Kibkom North Cyprus Forum

Ertuğruloğlu: "The only option for the Turkish Cypriots is not to be a partner of the Greek Cypriots"

Minister of Foreign Affairs Tahsin Ertuğruloğlu stated that in the event that a negotiation ground is not established towards a solution in Geneva on the basis of sovereign equality, we will decide how to proceed in Cyprus together with Turkey which is the heart of the security and interests of the Turkish nation in the Eastern Mediterranean. Ertuğruloğlu added “The only option for the Turkish Cypriots is not to be a partner of the Greek Cypriots"

In his interview with the Turkish News Agency (TAK), regarding his expectations about the 5+UN unofficial meeting planned to be held in April, Minister Ertuğruloğlu said that he does not expect to experience anything different from the processes that have been carried out in various ways in the past 50 years. Upon reminding the "loose federation" discussions of the Greek Cypriot side and the UN Secretary General's statement "I am open to new ideas", Minister Ertuğruloğlu said "I hope I'm wrong but I think that the Greek Cypriot side will not give up this advantageous position regarding its unjust EU membership and unjust treatment as the ‘Republic of Cyprus’ at the UN Security Council.”

Furthermore, Minister Ertuğruloğlu stressed that in the event that a common ground to start the negotiation process is not established in Geneva, we will decide what to do together with motherland Turkey. “The Cyprus issue is a national cause and not only the cause of the Turkish Cypriots”.

Foreign Minister Tahsin Ertuğruloğlu also pointed out that the Turkish Cypriot side had been thrown out of the partnership by force of arms despite the fact that it was based on political equality, the Turkish Cypriot side has been negotiating for the goal of a bi-communal, bi-zonal federation based on political equality for 52 years.

Minister Ertuğruloğlu said, "It is naive to aim at only political equality because the results of the 1960 Republic are obvious. Why would the Greek Cypriots say yes to such a partnership in their current position?"

Noting that demanding a more strong ground which the Greek Cypriot side cannot disrupt and if it does, both sides will be able to take part in the international community with their own status, and that this is only possible with sovereign equality, Foreign Minister Tahsin Ertuğruloğlu said, “Therefore, our only option in life is not to be partners with the Greek Cypriots”.

Regarding the Maraş initiative, Ertuğruloğlu pointed out that it is not an initiative that affects any personal property, but that it will continue.

Minister Ertuğruloğlu said, "The important thing here is that Maraş will be opened under the Turkish administration. The Greek Cypriots can forget Maraş, which has always been proposed to them as a bargaining element in the negotiations. Those who now want to claim their property and live there will be allowed to come and live under the Turkish administration”.

Thank you very much Tartar Bey

You can guess where this is heading.

It seems that the only two countries in the World who want a two state solution are Turkey and the TRNC. Every other bit of news I read is an announcement from some foreign government or country that they are in complete support of the old bi zonal federation plan that has failed to be achieved (because of Greek Cypriot intransigence) for the last 50 years - yet they all think it will be a success this time!

I begin to wonder if the whole two seperate states thing is a con and that both Turkey (who will gain brownie points with the EU if they agree to the old federation plan) and the TRNC (who will at last receive international recognition) are just pushing the boundaries and proving that they mean business this time around!

Interesting times indeed. Raises the question of the TRNC being in the EU already, but moving into Turkey as Mersin 10, would it remain in the EU or would a part of Turkey become part of the EU, or would the EU throw TRNC out of the EU and if so for what reason?

This is all pre 5+1 posturing.

The 2 state solution was apparently seriously favoured by Anastasiades at Crans Montana and would quickly unlock energy reserves.

I do believe this has to be the last time the 2 sides negotiate and the signs are the UN accept this too.

In the event of another stalemate Northern Cyprus has to be recognised or it will be amalgamated into Turkey.

Ersin Tatar said that he won the Election on the promise of a two state solution which showed that the citizens favoured that policy.

When the Annan plan was being discussed the Turkish Cypriots were in favour of joining the EU because they wanted (or aspired to) to become European Citizens, hence why they voted the way they did, (amongst other reasons).

So does this mean the Turkish Cypriots now favour to go under the umbrella of Turkey and have lost their interest in the EU and follow the direction of Turkey and President Erdogan for him to have power, including the Arab and Muslim world.

I realise that all is not that simple.

Not looking good from both sides: https://cyprus-mail.com/2021/03/04/disy ... ederation/

The Akel boss spoke of an “alarming” trend.

“We are at ground zero, Turkey is escalating its aggression and intransigence and is attempting new facts on the ground which, if successful, will bring us very close to partition.”

The word "TRUTHS" seems to recognise that their own narrative has been less than truthful
Britain seems to be recognising that the current situation as the way forward
The EU is now stuck with two North South conflicts with their ineptitude on peoples rights

How long before we (cypriots) give up on things that have not worked so far and try something new and radical ? 50 years ? 100 ? 500 ?

New and radical

How about just a majority of us in all Cypriot communities by personal choice decide that we actually want a Cypriot nation that needs to be made up of both Greek and Turkish and other cultural elements in order to be Cypriot and not something else ?

Yeah I know I am naïve dreamer.

Sadly Erol you are?? Look at Eire and Northern Ireland, an uneasy peace and can't see it changing. The catalans in Spain, Palastine and ............... Can't see why both sides of the green line can't see the benefits of one Island BUT those in power on both sides just love the status quo !! Governments everywhere across the globe are made up of politicians who by there very nature are in it for themselves.

erol wrote: ↑

Fri 05 Mar 2021 10:48 am

How about just a majority of us in all Cypriot communities by personal choice decide that we actually want a Cypriot nation that needs to be made up of both Greek and Turkish and other cultural elements in order to be Cypriot and not something else ?

Yeah I know I am naïve dreamer.

History shows that forcing people who don’t want to live together co-habit never ends well.
The sad thing is I think the Cypriots have more in common than points of difference.
You’d like to think that when the generation that had any experience of 74 and before, even as a child, dies out there maybe a chance but sadly if Ireland is anything to go by then they talk about things that happened 300 years ago like they occurred last Tuesday.
I think Clinton committing America to help Ireland financially was a big push towards the Good Friday Agreement but imo the EU dropped the ball there by letting the a Greek side into the EU without making any compromises. You can’t get your kid to tidy up their room when you’ve already given them their ice cream.
I think there are too many people in power who are benefitting from the state of limbo continuing

erol wrote: ↑

Fri 05 Mar 2021 10:48 am

How about just a majority of us in all Cypriot communities by personal choice decide that we actually want a Cypriot nation that needs to be made up of both Greek and Turkish and other cultural elements in order to be Cypriot and not something else ?

Yeah I know I am naïve dreamer.

Very naive to think people will accept a majority vote by personal choice to decide their country's future.

Some will go on about it for years after calling the majority stupid and racist and didn't know what they were voting for.

And people accuse others of dragging brexit in to everything and call them remoaners !

Try reading what I actually wrote. Majority in all communities. There was not a majority in all nations that made up the UK. Under your system of how a countries future should be decided , enosis should have followed on from British colonial rule.

I try not to criticise what foreign countries decide on a fair vote as it's none of my business.