects will be materialised more and more [in time],” said TRNC Prime Minister Ersin Tatar.

“South Cyprus [the Greek Cypriot Administration] could object to our decision, but at the end, Maras is under our governance. We will surely evaluate the situation along with the Republic of Turkey. What must be done will be done. This is the beginning,” Tatar added.

As expected, the Greek Cypriot Administration (GCA) protested the TRNC decision, finding it “completely unacceptable."

Maras used to be one of the favourite hangouts for major celebrities including Hollywood heartthrobs such as Elizabeth Taylor, Marilyn Monroe, Richard Burton and Brigitte Bardot.

Located in the southern part of the city of Gazimagusa (Famagusta), Maras had 45 hotels with a 10,000 capacity, 60 apartment hotels, 3,000 trade entities, 99 entertainment venues, and 21 banks, as well as 24 theaters, 25 museums and 4,649 private houses before it became a ghost city. It also had a medium-sized library with 8,500 books, which were in English, Greek and Turkish.

According to recent estimations, the redevelopment plan for the city could be around $10 billion.

“I think that [[the TRNC] step in regard to Maras] could facilitate a process, which could help overcome the existing status quo over the Cyprus issue,” said Mustafa Lakadamyali, Turkish Cypriot Ambassador, representing the TRNC in Washington, DC.

For more than 50 years, both Turkish and Greek Cypriots have negotiated with each other for a federation based on political equation with two communities and two regions, but they could not reach a concrete resolution because the Greek side does not want to share the island’s power and wealth with Cypriot Turks, according to Lakadamyali.

Greek Cypriots still claim to represent all the territories of Cyprus, even though Britain, Turkey and Greece are the guarantor states for the entire island, which was established in 1960 as the Republic of Cyprus. The area in the south of the island is run by Greek Cypriot Administration (GCA).

“GCA has continued to be benefited by the existing status quo through unilateral actions, using [the Cyprus] deadlock to their favour. In order to change things in Cyprus, this status quo should be shaken,” Lakadamyali told TRT World.

“The recent Maras initiative could do the job.”

In 1994, Cypriot Turks and Greeks discussed opening Maras to settlements in exchange for both sides using Lefkosa (Nicosia) International Airport as part of confidence building measures. But the talks eventually failed.

Maras has always been an important aspect of the Cyprus issue and both sides have aggressively negotiated the city’s political status under lands titles.

According to UN Security Council resolution 550, dated in 1984, Maras could only be opened to settlement to its original inhabitants, who were living there before 1974.

However, Tatar has assured that the property rights of Maras' migrants will be respected at any cost.

“The rights and interests of old owners and the Evkaf (an Islamic trust) will be taken into consideration when Maras opens,” Tatar said.

TRTWORLD 7 Oct 2020
https://www.trtworld.com/turkey/turkish ... sday-40346

Re: Doors open to Maraş/Verosha on Thursday

Posted: Wed 07 Oct 2020 5:16 am
by Deniz1
An obvious political move so close to the election but is it a safe one? I imagine there will be a large amount of people who will go there. Social distancing? Dont think so. We seemed to be getting on top of the virus but will that be the case now? Politics before health seems to be Tatars way.

Re: Doors open to Maraş/Verosha on Thursday

Posted: Wed 07 Oct 2020 5:23 am
by waddo
Soner, do you think they will let in the poor visitors from foreign lands now as well? So far bits have been opened but only to "Citizens".

Re: Doors open to Maraş/Verosha on Thursday

Posted: Wed 07 Oct 2020 6:22 am
by Keithcaley
I know what you mean Waddo - fine distinctions are often lost 'in translation', so that we are left wondering whether the term 'citizen' means 'Citizen' i.e. a kimlik card holder, or just 'someone with a permit to live here' - like us ;)

No doubt all will be made clear(er) in due course, as it was with the 'quarantine business' a few days ago...

Yavaş, Yavaş!

Re: Doors open to Maraş/Verosha on Thursday

Posted: Wed 07 Oct 2020 7:17 am
by Soner
Waddo, Can't see why anybody on this side of the island cannot enter. I do not think there will be a border. I believe only area opened is beach and new roads have been laid.
As Keithcaley states.... time will tell.

Re: Doors open to Maraş/Verosha on Thursday

Posted: Wed 07 Oct 2020 8:22 am
by MnM
I've never understood why the TC administration at any given time adhered to the UN resolution and kept Maras fenced off when they ignored most other UN resolutions.

Re: Doors open to Maraş/Verosha on Thursday

Posted: Wed 07 Oct 2020 8:41 am
by Keithcaley
MnM, I think that it was to use as a carrot, to dangle in front of the GCs - that didn't work , did it? :)

Re: Doors open to Maraş/Verosha on Thursday

Posted: Wed 07 Oct 2020 9:05 am
by wanderer
It ends up that GC's use it as a stick and call the North out for leaving it in a state of disrepair to taunt them and show how they are abused by the North
Better open it and invite the GC's property owners back as the North have

Re: Doors open to Maraş/Verosha on Thursday

Posted: Wed 07 Oct 2020 9:52 am
by MnM
I do know there are two claims on land ownership as it was originally charitable land under the Ottermans, but when the British colonised in 1925 they thought they owned the land, and sold a lot of it mainly to GC's. I suppose in the event of any settlement to the so-called "Cyprus Problem", that there will be similar claims on land in the North, originally owned by GC's and subsequently sold to whoever as exchange land, which is only recognised in the North.

Re: Doors open to Maraş/Verosha on Thursday

Posted: Wed 07 Oct 2020 11:41 am
by Reyntj
The lira like the turkish economy has tanked. This is just another distraction tactic gatnering support to rally round the flag. With so many agressive moves by turkey libya s400 armenia syria cyorus basucally all its neighbours iits a dangerous game to play. Its all they have left though so unlikely to stop anytime soon.

Re: Doors open to Maraş/Verosha on Thursday

Posted: Wed 07 Oct 2020 11:43 am
by Hedge-fund
MnM wrote:
Wed 07 Oct 2020 9:52 am
I do know there are two claims on land ownership as it was originally charitable land under the Ottermans, but when the British colonised in 1925 they thought they owned the land, and sold a lot of it mainly to GC's. I suppose in the event of any settlement to the so-called "Cyprus Problem", that there will be similar claims on land in the North, originally owned by GC's and subsequently sold to whoever as exchange land, which is only recognised in the North.
The land issues were fully agreed during the Montana talks with various levels of ownership stipulated.

The GC found an excuse to walk away from that so the adage remains 'nothing is agreed until everything is agreed'

Re: Doors open to Maraş/Verosha on Thursday

Posted: Wed 07 Oct 2020 11:54 am
by MnM
I agree.

Re: Doors open to Maraş/Verosha on Thursday

Posted: Wed 07 Oct 2020 12:04 pm
by wanderer
Efforts are underway to open Maraş. The opening of Maraş will be held from 11:00 tomorrow ... Before the opening, the door was opened to Maraş's Doctor Fazıl Küçük Stadium. A control cabin was placed next to the sliding door, which was installed by removing the wires in the morning. With the opening door; Demokrasi Street route will be opened for use and the coastline will be reached from this road. BRT

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Re: Doors open to Maraş/Verosha on Thursday

Posted: Wed 07 Oct 2020 12:08 pm
by paul90
Deniz1 wrote:
Wed 07 Oct 2020 5:16 am
An obvious political move so close to the election but is it a safe one? I imagine there will be a large amount of people who will go there. Social distancing? Dont think so. We seemed to be getting on top of the virus but will that be the case now? Politics before health seems to be Tatars way.
It is simply an electioneering ploy by Tatar, supported by Erdogan, to win votes in the presidential election this Sunday.
He has ben severely criticised by his own foreign minister "for trying to curry favour with the electorate."
Özersay, who made a statement on Cyprus Genç TV stated that “I did not know that Tatar was going to Ankara during his previous visit.”
And "The People’s Party (HP) coalition partner of the UBP announced it withdrew from the coalition saying that the party had been sidelined in important decision making."

Re: Doors open to Maraş/Verosha on Thursday

Posted: Wed 07 Oct 2020 7:20 pm
by rocking
Please take your rubbish home with you. I look at that beautiful coast and get very afraid if they ruin it with all rubbish like they do here in Trnc.

Re: Doors open to Maraş/Verosha on Thursday

Posted: Wed 07 Oct 2020 9:18 pm
by karmels
paul90
Be very causius what you write on open social media, l am a member of UBP and l know the polatitions read this web page.

Re: Doors open to Maraş/Verosha on Thursday

Posted: Thu 08 Oct 2020 8:20 am
by Hedge-fund
karmels wrote:
Wed 07 Oct 2020 9:18 pm
paul90
Be very causius what you write on open social media, l am a member of UBP and l know the polatitions read this web page.
He is using reported speech ie what has actually been said.

To opine that a politician is electioneering during an election campaign is to state a fact.

Even the KGB in their heyday couldn't find fault with what paul90 has posted.

Re: Doors open to Maraş/Verosha on Thursday

Posted: Thu 08 Oct 2020 9:05 am
by wanderer
One day out of a clear blue sky in 1974 we did nothing then this invasion happened and only us had to evacuate Its started with video to MEP's

https://cyprus-mail.com/2020/10/07/disy ... ith-video/

Re: Doors open to Maraş/Verosha on Thursday

Posted: Thu 08 Oct 2020 9:27 am
by Hedge-fund
Hedge-fund wrote:
Thu 08 Oct 2020 8:20 am
karmels wrote:
Wed 07 Oct 2020 9:18 pm
paul90
Be very causius what you write on open social media, l am a member of UBP and l know the polatitions read this web page.
He is using reported speech ie what has actually been said.

To opine that a politician is electioneering during an election campaign is to state a fact.

Even the KGB in their heyday couldn't find fault with what paul90 has posted.
The President seems to agree with paul90

https://www.lgcnews.com/turkey-interfer ... ns-akinci/