If You Could????

topten · Post by **topten** » Wed 25 Mar 2015 6:04 am

The expats who are living on a permanent basis in North Cyprus and have been there longer than 2yrs,if you could sell your property easily, and move back to the UK would you? Be honest! because I lived there for nearly 8yrs and people used to ask me this and I would reply "Never" but towards the end of my time there I began to hate it. Not being able to rely on tap water having to carry your drinking water etc. the friends we found in Cyprus are what we miss most not the Island, sun or anything else. And as I was reading other threads where some people are obviously upset about Cyprus and others are defensive about the island way of life, as was I up until 2yrs ago, I just wondered how many "never's" would secretly like to sell up and come home. -

Groucho · Post by **Groucho** » Wed 25 Mar 2015 6:27 am

I guess there's the rub - if you never considered Cyprus your home you'd always secretly be hankering for a return to somewhere you could call home....

I can hand on heart and having lived here for ten years say - I still have no desire to return to the UK.

Everyday I read the news from the UK and nothing changes that opinion.... Life here throws up challenges but I don't think any of them are game changers. Who knows what the future brings? We may move on and would like to travel but we are happier here than we would be in the UK - we know because it's not like we haven't tried that.

If all the things that are available in the UK were available here this place would be ruined....

Deniz1 · Post by **Deniz1** » Wed 25 Mar 2015 6:32 am

Sums it up for me Groucho I am into my 13th years here never been back to the uk and have no desire to.I have been very lucky here have my kocan endless water too. recently read a uk paper given by a friend how depressing! Here is HOME.

ttoli · Post by **ttoli** » Wed 25 Mar 2015 7:36 am

Groucho wrote:I guess there's the rub - if you never considered Cyprus your home you'd always secretly be hankering for a return to somewhere you could call home....

I can hand on heart and having lived here for ten years say - I still have no desire to return to the UK.

Everyday I read the news from the UK and nothing changes that opinion.... Life here throws up challenges but I don't think any of them are game changers. Who knows what the future brings? We may move on and would like to travel but we are happier here than we would be in the UK - we know because it's not like we haven't tried that.

If all the things that are available in the UK were available here this place would be ruined....

Same sentiments exactly , this is now my home so I accept it all , friends and colleagues that mocked me for leaving the UK 10 years ago, giving up a good career with the Police , selling the family home in the Kent countryside etc etc, now envy me .

topten · Post by **topten** » Wed 25 Mar 2015 7:41 am

Groucho wrote:I guess there's the rub - if you never considered Cyprus your home you'd always secretly be hankering for a return to somewhere you could call home....

I can hand on heart and having lived here for ten years say - I still have no desire to return to the UK.

Everyday I read the news from the UK and nothing changes that opinion.... Life here throws up challenges but I don't think any of them are game changers. Who knows what the future brings? We may move on and would like to travel but we are happier here than we would be in the UK - we know because it's not like we haven't tried that.

If all the things that are available in the UK were available here this place would be ruined....

"Your rub" as you put it is right, and that is how we thought of Cyprus it is/was our home, but we were never made to feel at home by Government "officials" Muhtar's and so on for ever moving the goalpost's. Yes after 4yrs you can apply for permanent residency, oh yes when? answer never because they can increase the cost of temporary residency costs yearly. And find for ever new ways to "steal" more money from expats, am I bitter, no not really because I did have some great years in Cyprus. But I do believe that a lot of people that are from the UK south cannot afford to return home to their regions, because they could not replicate properties sold when going to Cyprus.

elkiton · Post by **elkiton** » Wed 25 Mar 2015 8:29 am

I think there is a large difference between using your words returning "home" and my words which would be "moving on". "Home" for many ex-pats is where they make it, here or anywhere else, for as long as they choose.
Yes, a proportion of (non swallow / holidaymakers) living here will go back to the UK where they have family, or to a life where they remember some of the "better" days, when they stop roaming; but there are many others who view countries other than the UK as a home, and it's worth joining some of the forums outside the UK and Cyprus to see their comments and impressions of the 20+ or so places that ex-pats live..
So perhaps there might be different answers if the question were to be re-worded to suggest that people were being restrained by a no-sale "here" instead of being free to travel to "there" and achieve their aims?

Retired · Post by **Retired** » Wed 25 Mar 2015 8:32 am

I observe that most of the people who post on Kibkom seem to praise the merits of life there. I know quite a few people who would like sell up in TRnC and return to the UK, but are not able to do so at the moment. I have been visiting TRNC for almost 20 years now, bought a small place 11 years ago, but have never lived there. Used to think I would like to do, but have seen so many changes, especially over the past 11 years, I don't have that desire now.

Will be interesting to read further as I don't live in the UK either, but do have a interest to return there at some stage.

Groucho · Post by **Groucho** » Wed 25 Mar 2015 8:44 am

topten wrote: I do believe that a lot of people that are from the UK south cannot afford to return home to their regions, because they could not replicate properties sold when going to Cyprus.

If that was what they always wanted to do then their move to Cyprus was never really in their heart... it was always just stop-gap at best.

Don't worry, in the UK they steal your money too (and in larger quantities) it's just that it's either very stealthily done by corrupt self-serving local 'worthies' and politicians and the like or even worse it's all official.... Tax, NI, Rates, VAT, Death duties, and Excise at every turn.

If you want all the things the UK offers why would move here - if you don't want all those things then why would you move back. We can't all have our cake and eat it too....

If you want validation of your choice to return to the UK then do it by living your life there to the full..... Not sure why you need input from those who remain here - living the life Cyprus offers.

mrsgee · Post by **mrsgee** » Wed 25 Mar 2015 8:48 am

Have lived here for 6 years, yes there are some irritating aspects, but there are irritating aspects everywhere in the world. Never say never, of course, but at the moment we are very happy here. Maybe don't see us staying here til the end of our days, but at this point in time the only thing we miss about UK is family and friends, who are only a plane journey away. From here, if we decided to up roots again, it would be to another mediterranean country, not the UK. Yes, people can find lots to complain about here, and probably will find lots to complain about in UK. I was just thinking only the other day, yes lots of unfinished shells of properties here, which are an eyesore, but at least they are not filled with graffiti, druggies, alcoholics or squatters. So, at the end of the day horses for courses, it's wrong to keep trying to make comparisons, just choose which suits you best and enjoy the life you choose.

elizabeth · Post by **elizabeth** » Wed 25 Mar 2015 9:04 am

mrsgee wrote:Have lived here for 6 years, yes there are some irritating aspects, but there are irritating aspects everywhere in the world. Never say never, of course, but at the moment we are very happy here. Maybe don't see us staying here til the end of our days, but at this point in time the only thing we miss about UK is family and friends, who are only a plane journey away. From here, if we decided to up roots again, it would be to another mediterranean country, not the UK. Yes, people can find lots to complain about here, and probably will find lots to complain about in UK. I was just thinking only the other day, yes lots of unfinished shells of properties here, which are an eyesore, but at least they are not filled with graffiti, druggies, alcoholics or squatters. So, at the end of the day horses for courses, it's wrong to keep trying to make comparisons, just choose which suits you best and enjoy the life you choose.

My thoughts exactly

PapaBravo · Post by **PapaBravo** » Wed 25 Mar 2015 9:40 am

topten,

Not being able to rely on tap water having to carry your drinking water etc.

Where do you live? In Catalkoy we have no problems with tap water, and I have a water purifier under the sink which provides clean drinking water to my water cooler and to a tap on the sink - so no more heavy bottles to carry. There are always problems in life, you just have to seek solutions. After 6 years I still love it.

Retired · Post by **Retired** » Wed 25 Mar 2015 10:08 am

Just listening to BBC Breakfast. A guy who is a regular, definitely a southerner, lives in London, has just said the best place for him to live would be the Ribble Valley in Lancashire. Can you believe it..that's where I am from and I left there almost 40 years ago! Must say it is a stunning place, when the sun shines (haha), people are very friendly. Maybe I should look to return...one day. Seems there is a test on BBC website.

squashmad · Post by **squashmad** » Wed 25 Mar 2015 10:10 am

I'm with Groucho all the way with all his comments.

We have been here in excess of 12 years and would not dream of moving back to UK as the old song goes 'wherever I lay my hat that's my home'. Trouble is many do not believe whole heartedly in this, yes there are problems but there are many in any country you choose to live in and UK is not better.

Ragged Robin · Post by **Ragged Robin** » Wed 25 Mar 2015 10:22 am

Because of the loss of a lot of my savings intended for health care,I am having to contemplate returning to the UK for the tender mercies of the NHS, but after 18 years here, and despite my bitter disappointment at the changes in the last 10 years, it is breaking my heart to think of leaving.

Retired · Post by **Retired** » Wed 25 Mar 2015 11:24 am

Healthcare is an important issue Ragged Robin - situations change with age and the state of our health. You have no doubt had some lovely years there, and had the advantage of the years before 2004...so you will have some wonderful memories to take with you.

SELECT · Post by **SELECT** » Wed 25 Mar 2015 11:46 am

Retired wrote:Just listening to BBC Breakfast. A guy who is a regular, definitely a southerner, lives in London, has just said the best place for him to live would be the Ribble Valley in Lancashire. Can you believe it..that's where I am from and I left there almost 40 years ago! Must say it is a stunning place, when the sun shines (haha), people are very friendly. Maybe I should look to return...one day. Seems there is a test on BBC website.

Lancashire ... I agree. Trough-of-Bowland, when the sun is shining.

Retired · Post by **Retired** » Wed 25 Mar 2015 11:51 am

Fish Pie for lunch at the Inn at Whitewell in the Trough! Duchy of Lancaster land..even she said she would like to retire there! I am now searching out properties..just for an exercise..

RAZR63 · Post by **RAZR63** » Wed 25 Mar 2015 11:59 am

Retired wrote:I observe that most of the people who post on Kibkom seem to praise the merits of life there. I know quite a few people who would like sell up in TRnC and return to the UK, but are not able to do so at the moment. I have been visiting TRNC for almost 20 years now, bought a small place 11 years ago, but have never lived there. Used to think I would like to do, but have seen so many changes, especially over the past 11 years, I don't have that desire now.

Will be interesting to read further as I don't live in the UK either, but do have a interest to return there at some stage.

The UK and rest of the world have also changed in the last 11 years, it's called evolution..... Why would you it expect it to remain the same after 11 years? Of course there are other places in the world that one can move onto .

Retired · Post by **Retired** » Wed 25 Mar 2015 12:10 pm

Nothing stays the same as you say- and I wouldn't expect it to do. Your observation is correct that I can move on to other countries, I am very lucky in that respect, and I have lived in a few over the years.

Hedge-fund · Post by **Hedge-fund** » Wed 25 Mar 2015 12:38 pm

It's very much reflective of personal state of mind and personal circumstances. Two people can look at the same thing and see entirely different objects.

Take a deserted sandy beach.

One person will see an oasis with the sea lapping the golden shores and head for the water to swim.

Another will see a gritty burning sand with no shade and the water will be too cold anyway.

I think the original poster was "done" with TRNC. Hopefully they have some good memories and we wish them well in the future.

Personally I love it - warts and all.

So those leaving.............bye.

Those staying...........Hi.........make mine a small cold effes please

Angiebaby · Post by **Angiebaby** » Wed 25 Mar 2015 3:50 pm

We have lived in the UK and the US and spent most of our life here for the last few years returning to either of those two places to live fills me with fear and dread. Both countries have lost the plot. Stay here please warts an all. Enjoy the real food and cheap wine with sunshine thrown in.

Ragged Robin · Post by **Ragged Robin** » Wed 25 Mar 2015 4:05 pm

I think North Cyprus is a place you either love or hate (sometimes both at once!) If you really dont take to it and can't laugh (in the nicest way) at it sometimes it is better to accept that and leave. For me it is home and England will be a strange country. As for other countries - anyone suggest a warm one that speaks English, I still struggle with Turkish, I am too old to tackle another language and not understanding he language at all is a big handicap to start with!

mikelapta · Post by **mikelapta** » Wed 25 Mar 2015 4:57 pm

10 years permanent,3 years before holıdays and fındıng home here..Loved the fırst 5 or so years...Bıt lıke Dısneyland,but vısıtıng Karpaz,ugh now that ıs beıng spoılt by mega complexes,Oh for the old road stoppıng to admıre the scenery,wıld bırds and numerous orchıds and flowers.You are proud to show your vısıtors Bellapaıs.St Hılarıon and Kantara,take them to Lefkoşa,and see Ledra street...Now,yawn,been there,done that !!!I vısıted Istanbul so many tımes,(stıll my favourıte cıty ın the World)and even many lovely breaks ın Ukraıne,Odessa,Kıev..that ıs gettıng raped now.My house ıs for sale,because I have had enough!!!No not back to UK,mıss Wales but not the weather.I had 2 fantastıc holıdays ın Phılıppınes.I am goıng there !!Inshallah.Maın reasons:superb beaches and scenery,fantastıc fıshıng ın sea and rıvers,unlıke here.Superb food,mm lechon,a lıttle pıg stuffed wıth allsorts,coated ın honey and bbq'd.Fresh fısh of all kınds,shrımps,prawns caught that day(or caught by yourself).Cost of lıvıng;25% of that here !!!Fınally,lots of choıce to fınd a wıfe !!!!It ıs accepted by all for a young Fılıpına to have a mature European as bf.(I've seen ıt,experıenced ıt,and aware of the dangers...Phıls ıs NOT Thaıland)I have trıed here unsuccesfully to fınd a suıtable partner...seems Brıtısh women fall for the charms of the Turkıshman...3P's.....Purse,Passport and Pussy !!!I wıll mıss my frıends here,my garden and um um...thats all

JBA · Post by **JBA** » Wed 25 Mar 2015 5:32 pm

Mikelapta

I agree with much of what you say about the Philippines but how can you ignore the crime level there. Every 7/11 and petrol station has it's armed guard and there were 7 of them (5 with shotguns and 2 with machine pistols) as they filled the ATM at my hotel. Any house of value is surrounded by a 10ft wall topped with razor wire and often with a Doberman or two running around. 44 police recently killed in a raid on Islamist extremists. How can you relax in that environment - beautiful beaches or not?

Better to find your Filipina and bring her here to relative safety.

mikelapta · Post by **mikelapta** » Wed 25 Mar 2015 5:45 pm

JBA agree wıth comments...yes choosıng rıght cıty,town ıs essentıal.For example,I could never lıve ın Manıla,or Muslım ıslands...or ındeed coast hıt by typhoons.I am chattıng to a lady,Uncle ıs Mayor,brother ıs Chıef ın Polıce.another Uncle ıs fısherman,never had typhoon..Oh she ısnt bad eıther !!Prevıous holıdays were outsıde Cebu,never saw any crıme !!

TheSaints · Post by **TheSaints** » Wed 25 Mar 2015 6:50 pm

Been here 7 years and would not sell up especially not to go to the UK this is home now and will remain so.

Retired · Post by **Retired** » Wed 25 Mar 2015 7:02 pm

OMG - mega complexes in Karpaz...is that really the case now? Although it took hours to get to the Karpaz a few years ago..would rather have that than mega complexes there. Evolution be blowed!

Good luck in your ventures Mike..they say the only things you regret in life are the things you don't do. Please be careful along the way.

kevyk · Post by **kevyk** » Wed 25 Mar 2015 7:43 pm

I like it here it is at best a very relaxing place to live compared to many places in the world. There are faults and I think you just got to get on with them. Cypriots on the whole are very kind and friendly while some are cold and belive Cyprus is the world. But hey! its still better than many places so glad to be here.

turtle · Post by **turtle** » Wed 25 Mar 2015 7:45 pm

Having spent the last 10 years holidaying in NC and as I get older the thought of spending more time over there is often on my mind but not sure if I could move permantantly.
Really love the place the pace of life, climate and some of the nice eating places but you people that live there....what do you do with your days ?
When you have got to know the place and visited and explored most places what is there left to do with your time ?

I am told a lot of people end up in bars quite a lot through boredom , so what do you all do day in day out ?

rocking · Post by **rocking** » Wed 25 Mar 2015 8:43 pm

Been in Cyprus 30 yrs now. When I first came it was nothing to have 12 hrs or more power cuts, water shortages for days. No proper roads I could go on and on. It has changed dramatically and I think not always for the better. I look at escape to the country on the tv and there are so many beautiful places in the UK, then sometimes i see a picture and think "what a fantastic place" and realise it's a view in Cyprus. I go back to UK and see family but cannot wait to return. I have a 3 yr old grandson and miss him, but they all,have their own lives. I find lots of people go back because miss grandchildren, but when I listen to news I get afraid for these little souls that is why I am hoping my daughter will eventually come here. I encourage it. I love Cyprus.

Lem · Post by **Lem** » Wed 25 Mar 2015 9:03 pm

"I am told a lot of people end up in bars quite a lot through boredom , so what do you all do day in day out ?"

Well, there's the rub! Boredom! All the old friends and relatives are back in the UK. I am lucky in that I have my little place in Alsancak and a home and part time job in the UK. But coming out each year for a month or more I have realised that once you've visited all the sites, enjoyed the food and the sun, gone exploring east, west and south, gone to Lambuso on a Saturday morning, sat in the George in Girne listening to the gossip, sipped cold beer down at Kervansary watching the sunset. What next? I know you can get bored in the UK, especially if you're retired, but being bored and living where you come from or have lived is not quite so bad, especially if family live nearby. What do you do? Watch Sky TV? Join a drama group? Or go to the pub? Strangely enough, back in the UK, I found myself doing that on my days off? So maybe that's the answer! I asked my doctor if I stopped drinking would I live longer? He said, no, it will just seem like it! Happy Days!

mrsgee · Post by **mrsgee** » Wed 25 Mar 2015 10:20 pm

Turtle, I would like to reply to you....what do we do with our days, well actually much the same as we did in UK but easier....ok, so we maintain the house, you know, painting and all that good stuff. why would 'normal' jobs be any different here to UK?, No we dont end up in bars, why would we? we have exactly the same things, washing, ironing, cleaning, gardening, maintenance of our house, why does anyone think that because we live in a holiday island we are on permanent holiday.....no, we are not, get real, we do all the stuff that you would do in UK...and would be just as bored but have lovely scenery to look at and I can dry my washing almost every day...., I dont understand why anyone questions what we do dy in day out.....what do you do then Turtle...with your time....everyone has time and can choose what to do with it....we are not all spending time in bars...

turtle · Post by **turtle** » Wed 25 Mar 2015 11:41 pm

Ooohh hold up mrsgee, I didn't mean to be rude or upset anyone ?

Let me try and explain a bit clearer,....I merely asked how people occupy their long days over in NC as my view is that life in the UK is a lot different to daily life over there such as pastimes for the blokes like league football matches or Rugby at weekends or freshwater fishing or the thousands of golf courses to pit your wits against or even county shows or the many trade type shows at exhibition centers etc etc.

All I was saying is that if in the UK you get bored with life you can soon put some excitement back in your life quite quickly by one of the events I mentioned or visiting family or going to the cinema.... things that are not so readily available over there.

If gardening or painting or even ironing is your thing who am I to question that but I was just interested to know what people over there get up to that keeps them active and stimulated.

As for the comment about spending time in bars,.. I only mention this as expats have told me this happens and some people have struggled to adapt to life in another country but again if this is what some want to do that's fine I have no problem with that but as I said I am interested (not questioning as you suggest) in what and how people spend their time over there because I am on the "home straight" to retirement and I am looking a lot closer at what I will do in retirement... nothing more nothing less.

turtle · Post by **turtle** » Wed 25 Mar 2015 11:43 pm

Can I just ask Soner why everytime a longish post is typed it appears that the site logs you off and you have to type it all again,..its very annoying

vonnie · Post by **vonnie** » Thu 26 Mar 2015 12:01 am

I sometimes wonder if the ones that returned back to the Uk , do they sometimes think,,, I wished I stayed in Cyprus?

johnny1 · Post by **johnny1** » Thu 26 Mar 2015 2:01 am

im living in south,from uk,ive been here for many years.
i prefer the north much more than south...but i can not say i love cyprus whichever part....
it is not easy to go back home to the uk.if only it was.....i would be gone a long time ago....
if anyone has any advise on how someone who has lost and been cheated out of everything he had to go back home to uk...
i would be very greatful to hear....
oh how i wish i could go home..very depressed here...

topten · Post by **topten** » Thu 26 Mar 2015 5:46 am

turtle wrote:Ooohh hold up mrsgee, I didn't mean to be rude or upset anyone ?

Let me try and explain a bit clearer,....I merely asked how people occupy their long days over in NC as my view is that life in the UK is a lot different to daily life over there such as pastimes for the blokes like league football matches or Rugby at weekends or freshwater fishing or the thousands of golf courses to pit your wits against or even county shows or the many trade type shows at exhibition centers etc etc.

All I was saying is that if in the UK you get bored with life you can soon put some excitement back in your life quite quickly by one of the events I mentioned or visiting family or going to the cinema.... things that are not so readily available over there.

If gardening or painting or even ironing is your thing who am I to question that but I was just interested to know what people over there get up to that keeps them active and stimulated.

As for the comment about spending time in bars,.. I only mention this as expats have told me this happens and some people have struggled to adapt to life in another country but again if this is what some want to do that's fine I have no problem with that but as I said I am interested (not questioning as you suggest) in what and how people spend their time over there because I am on the "home straight" to retirement and I am looking a lot closer at what I will do in retirement... nothing more nothing less.

So true that is what most expats do

topten · Post by **topten** » Thu 26 Mar 2015 5:48 am

vonnie wrote:I sometimes wonder if the ones that returned back to the Uk , do they sometimes think,,, I wished I stayed in Cyprus?

NEVER!!!!!!

Groucho · Post by **Groucho** » Thu 26 Mar 2015 9:07 am

To me the bottom line is - if you didn't come for the island, its people, its way-of-life and its weather - and the wish to leave behind some of the trappings of UK life - then your reasons for coming in the first place were flawed... Those considering moving here should bear these things in mind. Don't regard moving here as 'perma-holiday' either... that's a disaster waiting to happen.

If you want what the UK has to offer don't move away in the first place...

Rocket science it's not.

kaiserphil · Post by **kaiserphil** » Thu 26 Mar 2015 9:16 am

Groucho - I think you will find that many people came to NC for those reasons. It is just that some have lost so much as a result of moving over that they wish they had never done so.

Personally, I wish never to see the place again. It is friends that I miss, but now so many of those are no longer there.

vonnie · Post by **vonnie** » Thu 26 Mar 2015 9:36 am

But, Topten.Did you not once say "Never"when asked of you would sell up and return to the UK?I think both countries have good and bad things about them.but what im saying is, surely some of the people who returned to the uk will still compare things and regret leaving and if they were struggling with money here wi
l they not struggle more there ?

topten · Post by **topten** » Thu 26 Mar 2015 9:39 am

Groucho wrote:To me the bottom line is - if you didn't come for the island, its people, its way-of-life and its weather - and the wish to leave behind some of the trappings of UK life - then your reasons for coming in the first place were flawed... Those considering moving here should bear these things in mind. Don't regard moving here as 'perma-holiday' either... that's a disaster waiting to happen.

If you want what the UK has to offer don't move away in the first place...

Rocket science it's not.

Why is it that all your replies seem to deem everybody as morons if they don't fall in with your idea of life in Cyprus, we came with our eyes wide open to start a new life in a place we loved. And through circumstances that are too long and numerous to go into, we sadly fell out of love with Cyprus, and returned back to the UK. And despite all your ramblings, from my time there talking to the number of people that came and said to us if only we could sell we would be following you was, many. And I was one of you who when asked will you return to the UK said "never" and I think that in a few months / years I will bet that some not all of the, "nevers" will be back in the UK.

Johnny Lee · Post by **Johnny Lee** » Thu 26 Mar 2015 10:35 am

I would love to sell up , but only to release a few 100k stg and maybe downsize or travel. Return to the UK please heaven forbid. I would like the pensions and entitlements we have and are still paying for .

I think the UK was finished an long time ago . If I was ever forced back I do not think I could find much to wax lyrical about. Maybe cheap cars and a good curry. Can't think of much else. Oh and of course beautiful Mid Wales unfortunately governed by a bunch of t----s in Downing street.

Things are far from perfect here and I am finding myself becoming a bit frustrated with things that used to make me laugh. But if I step back a minute and really think about it, I think that is probably coming from within, rather than outside.

We are adults, we made this decision, if it goes tits up then we have ourselves to blame. I do appreciate of course that when health issues become paramount you may have no choice.

I think the UK as gone as we knew it and is sliding rapidly down the pan. Yes it is clean and tidy in general, but it is far to politically correct, overcrowded ,crime ridden and I am sorry to say and not being racist, I am not in any way. But the country and most of what our age group worked for as been frittered away on immigrants.

woodspeckie · Post by **woodspeckie** » Thu 26 Mar 2015 10:57 am

Johnny. UK fit for one thing -the NHS you can return to!

Retired · Post by **Retired** » Thu 26 Mar 2015 11:07 am

Welsh NHS not working anymore..run by the other lot.

woodspeckie · Post by **woodspeckie** » Thu 26 Mar 2015 11:18 am

I can see both sides in this argument, my opinion is I am better in the UK your opinion you are better in North Cyprus, I love NC for my 3 month holiday but live there, never.

Hedge-fund · Post by **Hedge-fund** » Thu 26 Mar 2015 11:55 am

Tongue in cheek question to topten.

If you hate TRNC so much and have left never to return---------- What are you doing on a TRNC forum?

mrsgee · Post by **mrsgee** » Thu 26 Mar 2015 1:13 pm

Good question Hedge-fund!

topten · Post by **topten** » Thu 26 Mar 2015 1:20 pm

Hedge-fund wrote:Tongue in cheek question to topten.

If you hate TRNC so much and have left never to return---------- What are you doing on a TRNC forum?

Joined long before you and I still have some good friends out there, And anyway what the bloody hell as it got to do with you?

elizabeth · Post by **elizabeth** » Thu 26 Mar 2015 1:49 pm

topten wrote:
Hedge-fund wrote:Tongue in cheek question to topten.

If you hate TRNC so much and have left never to return---------- What are you doing on a TRNC forum?

Joined long before you and I still have some good friends out there, And anyway what the bloody hell as it got to do with you?

Quite right too, it's only the same as expats still taking an interest in where they lived for many years, I didn't know the Kibcom was an exclusive club.

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