Kibkom North Cyprus Forum

I think that I have been given Sinovac.
Sinopharm is being accepted, from Friday, by the South, no PCR test required.
Looking at my card it just says Sars. Covid.
What is your opinion ref. freedom of movement?

Makes no difference to us Brits at all living in the North. Will still not be able to cross!

AFC wrote: ↑

Thu 20 May 2021 2:59 pm

Makes no difference to us Brits at all living in the North. Will still not be able to cross!

It states that everyone will be able to enter.

AFC,I can and I'm ba Brit,duel nationality

Our cards state “Sinovac” clearly! Has anyone in TRNC received “Sinopharm” vaccine? As I read through all reports, I can find no mention of “Sinopharm” vaccine used in the North! Yet another cunning ploy by the RoC?

CoronaVac is made by a company called Sinovac. Sinopharm is another company that has made a corona virus vaccine. The Sinopharm one has been approved by WHO for emergency use. The Sinovac vaccine (CoronaVac)is still waiting approval .

Thank you, am aware of the two companies that produce the Sino (means Chinese) vaccine derivatives, both of which are produced from an inactive (dead) virus, different to the others that contain elements of live virus. Apart from the results from Brazil which are debatable in any case, Sinovac is used to great - but not excellent - effect by many far eastern countries yet still awaits the final results of phase three testing. Probably due to the producing company being a private company and not (Chinese) state run - lots of political moves involved!

The question remains - has anyone any knowledge of Sinopharm being used in the TRNC?

waddo wrote: ↑

Fri 21 May 2021 7:21 am

The question remains - has anyone any knowledge of Sinopharm being used in the TRNC?

the TRNC was/is supplied with three different vaccines.
from Turkey Sinovac, about 140k doses. from EU Biontech, 20k doses and Astra, 10k doses.
no sinopharm.
maybe "in the pipeline" is SputnikV, also supplied from Turkey.

There is a british woman in Paphos in hospital with thrombosis after the astro zenica jab!

13roman58, thanks, that just confirms my thoughts on the happy, helpful Greek Cypriot side of the Island allowing "anyone" with a double dose of Sinopharm to cross the Green Line - lol.

The ROC accepting Sinopharm isn't a surprise after it was added to the list of acceptable vaccines by WHO.
What will be interesting is what they do if/when Sinovac is signed off by WHO.

steveodp, probably nothing - unless the EU sign it off as well then they will follow suit! Of course resident Brits still won't be able to go across for anything other than to fly away. Oh how I miss my McDonalds breakfast - lol.

The British woman in Paphos has unfortunately died in hospital RIP.

RIP indeed, but has it been proved that the vaccine was the cause. One person out of how many, how old was she, did she have any underlaying health issues. A bit early I would have thought to start casting aspersions.

The lady was 39 with no known problems.
The hospital is referring the case.

The sinovac vaccine has not been passed by the EU or the UK health boards. Until they are passed then the vaccine remains unrecognised

Perfect! An unrecognized vaccine for an unrecognized country. Thousands of people want to visit the Worlds biggest open prison, thousands more want to live in it and even more own property in it - yet here it is, still being argued over by politicians - jobs for life - sad!

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-news-l ... s-12321239

Further down this thread it says Sinovac has been approved for emergency use, sorry doing this on the iPad so can’t isolate just that bit

World Health Organisation approves Sinovac vaccine for emergency use

The Chinese-made jab is being made at a rate of around two billion doses per year and is among four domestic vaccines that have already been approved in China. 

A real-world study of the vaccine in Indonesia suggested it was 98% effective at preventing death and 96% effective at stopping hospital admissions as soon as seven days after the second dose, according to the country's health ministry. 

The emergency use listing is significant because it means the Sinovac vaccine could become part of the COVAX programme, used to supply jabs to poorer nations. 

The Sinovac jab is particularly useful because it can be stored easily - rather than needing to be kept at extremely low temperatures like some other vaccines - making it much more suitable for supplying to developing countries. 

ScubaBoy9 wrote: ↑

Tue 01 Jun 2021 4:59 pm

The emergency use listing is significant because it means the Sinovac vaccine could become part of the COVAX programme, used to supply jabs to poorer nations. 

and that was the reason why sinovac was approved.......
and... is Sinovac good enough for the variants alfa, beta, gamma and delta?
no results given here at all, at least i found nothing.
we will see...

Walesforever wrote: ↑

Tue 25 May 2021 11:07 am

The sinovac vaccine has not been passed by the EU or the UK health boards. Until they are passed then the vaccine remains unrecognised

Sinovac has now been approved by the WHO

13roman58 wrote: ↑

Wed 02 Jun 2021 5:16 am

Walesforever wrote: ↑

Tue 25 May 2021 11:07 am

The sinovac vaccine has not been passed by the EU or the UK health boards. Until they are passed then the vaccine remains unrecognised

Sinovac has now been approved by the WHO

the WHO approval is for countries who do not have or can not afford an own certifying body.
as the US, EU or UK.
the WHO approval has no direct consequences in these countries/areas.

Not approved yet in either the EU or the UK

A somewhat disturbing news item regarding sinovac has just appeared on LGC....

Health minister Ustal stated that those who have had 2 doses of Sinovac will get a dose of Biontech after 8 months.

13roman58 wrote: ↑

Wed 23 Jun 2021 9:54 am

Health minister Ustal stated that those who have had 2 doses of Sinovac will get a dose of Biontech after 8 months.

as basically most of the 2nd vaccinations till today were given in march/april, that means a third Biontech!! shot will be given from november/december 2021 onwards.
this applies for less of 17% of the population who are jabbed twice.
a further say, 5% are jabbed once. so, approx 75% did not even got a first jab.
as Delta is on the doorstep.... who still wants the thousands and thousands doses available (which did arrive recently) from sinovac, wait one month for the second dose and get a third jab in.... march 2022 ?

Had mine in March, at that time Sinovac was the only one available.
Thank you TRNC.
I will greatfully receive the Biontech October/
November
Hindsight was not a privilege at the time.

Had my 2nd Sinovac in February. Very grateful to the government and health service here. Will be very happy to have the Biontech in October or whenever available to me.

For me it is simple! Any vaccine, any time, anywhere, without a worry - AstraVenica aside - there are still people here who could have and should have been vaccinated already. But for their own reasons they have refused it, putting themselves and others at risk.

waddo wrote: ↑

Wed 23 Jun 2021 12:23 pm

and others at risk.

Surely if the vaccine works they are only putting others that haven’t had it at risk? If you’ve had it and are confident it works then why worry?

"If you’ve had it and are confident it works then why worry?"

I ceased worrying about myself many years ago. But I find it sad that people only worry about themselves without a thought for others - the standards of driving is one example of this and yet they can see no wrong in it, only see what others are doing to them!

As for confident it works - the older I get the less my confidence in anything is - but better to give it a chance I say.

"...putting others that haven’t had it at risk..." - there is a great difference between those who "haven’t had it" by choice, and those who "haven’t had it" because they have not had the opportunity - the former voluntarily accept/assume the risk, while the latter? Why should they be subject to others' selfishness?

Have been watching the current push in UK to inject the black, and other ethnic minorities in UK and am astounded as to the ignorance and misinformation still on social media. The Doctors who have a preponderance of such people as patients are doing their utmost to to counter this and are starting to overcome peoples fears. However I was disgusted with the Editors/Reporters who put forward question at the Downing Street briefing yesterday. "Why is the Government not doing more to persuade people who doubt the safety of the vaccines" I thought the three people at the briefing were extremely polite but it was obvious they wanted to shout out "Why the hell don't you, the leaders and influencers of your own people do more, instead of continually wingeing" The religious leaders of these people could also do a lot more, but all they do is complain and in many cases defend those who are refusing to be jabbed. Sadly it is still the black communities which lag behind the others. There has been an 86% increase in the last two weeks, which proves how low their figures were originally.