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Economic doom spiral

Posted: Wed 02 Oct 2024 7:24 pm
by frugal90
With the rise in minimum wage pushing inflation the trnc is stuck in an economic doom spiral. You can't keep raising prices by 20% every few months. We are doomed! Solutions??

Who makes these decisions, are they completely economically illiterate?

Re: Economic doom spiral

Posted: Thu 03 Oct 2024 4:52 am
by Reyntj
It was ok when the tl depreciated by the same amount..

This year wages have risen 45%
$ tl the main import currency has only depreciated by 13%....

A net 32% increase in foreign currency terms

Its self inflicted inflation and an abject failure of the goverment to control prices especially fruit & veg imported from turkey where a few are making huge sums of money.

Surely erdogan has signed off these rises & i have been told he is behind the new property rules & taxes..he must have had input is my guess.

Perhaps Games are afoot that are yet to play out. Or its just wreckless goverment and economic doom awaits. Cant help feeling the fancy car drivers will all be alright.

Re: Economic doom spiral

Posted: Thu 03 Oct 2024 8:58 am
by Keithcaley
Reyntj, given that the approach to financial controls by Turkiye is viewed as contrary to conventional thinking, and is considered to have resulted in the devaluation of the TL, kickstarting the inflationary spiral that we are now experiencing - I would not have a lot of faith in the success of any 'Masterplan' emanating from the same source...

Of course, if the intent is to make TRNC ever more dependent on handouts from Turkiye, then I could be wrong!

Re: Economic doom spiral

Posted: Thu 03 Oct 2024 9:26 am
by benjaminbutton
Turkiye was discussed fully on the early BBC business section. The 50% interest appears to have steadied and it was suggested by the UK interviewer that E=====n might not be interfering as much as previously. Obviously much more was discussed including how the Turkish TL affects the periphery . One assumes that was a reference to us.

Re: Economic doom spiral

Posted: Thu 03 Oct 2024 9:31 am
by Reyntj
Yes keith i agree with your last point.

Re: Economic doom spiral

Posted: Thu 03 Oct 2024 9:43 am
by benjaminbutton
I agree, he who pays the piper calls the tune. Anyone for advanced Turkish language lessons?

Re: Economic doom spiral

Posted: Thu 03 Oct 2024 11:50 am
by frugal90
The TL has stabilised do to increases in interest rates.

Re: Economic doom spiral

Posted: Thu 03 Oct 2024 11:51 am
by frugal90
In fact less that 45 TL to £1 today as projected decrease in interest rates in the uk

Re: Economic doom spiral

Posted: Thu 03 Oct 2024 1:12 pm
by Charlieboy
Erdogan has ruined the country economically when I first came here it was one of the most up and coming countries with a good stable currencies

Re: Economic doom spiral

Posted: Thu 03 Oct 2024 1:22 pm
by benjaminbutton
Yes same here, and HSBC were offering 22 - 24+ % on saving accounts. How times change.

Re: Economic doom spiral

Posted: Thu 03 Oct 2024 2:55 pm
by Charlieboy
Was 2.7 L to the pound in ,2007

Re: Economic doom spiral

Posted: Thu 03 Oct 2024 6:47 pm
by Kanonier
It's gone down considerably from when I came here in 1999, it was millions to the pound then.🤔😉

Re: Economic doom spiral

Posted: Fri 04 Oct 2024 10:28 am
by gates
It went under 2 at one point

Re: Economic doom spiral

Posted: Sat 12 Oct 2024 3:17 pm
by benjaminbutton
Thinking of pootling over to Turkey for a few days. Im assuming I should take sterling with me and change over there, or if anyone has been there lately, are restaurants and retail outlets asking for foreign currency automatically. Someone today suggested I take Euros but I don't want to exchange twice.

Re: Economic doom spiral

Posted: Sun 13 Oct 2024 8:33 am
by tutor4u
Thinking of pootling over to Turkey for a few days. Im assuming I should take sterling with me and change over there
Just come back from Izmir, use TL.

Re: Economic doom spiral

Posted: Sun 13 Oct 2024 10:00 am
by TAC
take TL change it here you get a much better rate then over in Türkiye

Re: Economic doom spiral

Posted: Sun 13 Oct 2024 12:11 pm
by benjaminbutton
Many thanks for that.

Re: Economic doom spiral

Posted: Sun 13 Oct 2024 3:40 pm
by waddo
Reyntj, I am confused, you state that this year wages have risen by 45% - how do you get that figure please? In January the minimum wage went up by 52%, in May the new minimum wage went up by 22.98 and then in September it went up again by 19.98. That is a total rise in minimum wage of 94.88%. Those figures are gross of course so you would have to take the net figures which I do not keep, surely the Social has not gone up by 49.88% as well??

Re: Economic doom spiral

Posted: Sun 13 Oct 2024 4:37 pm
by frugal90
Of course it’s not quite as simple as adding each of the %age rises together, there is the cumulative effect of %age on %age!!!

Re: Economic doom spiral

Posted: Mon 14 Oct 2024 5:00 am
by Reyntj
Waddo i was comparing against tl depreciation & therefore the first rise on 1 jan is matched against last years tl depreciation and inflation and hence not included in my comparison. Salaries are increased retrospectively against inflation. So the comparison for the full year will include the next salary rise but not the first of the year .

Re: Economic doom spiral

Posted: Mon 14 Oct 2024 8:41 am
by waddo
OK, now understand, thanks for that.