Windows 10

Hilltop · Post by **Hilltop** » Wed 29 Jul 2015 8:40 am

Has anyone received the download to their machine yet? I intend to load it onto 1 machine to start with and then see how it goes.

Cally · Post by **Cally** » Wed 29 Jul 2015 9:47 am

I am in UK & get messages for free download for windows 10 but as it takes me ages to get used to change I have put off doing it, so would also be interested in any replies. Am on windows 7 at present.
And your bug bugs me

erol · Post by **erol** » Wed 29 Jul 2015 9:56 am

I have been running the win 10 beta versions on my partners laptop for the last 3 months or so. It seems pretty stable right now it is not such a big 'change' from win 7 to win 10 as the change from win 7 to win 8 was. Will probably update my main machine when it releases but only after taking a full backup of the win 7 so I can go back. Normally I do not rush to move to a new version of windows until there is something specific in the new version I want or need. For me as a 'gamer' the new version of direct X is what is encouraging me to upgrade to win 10 on my main machine. Without that I probably would not bother.

Cally · Post by **Cally** » Wed 29 Jul 2015 10:04 am

Thanks for that Erol, I will take a long time thinking about it

Hilltop · Post by **Hilltop** » Wed 29 Jul 2015 10:11 am

I am going to let the program download on all 3 of my Windows machines, but only install on 1 until I see how it goes. I was just interested if anyone's download has started yet?

erol · Post by **erol** » Wed 29 Jul 2015 10:17 am

Hilltop wrote:I am going to let the program download on all 3 of my Windows machines, but only install on 1 until I see how it goes. I was just interested if anyone's download has started yet?

Yes my machine has been downloading the updates 'in the back ground' over last few days. I run a small program on my machine that monitors network usage and I have noticed lots of downloading going on in 'idle periods' from a process that is effectively windows update.

Hilltop · Post by **Hilltop** » Wed 29 Jul 2015 10:18 am

Thanks Erol, I will have a delve into my machines.

erol · Post by **erol** » Wed 29 Jul 2015 10:26 am

Just to be clear I am getting the 'pre download' because I have clicked on the win 10 icon that appeared in my system tray a while back and confirmed that I wanted to do so there. It looks like this

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its the '4 squares' icon. So you do need to click on this on machines you want to start 'pre downloading' on I think

Hilltop · Post by **Hilltop** » Wed 29 Jul 2015 11:31 am

That's fine Erol, I have the window icon in all 3 trays. I have to admit it took a lot of effort updating to get it on the Samsung Netbook. I am informed they are all ready for download.

jofra · Post by **jofra** » Wed 29 Jul 2015 7:30 pm

erol wrote:I have been running the win 10 beta versions on my partners laptop for the last 3 months or so. .........Will probably update my main machine when it releases but only after taking a full backup of the win 7 so I can go back.....

I've also been running the preview version for a few months; I also like it and am going to download for my laptops and desktops - but, like Erol, I will backup (or clone) each of them before installing Win 10.
One important point - search/google "wifi sense windows 10" and read carefully - there will be some over-the-top scaremongering no doubt, but nevertheless, careless sharing - what type of material could/would someone download and how much download are you limited to by your provider?

Groucho · Post by **Groucho** » Wed 29 Jul 2015 9:59 pm

Windows 10 security alert as new 'feature' automatically shares your wifi passwords with ALL Outlook, Skype and Facebook contacts who also have the software.

jofra · Post by **jofra** » Wed 29 Jul 2015 10:22 pm

...And as such, I have "automatically" disabled this "feature".....
I have no wish or intention to share any of my passwords - for anything - with anybody......
Perhaps that is why in over twenty years of computing, BBS and internet usage, I have only ever (touch wood!) had one virus infection - discovered and eradicated very quickly....

Groucho · Post by **Groucho** » Thu 30 Jul 2015 9:07 am

I used this link to force Windows 10 Pro installation as I had several x64 update issues that stem from windows 7 updates that even Microsoft could not fix - and would seemingly stop the normal Windows 10 upgrade process

http://venturebeat.com/2015/07/29/how-t ... ws-update/

It worked seamlessly and was painless....

But if you are using Wi-Fi do have regard to the vulnerabilities of Wi-Fi Sense and consider disabling it.....

"To change your settings, go to Network settings then Manage Wi-Fi settings (Settings > Network & Internet > Wi-Fi > Manage Wi-Fi Settings).
There, you can choose which contacts you share Wi-Fi settings with.
You can toggle the setting to discover friends' Wi-Fi networks, or opt not to.
If you want none of it, you can uncheck every box."

eyebob94 · Post by **eyebob94** » Thu 30 Jul 2015 8:10 pm

Windows 10 downloaded automatically this morning when I switched on, took about 2 hours to complete, reboots several times during the process but now running A1.

TheSaints · Post by **TheSaints** » Fri 31 Jul 2015 5:06 am

Read this thread last night and decided to check both of my laptops, only one of which I will upgrade to Win 10 the other will stay on Win 7.
On the one I am (have) upgraded to Win 10 I found the upgrade file on my C drive, checked windows update and saw that the download had failed several times. I deleted the folder opened, run and entered a command prompt as admistrator and it started to download Win 10 all completed and seems to be running smoothly.

dani · Post by **dani** » Fri 31 Jul 2015 11:39 am

Hi, I don't have windows 7 (or any other version) on this pc. Bit of a 'thicky' question I know, but can I get Windows 10 for free?

erol · Post by **erol** » Fri 31 Jul 2015 12:02 pm

dani wrote:Hi, I don't have windows 7 (or any other version) on this pc. Bit of a 'thicky' question I know, but can I get Windows 10 for free?

No not in any official manner. The free upgrade offer is only for those who have a licensed copy of either win 7, 8 or 8.1 I am afraid.

Groucho · Post by **Groucho** » Fri 31 Jul 2015 1:45 pm

One small wrinkle I've experienced - the Windows 10 installation did not recognise that my audio out was through a set of speakers connected to the green audio out of the graphics card.... simple fix - removed and reinserted the jack plug and the system recognised a new audio connection and allowed me to configure and save that and hey-presto audio is fine....

dippersgirl · Post by **dippersgirl** » Fri 31 Jul 2015 1:56 pm

I had Windows 8 on my laptop and hated it. I like 10 better but I am still checking everything. One thing I noticed, that I can't find my AVG virus checker pro!!!
I did a search and the only thing I found was a file called 'AVG secure search' and 'Visual Studio 2010 x64 redistributables' and I haven't got a clue what that is .The rest - It's just gone!!!

Owl Lady · Post by **Owl Lady** » Fri 31 Jul 2015 2:44 pm

I kept getting a message with the offer to pre order!! When I checked on the link for more info,This page is no longer available!!!Stuff it!

Groucho · Post by **Groucho** » Fri 31 Jul 2015 3:38 pm

Owl Lady wrote:I kept getting a message with the offer to pre order!! When I checked on the link for more info,This page is no longer available!!!Stuff it!

Try this link....

http://venturebeat.com/2015/07/29/how-t ... ws-update/

karmels · Post by **karmels** » Fri 31 Jul 2015 4:24 pm

Hi Groucho, I downloaded the link but it just says something happend re boot your computer and try again.
I am running a newer laptop with windows 7.

Groucho · Post by **Groucho** » Fri 31 Jul 2015 6:38 pm

karmels wrote:Hi Groucho, I downloaded the link but it just says something happend re boot your computer and try again.
I am running a newer laptop with windows 7.

I've used it for both a 32 bit and 64 bit PC without incident... did you download the right Media Creation Tool for your PC? i.e. is it 32 or 64 bit?

karmels · Post by **karmels** » Fri 31 Jul 2015 6:55 pm

Groucho.

My system is 64bit so I downloaded so I downloaded this, it downloaded but when I tied to open it the blue download screen came but it just kept going round and round until I got the little box saying there's something wrong. so I quit.

mrsgee · Post by **mrsgee** » Fri 31 Jul 2015 10:14 pm

Downloaded 10 this afternoon, nothing but problems since......soooooooo slow connecting....anyone know how to get windows 7 back????

Groucho · Post by **Groucho** » Sat 01 Aug 2015 2:24 am

mrsgee wrote:Downloaded 10 this afternoon, nothing but problems since......soooooooo slow connecting....anyone know how to get windows 7 back????

http://www.howtogeek.com/220723/how-to- ... -7-or-8.1/

mrsgee · Post by **mrsgee** » Sat 01 Aug 2015 7:44 am

Excellent thanks Groucho. I will give it maybe a week or two to settle in, but at least good to know I can go back.

Groucho · Post by **Groucho** » Sat 01 Aug 2015 10:52 am

mrsgee wrote:Excellent thanks Groucho. I will give it maybe a week or two to settle in, but at least good to know I can go back.

Only for one month from date of install mind - any longer and the going back path is a lot more tortuous....

Groucho · Post by **Groucho** » Sun 02 Aug 2015 4:49 am

Word of warning - if you use a laptop as a media centre to make use of BBC iPlayer you will be disappointed that it will no longer works so hold off installing Windows 10 until that problem is fixed.

karmels · Post by **karmels** » Sun 02 Aug 2015 6:54 am

Groucho.
I have downloaded win10 from your link three times, each time the link opens in English but when the download is complete it is in Turkish.
Have you any Idea what has gone wrong? I am in Turkey at the moment.

mrsgee · Post by **mrsgee** » Sun 02 Aug 2015 7:31 am

Hi Groucho, I player is working for me. I always download though I don't play straight from the laptop.

Groucho · Post by **Groucho** » Sun 02 Aug 2015 7:52 am

mrsgee wrote: I always download though I don't play straight from the laptop.

Same for me too - but new downloads are not working properly and the BEEB have declared themselves uninterested in producing a Windows 10 compliant application....

Hilltop · Post by **Hilltop** » Sun 02 Aug 2015 11:01 am

Waited patiently for the official download, which took a while. Up and running with it now, disabled share wifi and messed around to get rid of the login screen. Much better than windows 8, but I think I will leave my windows 7 machine where it is for now.

Groucho · Post by **Groucho** » Sun 02 Aug 2015 6:13 pm

karmels wrote:Groucho.
I have downloaded win10 from your link three times, each time the link opens in English but when the download is complete it is in Turkish.
Have you any Idea what has gone wrong? I am in Turkey at the moment.

As I think you suspect it's working out your location, you need to switch to an 'English' IP Address I guess...

karmels · Post by **karmels** » Sun 02 Aug 2015 7:18 pm

Groucho.
When I downloaded the app there was a choice to change details, I set this to English UK.
Then I went back to the download and it came down in English, I am just on the first page updating, will let you know what happens.

Groucho · Post by **Groucho** » Sun 02 Aug 2015 8:41 pm

Hilltop wrote:Waited patiently for the official download, which took a while. Up and running with it now, disabled share wifi and messed around to get rid of the login screen. Much better than windows 8, but I think I will leave my windows 7 machine where it is for now.

Wise move,

BTW, the link I provided does link to an official Microsoft download, it was just a way of forcing it to download rather than wait for the roll-out.

karmels · Post by **karmels** » Sun 02 Aug 2015 9:14 pm

Just had something was wrong reboot.
I will now wait for my turn with MS update.

mrsgee · Post by **mrsgee** » Mon 03 Aug 2015 8:03 am

Watched 2 programmes last night which I had downloaded from BBC iplayer using Windows 10. No problems at all, worked perfectly.

Groucho · Post by **Groucho** » Mon 03 Aug 2015 9:46 am

karmels wrote:Just had something was wrong reboot.
I will now wait for my turn with MS update.

Hmm that's not good, do you have plenty of room on the PC? It has to make a copy of the old windows installation (approx 35gb) should you need to regress... it's quite big. Does you current windows installation count as genuine 7 ,8, ,8.1? Lots of PC's are running pirated copies with dodgy serial numbers.... Not accusing just asking...

karmels · Post by **karmels** » Mon 03 Aug 2015 1:43 pm

Groucho.
Yes it is a genuine copy, the computer came from the Greek side last year, it has 800 gig on c drive and 600 on d drive. was not a cheap laptop.

Groucho · Post by **Groucho** » Mon 03 Aug 2015 2:01 pm

karmels wrote:Groucho.
Yes it is a genuine copy, the computer came from the Greek side last year, it has 800 gig on c drive and 600 on d drive. was not a cheap laptop.

So plenty of room then.... you don't have an old 'windows.old' folder on the C Drive do you? If so that might be stopping the process....

If not it may only have been an interruption in the internet connection that caused the problem then, it has to do loads of look-ups over the connection during installation....

My PC was lacking the last four windows updates due to various problems - all of them were overwritten by the new installation (i.e. loads of problems cured)....

erol · Post by **erol** » Mon 03 Aug 2015 2:18 pm

Not that this windows 10 problem / feature would effect any kibkom users but just in case

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style ... 30996.html

sophie · Post by **sophie** » Mon 03 Aug 2015 6:37 pm

I have to smile but I am paying someone to come to the house (by the hour) to try and set up the latest laptop with 8.1U, let alone Windows 10!!

CatalkoyChris · Post by **CatalkoyChris** » Tue 04 Aug 2015 12:13 pm

Its OK nothing seems special, it has a few gimmicks.

I had an issue with Microsoft Edge (Internet Browser), its so bloated it regularly freezes.

No problem, I downloaded Chrome which works perfectly.

Groucho · Post by **Groucho** » Tue 04 Aug 2015 12:16 pm

Once you are happy that your Windows 10 installation is for you - you can instigate a general clean-up and recover some disk space by following the instructions in this link - but be sure once you have deleted older windows versions there is no easy way back.... if you want to.... you could copy your windows.old to a suitable storage device of course....

http://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/2066 ... ml#option1

Groucho · Post by **Groucho** » Tue 04 Aug 2015 12:19 pm

CatalkoyChris wrote:Its OK nothing seems special, it has a few gimmicks.

I had an issue with Microsoft Edge (Internet Browser), its so bloated it regularly freezes.

No problem, I downloaded Chrome which works perfectly.

It's Windows 7 plus and lots of stuff windows 8.1 should have had removed... I find that it starts-up and shuts down about ten times faster than the previous Windows versions which leads me to believe a lot of the nonsense has been removed.

wanderer · Post by **wanderer** » Tue 04 Aug 2015 2:01 pm

Daily Mail article about 10 stealing your rights and privacy Daily Mail at its best Nelson Mandela had better rights on Robin Island
You could be cited for adultery with Coltaa the pa ( Just like Mia in Humans one for Erol)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/ ... -warn.html

Groucho · Post by **Groucho** » Sun 09 Aug 2015 7:18 am

Groucho wrote:
mrsgee wrote: I always download though I don't play straight from the laptop.

Same for me too - but new downloads are not working properly and the BEEB have declared themselves uninterested in producing a Windows 10 compliant application....

Latest BBC iPlayer download has fixed all my issues with downloads and viewing BBC programs so I'm happy that Windows 10 is now stable with the BEEB having relented...

carlos slim · Post by **carlos slim** » Sun 09 Aug 2015 10:21 am

had it for two weeks did not like. windows keep closing on there own laptop would turn off on its own. gone back to windows 8. once installed you have 30 days to change your mind and go back to what ever you had before

carlos slim · Post by **carlos slim** » Sun 09 Aug 2015 10:28 am

mrsgee wrote:Downloaded 10 this afternoon, nothing but problems since......soooooooo slow connecting....anyone know how to get windows 7 back????

google it will tell you how to get back very easy

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