Text just received from KIBTEK

sophie · Post by **sophie** » Mon 27 Jul 2015 7:52 am

I'm working on the theory that everyone with an electricity meter in their name has received the same text? Are there some householders who already work on this system and if so, what problems you have encountered? (Am working on the assumption there have been problems)

greengate · Post by **greengate** » Mon 27 Jul 2015 8:16 am

I wondered where this months bill was - do you think this saving in time & personnel will offset the imminent increase in electricity prices ?

Dalartokat · Post by **Dalartokat** » Mon 27 Jul 2015 8:18 am

This may explain, posted in Kibris Postasi

http://www.kpdailynews.com/index.php/ca ... LOCAL_NEWS

jimm127 · Post by **jimm127** » Mon 27 Jul 2015 8:28 am

I think everyone who has a mobile got the text. I rent my apartment and the meter is in the owner's name and I still got the text.

13roman58 · Post by **13roman58** » Mon 27 Jul 2015 8:48 am

So how do you respond if the meter is not in your name? as is a lot of properties,also what about people who ask neighbours to collect and pay on their behalve when they are not here.

13roman58 · Post by **13roman58** » Mon 27 Jul 2015 8:53 am

And according to the newspaper article you only have until Friday to respond!

solic200 · Post by **solic200** » Mon 27 Jul 2015 8:56 am

I suppose it doesn't matter if you pay the owners bill just put the owners name on the text they don't care as long as the bill is paid. Where is the identification number is it the 8 digit one at the top left?

Keithcaley · Post by **Keithcaley** » Mon 27 Jul 2015 9:03 am

solic200 wrote:I suppose it doesn't matter if you pay the owners bill just put the owners name on the text they don't care as long as the bill is paid. Where is the identification number is it the 8 digit one at the top left?

The information is given on the link in post 3

interceptor · Post by **interceptor** » Mon 27 Jul 2015 9:05 am

As we will not have a bill as such will we still be able to call at a local bank and pay by cash?

kedikat2903 · Post by **kedikat2903** » Mon 27 Jul 2015 9:19 am

The text I received was in Turkish. I understand some of it, but could someone tell me exactly what they need to know. The news article isn't really helpful. It just has a stream of numbers and doesn't explain what the numbers are. Thanks

erol · Post by **erol** » Mon 27 Jul 2015 9:22 am

I think the information you are being requested to reply with is

kımlik card / ID number
electricity bill number
name
email

What is not clear to me is if you do not respond with these details what the consequence is ?

kedikat2903 · Post by **kedikat2903** » Mon 27 Jul 2015 9:29 am

Thank you for your reply,Erol. I don't have a kimlik card. So don't know how to reply to that request ! Meter is also not in my name. I suppose I will have to try to get to the kibtek office and ask.

jazzdolly · Post by **jazzdolly** » Mon 27 Jul 2015 10:13 am

Thankyou Dalartokat.

I clicked on the link and it explained everything. I sent the text and received one back to confirm I had done it. All good so far!

Great!

Deniz1 · Post by **Deniz1** » Mon 27 Jul 2015 10:27 am

I have 2 houses that I pay bills for and they are only here for about 6 wks a year they dont have mobile phone numbers for here so I dont know what to put. Their uk number?

waddo · Post by **waddo** » Mon 27 Jul 2015 10:31 am

This could be fun! Just in the process of changing the account name for the connected supply (tomorrow) and will attempt to give them the "New" information once I have done that. Interesting to note that if I was a TC or a Foreigner with a TC guarantor then the cost of change over is 469TL, no refund for the previous owner regardless.

However, if I was a Foreigner without a TC guarantor then the change over cost is still 469TL PLUS 469TL PLUS 469TL or a total of 1407TL. When I asked why I was told "because that is the rule" for a Foreigner. It is not about the meter, it is about a deposit that guarantees the bill will be paid - I asked how much deposit had the Government Offices or Cratos Hotel paid and just received a smile - lol.

So I ended up feeling sorry for all the TC's because it is obvious that they get their electric turned off at the end of one month without paying but I can run for three months before my electric is turned off - or is that the other way around???????????????

Got questions about what to do in reply to the text? Text your question to Kibtek because they are the only people who have any clue about what is going on.

Philoz · Post by **Philoz** » Mon 27 Jul 2015 10:40 am

Erol - are you sure that the ID number they refer to is not the number on your kimlik card but the electric meters ID number which shows on your bill as 'sayak No'?

Bert · Post by **Bert** » Mon 27 Jul 2015 10:47 am

Sayak number changes each month!!!!

Bert · Post by **Bert** » Mon 27 Jul 2015 10:47 am

Sayak number changes each month!!!!

amelia · Post by **amelia** » Mon 27 Jul 2015 10:49 am

The text I received in English

SEND free text to 9898
THIS SMS SHOULD INCLUDE

1.IDENTIFICATION NUMBER
2.ACCOUNT NUMBER
3.NAME
4.SURNAME
5.EMAIL ADDRESS
LEAVE A SPACE AFTER EACH PIECE OF INFORMATION.

Hope this helps

Bert · Post by **Bert** » Mon 27 Jul 2015 10:52 am

What exactly is the ID number and Account number it refers to is what people are asking I think???

Philoz · Post by **Philoz** » Mon 27 Jul 2015 10:59 am

@bert -my sayak(meter) number is the same every month-the number which changes every month is the 'bilderim no'!!!

@amelia-I too got the text,I am simply trying to ascertain as to what ID number they want-i.e. your personal ID number,which in the case of a temprory resident would I assume be the number on your pink card,or the ID number of your meter(which is assume is the 'sayak' number (I think)

solic200 · Post by **solic200** » Mon 27 Jul 2015 11:05 am

On the link it shows a 6 digit number for the ID number but there isn't a 6 digit number on the bill there is an 8 digit number and the Acc number/Hasap

wanderer · Post by **wanderer** » Mon 27 Jul 2015 11:08 am

I tried the e-mail from the news paper article
Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:

bahtiyarduran@yahoo.com

Technical details of permanent failure:
Google tried to deliver your message, but it was rejected by the server for the recipient domain yahoo.com by mta7.am0.yahoodns.net. [98.138.112.34].

The error that the other server returned was:
554 delivery error: dd This user doesn't have a yahoo.com account (bahtiyarduran@yahoo.com) [0] - mta1259.mail.ne1.yahoo.com

Keithcaley · Post by **Keithcaley** » Mon 27 Jul 2015 11:09 am

I think that that email address was simply an example, and that you should insert your own email address there when you send the text to Kibtek.

Mollie the cat · Post by **Mollie the cat** » Mon 27 Jul 2015 11:48 am

Jazzdolly,
Looks like you were successful with your SMS, if so, I am still confused as to what the identification number is?

Yenidunya2 · Post by **Yenidunya2** » Mon 27 Jul 2015 11:51 am

Went into kibtek this am to register. Details taken were:
1. Electric account number
2. Name of account holder
3. mobile number
What's difficult about that?

hs.mummy · Post by **hs.mummy** » Mon 27 Jul 2015 11:52 am

Im confused ( it dose not take alot). We have received they same text, i think. It was in Turkish. But worry is that the bill is in our landlords name and not ours. not sure what we have to do. Any advise would be great. Thanks

wanderer · Post by **wanderer** » Mon 27 Jul 2015 12:01 pm

So you can register on line at kibtek but I don't know what info you can get I've registered and got into the account but i am stuck at this page

KIBTEK LEARNING DEBT - INVOICE INQUIRY

ACCOUNT NUMBER: Examples: * 001

NON SUBSCRIBERS: Examples: 01001010000100

The only information I have is the monthly bill so what goes where
Also this about the new meter system
http://www.kibtek.com/AB_Projeler/asayac.htm

come_on_aylin · Post by **come_on_aylin** » Mon 27 Jul 2015 12:55 pm

Would it be possible for the Turkish message to be typed in? Might be able to work out what the first 2 bits of info they require are? Is it tüketici no. (Consumer no.) or Hesap no. (account no.) or both?

Laura B · Post by **Laura B** » Mon 27 Jul 2015 1:02 pm

tuketici is what they are asking for

BOERBOEL · Post by **BOERBOEL** » Mon 27 Jul 2015 1:06 pm

Our meter is 50 metres from our house and to date has not been changed for a new one (which has been a topic on here) so does this mean that we will still have to have a meter reading as presumably it won't be able to be read electronically!!

If this is the case, do we still have to respond to said text as we also do not own the property so bill is not in our name.

waddo · Post by **waddo** » Mon 27 Jul 2015 1:09 pm

Got questions about what to do in reply to the text? Text your question to Kibtek because they are the only people who have any clue about what is going on.

jazzdolly · Post by **jazzdolly** » Mon 27 Jul 2015 2:36 pm

I wrote down every number with the name of the number next to it!
I would have written my kimlik no. if the article I read ( link posted above) said to do so, but I didn't see that!
We rent our house and I put the address and know by going to the office is matters little
who's name is on the address... As long as they have yours and know you are living there and paying the bill!
I wrote my email too... If they have your email, electricity details and phone number I'm sure they can contact you if there's a problem...

I tend to be relaxed about these things and hope local common sense will prevail ..Sorry if this fails to help you but I've been okay so far...

PoshinDevon · Post by **PoshinDevon** » Mon 27 Jul 2015 3:11 pm

Not sure if this helps but after consulting our english/turkish dictionary we sent in

1. For id number we sent Sayak number.....always same on our bill
2. For accoint number we sent in Hesap number.....always same on our bill
For name we sent my first and second name as shown on bill. For surname we sent surname as shown on bill. Plus also our email address.

numpty · Post by **numpty** » Mon 27 Jul 2015 3:20 pm

Where and how do the bills get paid x

squashmad · Post by **squashmad** » Mon 27 Jul 2015 4:15 pm

The Cyprus Today reported about this last week but said it was only for people who have 'smart meters', any idea what one of these are?

wanderer · Post by **wanderer** » Mon 27 Jul 2015 4:33 pm

squashmad smart meter project
http://www.kibtek.com/AB_Projeler/asayac.htm

You can create a log in and see your bill online

TheSaints · Post by **TheSaints** » Mon 27 Jul 2015 4:43 pm

Responded to the message by sending an sms to 9898
I gave the following info;

Hesap# (Account#)
My name
My email address.

I received a confirmation of receipt sms from Kibtec.

squashmad · Post by **squashmad** » Mon 27 Jul 2015 5:23 pm

Thank you wanderer, I am still non the wiser.

Have some of you recently had your meters changed by any chance? I know we haven't so I assume that I do not have a smart meter therefore do not need to register....... I feel a trip to Kibtek coming on!!

PoshinDevon · Post by **PoshinDevon** » Mon 27 Jul 2015 5:43 pm

wanderer wrote:squashmad smart meter project
http://www.kibtek.com/AB_Projeler/asayac.htm

You can create a log in and see your bill online

If I could understand the website it would be a good thing.

Note to self....LEARN TURKISH!

erol · Post by **erol** » Mon 27 Jul 2015 5:53 pm

In case it helps the following is the turkish text I received

sms from kibtek wrote:Adina kayitli elektrik sayaci bulunan tuketicilerimizin her bir sayac icin ayri ayri; kimlik, hesap, sayac no, ad, soyadi ve mail adreslerini her bilgiden sonra bir bosluk birakarak elektrik fatura bilgisi almak istedikleri GSM numarasindan ucretsiz olarak 9898'e SMS atmalarini rica ederiz.

Google translation of the above come out as

google translate of above kibtek sms wrote:Each counter on the separately with electrical meter registered on behalf of our consumers; identity , account, meter number, name after name and e-mail addresses they want to receive any information as free from the GSM number , leaving a gap of electricity billing information, we ask them to take SMS to 9898 .

Can not really say I am much the wiser

It would seem to me they are asking for 6 separate pieces of information to be sent back (if you count first name and surname as separate items)

kimlik (identity)
hesap (bill) - (my last electricity bill has a hesap no)
sayac no - counter (meter) no ? (again my last bill has a sayac no)
ad - name (first name)
soyadi - last name
email address

PapaBravo · Post by **PapaBravo** » Mon 27 Jul 2015 7:16 pm

Erol,

It would seem to me they are asking for 6 separate pieces of information to be sent back (if you count first name and surname as separate items)

kimlik (identity)
hesap (bill) - (my last electricity bill has a hesap no)
sayac no - counter (meter) no ? (again my last bill has a sayac no)
ad - name (first name)
soyadi - last name
email address

What if you do not have a kimlik?

Dalartokat · Post by **Dalartokat** » Mon 27 Jul 2015 7:37 pm

PapaBravo wrote:Erol,

It would seem to me they are asking for 6 separate pieces of information to be sent back (if you count first name and surname as separate items)

kimlik (identity)
hesap (bill) - (my last electricity bill has a hesap no)
sayac no - counter (meter) no ? (again my last bill has a sayac no)
ad - name (first name)
soyadi - last name
email address
What if you do not have a kimlik?

Passport?

Joe Soap · Post by **Joe Soap** » Mon 27 Jul 2015 8:37 pm

Confusing to say the least. Only 5 items, unlike Erol's comment above, were asked for in the text from Kibtek to me. The unclear item is Identification number per the Kibtek text. The only number, apart from the Sayaç No.(Meter No.) that hasn't changed over the months has been the Tüketici No. (Consumer No.), so I have shown this in my response. If I am wrong me thinks I won't get a bill in the forthcoming months.......................ah bliss!

meldy · Post by **meldy** » Mon 27 Jul 2015 8:44 pm

I got the text too but not a clue as to what information I need to send or what it means regarding paying my bill - and that of my neighbours when they are not here. I pay at the local butcher just now so hope I can still do that. Hope there is a better explanation forthcoming, via Cyptus Today perhaps, rather than the differing explanations here - although thanks to those who are trying to help numpty's like me!

wanderer · Post by **wanderer** » Mon 27 Jul 2015 9:23 pm

Posh in Devon
I speak black country and some english no Turkish google translate on web browser the ways to go
so I can see
Hassap number with - in
Account Number Consumer No. Name Address Balance GZ

* 00250000 0300000000000 47 lets be avin u 79.49 00:00

what does GZ mean

wanderer · Post by **wanderer** » Mon 27 Jul 2015 9:33 pm

Home > AMI & Smart Metering > Kamstrup bags smart meter tender in Northern Cyprus
Kamstrup bags smart meter tender in Northern Cyprus
Posted by: Rose BundockApril 30, 2015Leave a Comment
The 30,000 meter rollout is accompanied by a disconnect solution, automatically switching off the meter if the voltage level becomes too high
The 30,000 smart meters being deployed in Northern Cyprus incorporate a disconnect feature that automatically switches off the meter if the voltage level becomes too high

In southern Europe, KIB-TEK, an energy company in Northern Cyprus, has awarded Danish smart meter manufacturer Kamstrup a contract for the deployment of 36,000 smart electricity meters.

Kamstrup is deploying 30,000 OMNIPOWER single phase meters, along with 6,000 OMNIPOWER three phase meters, enabled by GPRS communication.

The smart meter rollout, which began in December 2014, is expected to be completed in the first quarter of 2015, with 15,000 meters installed to date.

Kamstrup is also providing additional support with technology integration and the training of installers.

Managing voltage fluctuations
KIB-TEK, which is the only electricity company serving Northern Cyprus, has a customer base of 175,000 and is considered to be one of the most advanced utilities in the region in terms of advanced metering.

One of the challenges of the local electricity network is the high level of voltage fluctuations in the grid as a result of a 'extreme climatic environment' on the island.

In order to address voltage fluctuations, Kamstrup has developed a extra feature tailored to the Northern Cyprus market - a disconnect solution able to automatically switch of the meter, should the voltage level be too high.

The meter manufacturer said this also aims to protect customers from fire danger and damaged in-home appliances.

Kamstrup's AMI win in Copenhagen
The deal follows another win for Kamstrup in Europe when it won a tender for one million remotely read electricity meters worth €239m.

In March 2015, Kamstrup said it beat competition from 30 international suppliers to secure the order from DONG Energy Eldistribution to provide metering units for the Greater Copenhagen area until 2034.

The news follows DONG Energy putting out an advanced metering infrastructure tender in April 2014 for one service provider to deliver one million meters in the capital Copenhagen and one of its regions Zealand in a contract estimated at 2 billion DKK (Danish krone).

The scope of the tender included meters, communication and head end system, as well as installing meters and communication systems and maintenance.

DONG Energy's installation is part of a move towards remote electricity meters and the introduction of hourly electricity consumption reading in Denmark.

DONG Energy has chosen the OMNIA suite of meters "that allows new functionality to be uploaded directly to the meters to ensure that the solution can live up to future demands as well,” says Per Asmussen, CEO of Kamstrup

Keithcaley · Post by **Keithcaley** » Tue 28 Jul 2015 7:04 am

wanderer wrote:...The 30,000 meter rollout is accompanied by a disconnect solution, automatically switching off the meter if the voltage level becomes too high...

I wonder if it switches the power back on again afterward, otherwise there's going to be a lot of ruined food in fridges and freezers...

cooper · Post by **cooper** » Tue 28 Jul 2015 7:19 am

squashmad please post your findings once you have asked if it only applies to the new smart meters

Lovelife · Post by **Lovelife** » Tue 28 Jul 2015 9:46 am

http://cyprusscene.com/2015/07/27/kib-t ... r-project/

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