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Electricity and Alcohol Prices Reduced
Posted: Tue 05 Apr 2022 4:27 pm
by alphamike
Re: Electricity and Alcohol Prices Reduced
Posted: Tue 05 Apr 2022 4:31 pm
by alphamike
The Council of Ministers reduced the funding for alcoholic beverages.
For imported drinks, the fund per liter decreased from 50 TL to 25 TL.
According to this; A new regulation on alcohol hike: FUNDS ARE REDUCED: from 50 TL to 25 TL per liter for imported spirits, from 40 TL to 15 TL for local spirits, from 20 TL to 7 TL for wine, from 15 TL to 5 for beer. It drops from 17.5 TL to 6 TL for draft beer.
https://www.gundemkibris.com/kibris/alk ... 37542.html
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Making statements after the Council of Ministers, Prime Minister Faiz Sucuoğlu announced that the electricity unit prices were reduced after the reactions of the citizens.
The new figures announced by the Prime Minister that will be valid in the last bills received by the citizens are as follows:
0 – 250 units: 0.98 TL
250 – 500 units: decreases from 2.70 TL to 1.70 TL
501 – 750 units: Decreases from 2.95 to 2 TL
750 - 1000 units: decreases from 3.25 TL to 2.25 TL
On the other hand, Prime Minister Sucuoğlu stated that the electricity unit prices of all sectors were reduced from 2.70 TL to 1.70 TL and said, “If automatic payments are made, they will be set off”.
https://www.gundemkibris.com/kibris/ele ... 37541.html
Managed from another newspaper
Re: Electricity and Alcohol Prices Reduced
Posted: Tue 05 Apr 2022 4:50 pm
by Hair Cut
People Power....
I saw the demos in Lefkosia on Friday.
Re: Electricity and Alcohol Prices Reduced
Posted: Tue 05 Apr 2022 5:41 pm
by Brinsley
I can predict that no reductions will be reflected in bar/restaurant prices and supermarkets will be tardy in any tariff changes.
Re: Electricity and Alcohol Prices Reduced
Posted: Tue 05 Apr 2022 8:06 pm
by HotHippo
I've done some calculations, using the figure of 4,000 TL that I've heard that many people have received for their electricity use for the month of March.
Based on the published Kibtek tariff, this roughly equates to a usage of 1,400 Kws, and gives a total bill of 4.071.83 TL.
The newly-revised rates would reduce that bill to 3,054.33 TL.
The rates applicable for February would have meant that the bill would only have been 1,382.22 TL.
The people who were struggling, will still be struggling, as the increase from the February rates (for 1,400 Kws usage) at the newly-announced revised rates will still be massive, at 1,672.11 TL.
HH
Re: Electricity and Alcohol Prices Reduced
Posted: Tue 05 Apr 2022 8:21 pm
by alphamike
I think I would have had a heart attack if I'd had a bill of 4000TL or worse, as some of the figures I've heard about. Of course, it's folk with families, who will be using AC in more than one room at a time, have more washing, dishwashing than those of us who are couples or singles. Must be an absolute nightmare and a real worry.
I have no idea who came up with the initial figures, plucked from thin air I suspect, to see how much they could get away with. Or is it possible that the new reduced rates were the real rates thought of (and plucked from thin air), and putting them up higher, getting a huge reaction, would make people accept these new "reduced" rates that bit easier? Whatever, it does seem that ordinary folk and businesses are being forced to cough up for the non-payers with huge debts.
Re: Electricity and Alcohol Prices Reduced
Posted: Wed 06 Apr 2022 4:05 am
by forestpixie
Gas now 230tl
Re: Electricity and Alcohol Prices Reduced
Posted: Wed 06 Apr 2022 6:53 am
by Deniz1
I dont get why people have such high consumption my friend has a laundry with machines and tumble dryers working all day her bill was 800tl yesterday. My home bill was 266tl ok I dont have a pool or dishwasher but everything else.
Re: Electricity and Alcohol Prices Reduced
Posted: Wed 06 Apr 2022 7:33 am
by benjaminbutton
I am envious Deniz, I consider that I'm mean re consumption and warn anyone coming to the house, that it is a cold house with heating in only the Living/Dining room with floor to ceiling curtains either end to keep heat in that room only. Only put washing machine on when its full, same with dishwasher. There is a pool, which rarely gets used. Have stopped putting outside lights on and other savings, but still had a bill of over 2000tl if you believe SMS or 1,760 if you believe Paypoint System.!
Re: Electricity and Alcohol Prices Reduced
Posted: Wed 06 Apr 2022 7:53 am
by Reyntj
My bill was 3565 tl which was the minimum I was expecting but we used Aircon to heat and it was on 24/7 in lounge or bedroom as of the cold. Not using it at all now so expect my usage to be half .if the reduced bill comes to c 2700 tl I will take that and expect it to half whilst not using Aircon. Agree with others they won't be rushing to reduce the prices ...
Re: Electricity and Alcohol Prices Reduced
Posted: Wed 06 Apr 2022 1:22 pm
by Keithcaley
Re: Electricity and Alcohol Prices Reduced
Posted: Thu 07 Apr 2022 8:09 am
by kibsolar1999
I fished something out of the TC net...
- the share of fuel costs in the electricity price is 72%, the other fixed costs are 28%.
note: as far as i understood these costs does not include investments.
- When the price of electricity was set at 2.7 TL, fuel costs were 33% lower as today.
- Kibtek has to buy the (private) Aksa electricity (which a previous government "forced" them to buy with fixed purchase quantities) for 2.30 kWh (plus that maybe not quite 28% anymore).
so, that seem to be the "real costs" (incl profit for Aksa)
- means, roughly: with the new discounts (since the first 250 kWh/month cost one lira and then 1,70TL, 2,25.... ), kibtek sells the electricity for about half the cost, which means that enormous deficits will accumulate by the end of the year
in total predicted to be about 2.4 billion TL = 150 million euros, about half of all deficits in the state budget (2.4 billion kibtek, then a total of 4.6 billion TL, a total of about 280 million euros)
this naturally raises questions.
- where does the money come from to subsidize kibtek?
- where does the money come from to finance the next load of fuel?
the finance minister has already said that he has no money for either.
- where else is the money supposed to come from?
and
- who decided on these discounts and on what basis?
Re: Electricity and Alcohol Prices Reduced
Posted: Thu 07 Apr 2022 4:54 pm
by susiesusie
Been to 3 supermarkets today. No sign of booze reduction.. how surprising is that !
Re: Electricity and Alcohol Prices Reduced
Posted: Thu 07 Apr 2022 5:06 pm
by Brazen
kibsolar1999 wrote: ↑Thu 07 Apr 2022 8:09 am
I fished something out of the TC net...
- the share of fuel costs in the electricity price is 72%, the other fixed costs are 28%.
note: as far as i understood these costs does not include investments.
- When the price of electricity was set at 2.7 TL, fuel costs were 33% lower as today.
- Kibtek has to buy the (private) Aksa electricity (which a previous government "forced" them to buy with fixed purchase quantities) for 2.30 kWh (plus that maybe not quite 28% anymore).
so, that seem to be the "real costs" (incl profit for Aksa)
- means, roughly: with the new discounts (since the first 250 kWh/month cost one lira and then 1,70TL, 2,25.... ), kibtek sells the electricity for about half the cost, which means that enormous deficits will accumulate by the end of the year
in total predicted to be about 2.4 billion TL = 150 million euros, about half of all deficits in the state budget (2.4 billion kibtek, then a total of 4.6 billion TL, a total of about 280 million euros)
this naturally raises questions.
- where does the money come from to subsidize kibtek?
- where does the money come from to finance the next load of fuel?
the finance minister has already said that he has no money for either.
- where else is the money supposed to come from?
and
- who decided on these discounts and on what basis?
They will be on the phone to,Erdogan of course!
Re: Electricity and Alcohol Prices Reduced
Posted: Thu 07 Apr 2022 6:06 pm
by alphamike
susiesusie wrote: ↑Thu 07 Apr 2022 4:54 pm
Been to 3 supermarkets today. No sign of booze reduction.. how surprising is that !
If you are east side, have a look in at Wines of the World. I was in there on Tuesday, and they had only put Mollys up by 15TL a bottle. Girl told me they had to put up spirits by 50TL, but they hadn't put them up further like some supermarkets. Can't say if they have brought prices down since the reduction.
Re: Electricity and Alcohol Prices Reduced
Posted: Thu 07 Apr 2022 10:12 pm
by alphamike
https://www.yeniduzen.com/zam-indirimle ... 51489h.htm
Raise discounts not legalized
The government's decision on electricity and alcohol price hike reductions has not yet been published in the Official Gazette, nor has it become legal.The Council of Ministers, on Tuesday, April 5, took a step back in the price hikes in electricity and alcohol, as a result of the public's reaction, and reduced the price hike.The FIF was lowered in alcohol, and the new tariff was shared by reducing the price hikes in electricity. Although three days have passed and 3 different Official Gazettes have been published, these decisions have not yet been published in the Official Gazette.The decisions taken by the Council of Ministers must be published in the Official Gazette in order to become legal.
Re: Electricity and Alcohol Prices Reduced
Posted: Fri 08 Apr 2022 9:27 am
by forestpixie
alphamike wrote: ↑Thu 07 Apr 2022 10:12 pm
https://www.yeniduzen.com/zam-indirimle ... 51489h.htm
Raise discounts not legalized
The government's decision on electricity and alcohol price hike reductions has not yet been published in the Official Gazette, nor has it become legal.The Council of Ministers, on Tuesday, April 5, took a step back in the price hikes in electricity and alcohol, as a result of the public's reaction, and reduced the price hike.The FIF was lowered in alcohol, and the new tariff was shared by reducing the price hikes in electricity. Although three days have passed and 3 different Official Gazettes have been published, these decisions have not yet been published in the Official Gazette.The decisions taken by the Council of Ministers must be published in the Official Gazette in order to become legal.
I was about to post the same thing, if its not written it doesn't exist!
Re: Electricity and Alcohol Prices Reduced
Posted: Fri 08 Apr 2022 12:09 pm
by Hair Cut
Bestmar, dropped a 5-liter box of wine by 94 lira.
Re: Electricity and Alcohol Prices Reduced
Posted: Fri 08 Apr 2022 4:02 pm
by alphamike
Apparently the reason the discounts are not in the Gazette, is that the team dealing with it, all have covid.
https://www.yeniduzen.com/sucuoglu-ekip ... 51528h.htm
Re: Electricity and Alcohol Prices Reduced
Posted: Fri 15 Apr 2022 10:00 am
by forestpixie
New announcement from PM on his holiday in Ankara... new rate applies to March only bill...go figure. Will it be in the Resmi Gazette who knows?
Re: Electricity and Alcohol Prices Reduced
Posted: Fri 15 Apr 2022 10:02 am
by forestpixie
Re: Electricity and Alcohol Prices Reduced
Posted: Fri 15 Apr 2022 10:02 am
by forestpixie
I know I said holiday oops I meant to say business trip hahaha
Re: Electricity and Alcohol Prices Reduced
Posted: Fri 15 Apr 2022 12:36 pm
by Deniz1
I paid my March bill two days ago no discount.
Re: Electricity and Alcohol Prices Reduced
Posted: Fri 15 Apr 2022 3:24 pm
by alphamike
Deniz1 wrote: ↑Fri 15 Apr 2022 12:36 pm
I paid my March bill two days ago no discount.
The discount is supposedly to be sorted out in next months bill.....we shall see. Am expecting next months bill to be a bit lower anyway, as not been using AC.
Re: Electricity and Alcohol Prices Reduced
Posted: Fri 15 Apr 2022 3:25 pm
by alphamike
forestpixie wrote: ↑Fri 15 Apr 2022 10:00 am
New announcement from PM on his holiday in Ankara... new rate applies to March only bill...go figure. Will it be in the Resmi Gazette who knows?
Honestly, the rules change at the drop of a hat with this lot.
Re: Electricity and Alcohol Prices Reduced
Posted: Fri 15 Apr 2022 7:34 pm
by forestpixie
I wouldn't mind but unless written in the Gazette they are just thoughts
Re: Electricity and Alcohol Prices Reduced
Posted: Sat 16 Apr 2022 8:51 am
by Trigger
So what are the current tariffs? (No pun intended)
Re: Electricity and Alcohol Prices Reduced
Posted: Sat 16 Apr 2022 9:47 am
by forestpixie
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The last column şimdi was the march price, so for future bills look at 2nd column zamlı
Re: Electricity and Alcohol Prices Reduced
Posted: Sat 16 Apr 2022 10:27 am
by Trigger
forestpixie wrote: ↑Sat 16 Apr 2022 9:47 am
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The last column şimdi was the march price, so for future bills look at 2nd column zamlı
Thanks… even though I don’t fully understand it
Re: Electricity and Alcohol Prices Reduced
Posted: Sat 16 Apr 2022 12:38 pm
by benjaminbutton
Does this mean we're down to using dish washer etc, during the night again.
Re: Electricity and Alcohol Prices Reduced
Posted: Sat 16 Apr 2022 2:13 pm
by alphamike
benjaminbutton wrote: ↑Sat 16 Apr 2022 12:38 pm
Does this mean we're down to using dish washer etc, during the night again.
No, there is no "cheap" night rate any more. Rate that you pay goes by units used, only first 250 units is at 0.98 and then increases in stages.
Re: Electricity and Alcohol Prices Reduced
Posted: Sat 16 Apr 2022 5:37 pm
by forestpixie
benjaminbutton wrote: ↑Sat 16 Apr 2022 12:38 pm
Does this mean we're down to using dish washer etc, during the night again.
I'd prefer it if we did
Re: Electricity and Alcohol Prices Reduced
Posted: Sun 17 Apr 2022 3:18 am
by Trigger
alphamike wrote: ↑Sat 16 Apr 2022 2:13 pm
benjaminbutton wrote: ↑Sat 16 Apr 2022 12:38 pm
Does this mean we're down to using dish washer etc, during the night again.
No, there is no "cheap" night rate any more. Rate that you pay goes by units used, only first 250 units is at 0.98 and then increases in stages.
Is that for each day?
Re: Electricity and Alcohol Prices Reduced
Posted: Sun 17 Apr 2022 7:10 am
by alphamike
Trigger wrote: ↑Sun 17 Apr 2022 3:18 am
Is that for each day?
No, it's on a monthly basis. First 250 KW's you use is charged at 0.98TL per unit. Then it jumps to 2.7 TL per unit until you use 500 KWs, and so on.
Re: Electricity and Alcohol Prices Reduced
Posted: Thu 21 Apr 2022 3:07 pm
by mitsybrian
Just been informed Effs beer up 3tl to 5tl from Monday 25/4/22, Price Reduced total Joke
Re: Electricity and Alcohol Prices Reduced
Posted: Thu 21 Apr 2022 6:25 pm
by frugal90
I thought it was about 15tl a bottle?