Water Pipeline from Turkey

Twaddle · Post by **Twaddle** » Wed 23 Sep 2015 7:57 am

I watched the last few remaining pipes being connected up last month off Karsiyaka but since going back to the UK I haven't heard much on this subject. Does anyone know whether the water is now flowing into the newly enlarged reservoir?

bigOz · Post by **bigOz** » Wed 23 Sep 2015 8:04 am

I believe there is a serious disagreement between the Turkish mainland authorities and the TRNC govenrment. Turkey wants a private company to run it (possibly another one where Mr Erdoğan's close relatives have a share in), but the TRNC is insisting that the water distribution in Cyprus should be Nationalised.

tomsteel · Post by **tomsteel** » Wed 23 Sep 2015 9:10 am

The Turkish concern in providing the water are planning to flush the pipeline from reservoir to reservoir this week. However, bayram is looming, so when it is completed is anybody's guess. To answer the original post, no.

Bookmark · Post by **Bookmark** » Wed 23 Sep 2015 10:36 am

I was at the Geçitköy Reservoir on Sunday and there was no sign of any water flowing in.

Bookmark.

guru · Post by **guru** » Wed 23 Sep 2015 1:29 pm

They have to firstly 'purge' the sea water contained in the undersea pipe.

Keithcaley · Post by **Keithcaley** » Wed 23 Sep 2015 1:32 pm

guru wrote:They have to firstly 'purge' the sea water contained in the undersea pipe.

I wonder where that's going to go to, then! - Into the reservoir?

Groucho · Post by **Groucho** » Wed 23 Sep 2015 1:50 pm

Keithcaley wrote:
guru wrote:They have to firstly 'purge' the sea water contained in the undersea pipe.
I wonder where that's going to go to, then! - Into the reservoir?

I would imagine the pipeline has an outlet to sea all they have to do is shut-off the exit to the reservoir.

tomsteel · Post by **tomsteel** » Wed 23 Sep 2015 2:32 pm

KC, it'll be purged into your witty repartee.

Keithcaley · Post by **Keithcaley** » Wed 23 Sep 2015 3:58 pm

tomsteel wrote:KC, it'll be purged into your witty repartee.

I'll just get mi' coat....

tomsteel · Post by **tomsteel** » Wed 23 Sep 2015 4:07 pm

No need, I enjoy your banter.

Keithcaley · Post by **Keithcaley** » Wed 23 Sep 2015 4:10 pm

tomsteel wrote:No need, I enjoy your banter.

Praise indeed, I feel a bit faint now...

I'd better go and lie down in a darkened room...

tomsteel · Post by **tomsteel** » Wed 23 Sep 2015 4:58 pm

Who is this "bit faint"? You lucky, lucky man!

Twaddle · Post by **Twaddle** » Wed 23 Sep 2015 6:20 pm

Thanks for replies. Yavas Yavas eh??

tomsteel · Post by **tomsteel** » Wed 23 Sep 2015 7:10 pm

Twaddle, more like 'yarin, yarin.' The Spanish term, 'manana' pales into insignificance here.

frontalman · Post by **frontalman** » Wed 23 Sep 2015 10:38 pm

tomsteel wrote:Twaddle, more like 'yarin, yarin.' The Spanish term, 'manana' pales into insignificance here.

With most things here I'd agree with you but I think this pipeline is a magnificent project. I'm really impressed with the way they've gone about it and the speed with which they've carried out the infrastructure works. I suppose the lack of health and safety regulations has helped it along. I think they've done a great job and I was as cynical as anyone else when the plans first came to light. Let's hope there aren't too many teething problems when the taps are turned on.

Groucho · Post by **Groucho** » Thu 24 Sep 2015 4:35 am

To be honest I can't imagine a worse implementation of the on-land pipework.... devastation of the roads, massive damage to the verges, and illogical routes for the piping. When the water is forced through the pipes God-only knows what havoc will ensue....

laptatony · Post by **laptatony** » Thu 24 Sep 2015 6:10 am

Thinking of becoming a plumber, once water comes through existing pipes at high pressure wow just watch out!

Groucho · Post by **Groucho** » Thu 24 Sep 2015 7:19 am

tomsteel wrote:Twaddle, more like 'yarin, yarin.' The Spanish term, 'manana' pales into insignificance here.

Isn't 'manana' - just 'banana' with a heavy cold?

waddo · Post by **waddo** » Thu 24 Sep 2015 7:59 am

Be fair there Groucho, where else could they put the pipes? As it is Cyprus I fully expected to see them slung through the trees and hanging from the lampposts - after all the majority of lampposts don't have lights that work anyway - but they at least have put them underground-ish. If you can tell me how you can cut a hole in the road without digging it up I would be impressed and they are repairing the holes now as they go along. I can't even see why the routing is illogical unless you know what will happen in 30 years time then at least they have followed the roads that should remain in place!

On another subject - why do we all think that the water will be "Forced" through the pipes? I can not see that the current pumping system will all be taken away and we will all have to rely on just the one "Massive" and "High Pressure" pump at the bottom of the damn? I can see that the well system will be reduced but the water containment system and the purification system will have to stay in place and as the "New" water will have to pass through that the same as the old water doe's, what will change in the delivery method? Water is a mystery to me, its wet, its the same as steel and we don't get much but what can really change?

Hector · Post by **Hector** » Thu 24 Sep 2015 9:34 am

Having seen a man drown in a trench whilst laying cables in London after a small 6 inch water pipe broke when the JCB digger digging the trench struck it, I fully respect the power of flowing mains water. The water turned the mud in the bottom of the trench into quicksand and despite the frantic efforts of fellow workmen with the JCB (tying a rope round him didn't work and would have just cut him in two) and the valiant efforts of the London Fire Service,they couldn't release his legs from the mud and the man drowned as the water slowly rose above his head despite several water pumps being used. The water company couldn't get there in time to turn the water off.

I've also seen, albeit on TV the results of burst water mains that cause huge holes in the road into which whole double decker buses have fallen into. The pipes I've seen at the side of the roads here must be 18 inches at least. I really dread to think what damage would be caused if one breaks, say at a joint or is struck by a JCB digging up the road for another reason.

Hedge-fund · Post by **Hedge-fund** » Thu 24 Sep 2015 10:54 am

So the long awaited water from Turkey is now killer water that is going to explode the pipes, roads and houses and we're all going to die.

Only on kibcom!

waddo · Post by **waddo** » Thu 24 Sep 2015 11:17 am

Maybe when it comes, all the half empty glasses will become half full! But it has put me off taking the double decker dolmus forever....

Kanonier · Post by **Kanonier** » Thu 24 Sep 2015 1:07 pm

On the way to Lapta this morning, I noticed around several hundred water pipes stacked neatly in an area near Escape beach. Given that the water is due to reach here by the end of October should these pipes be underground or has some over-zealous storeman ordered too many?

waddo · Post by **waddo** » Thu 24 Sep 2015 2:47 pm

They are the new Efes feed for Escape beach and have nothing to do with the water - lol.

Kanonier · Post by **Kanonier** » Thu 24 Sep 2015 4:31 pm

Ach so! So, what you are saying is, that there will be a parallel pipeline which will bring Efes to the TRNC, what a brilliant idea?

waddo · Post by **waddo** » Thu 24 Sep 2015 4:57 pm

Not bad but I hear they are going to put the price up to 3TL a ltr, shocking!!!!

Groucho · Post by **Groucho** » Thu 24 Sep 2015 5:14 pm

waddo wrote:Be fair there Groucho, where else could they put the pipes?

I think it would have been better if the pipes in this district were above ground high up in the mountains using the network of roads that already exist and where the pipes could be easily monitored (not hidden underground) and thus maintained. Using gravity to feed the reservoirs spread along the range rather than bring the water down to almost sea-level again from the Geçitköy Dam and reservoir and need high pressure to push it up to each municipality... With hydrants along the route of the pipeline they would then serve as an emergency supply in the event of forest fires...

I'm assuming locally the water supply to your home will use the existing system - the local reservoirs and wells systems will be used to distribute as is currently the case... i.e. no new high pressure will end-up at your supply.

Kanonier · Post by **Kanonier** » Fri 25 Sep 2015 7:36 am

waddo wrote:Not bad but I hear they are going to put the price up to 3TL a ltr, shocking!!!!

Maybe Efes could persuade Del Boy and Rodney to set up a bottling plant this end?

waddo · Post by **waddo** » Fri 25 Sep 2015 4:31 pm

Groucho - Now that is a dam good idea! It probably would have taken more pipe work but the additional benefit to quell the fires would have been well worth it.

3dognight · Post by **3dognight** » Mon 12 Oct 2015 3:09 pm

Anyone got an idea what the twin orange pipes being buried alongside the new water pipes are for?

Geoff1131 · Post by **Geoff1131** » Mon 12 Oct 2015 3:53 pm

Ii was told that the twin pipes are for telephone and fibre optic internet lines when they are available. Kind of makes sense for once.

Jonnie · Post by **Jonnie** » Mon 12 Oct 2015 4:12 pm

Geoff1131 wrote:Ii was told that the twin pipes are for telephone and fibre optic internet lines when they are available. Kind of makes sense for once.

I would question that as they go all the way to where the storage tank is where I live!

I was told there was some sort of leak detection system so they can work out where the leak is?????

The pipe has been dug up three times past ours so far and still deep excavations open without barriers!

Groucho · Post by **Groucho** » Mon 12 Oct 2015 7:10 pm

Jonnie wrote:
Geoff1131 wrote:Ii was told that the twin pipes are for telephone and fibre optic internet lines when they are available. Kind of makes sense for once.
I would question that as they go all the way to where the storage tank is where I live!

I was told there was some sort of leak detection system so they can work out where the leak is?????

The pipe has been dug up three times past ours so far and still deep excavations open without barriers!

As the orange pipes are buried with a yellow tape declaring that they are fibre-optic cables I think your question is answered...

Jonnie · Post by **Jonnie** » Mon 12 Oct 2015 7:29 pm

Groucho wrote:
Jonnie wrote:
Geoff1131 wrote:Ii was told that the twin pipes are for telephone and fibre optic internet lines when they are available. Kind of makes sense for once.
I would question that as they go all the way to where the storage tank is where I live!

I was told there was some sort of leak detection system so they can work out where the leak is?????

The pipe has been dug up three times past ours so far and still deep excavations open without barriers!
As the orange pipes are buried with a yellow tape declaring that they are fibre-optic cables I think your question is answered...

Certainly no tape where I am so whatever question you believe I asked is not answered. There are also joints in said orange pipe that are made with water pipe joints which you would not use for fiber optic surely?

Mimi2 · Post by **Mimi2** » Tue 13 Oct 2015 4:58 am

Water pouring into Dam yesterday. Going to take a while to fill it!

Jonnie · Post by **Jonnie** » Tue 13 Oct 2015 5:55 am

Did you notice where about it was running in? Looked to me like they were preparing a channel about 40 meters from the top of the dam which seems odd!

Yenidunya2 · Post by **Yenidunya2** » Tue 13 Oct 2015 6:08 am

From the valley floor, looking west towards the dam, the water is flowing in from the bottom righthand side. Simple physics.
The dam in Turkey is about 350 meters asl. Gravity will do the rest.

Jonnie · Post by **Jonnie** » Tue 13 Oct 2015 10:37 am

Yenidunya2 wrote:From the valley floor, looking west towards the dam, the water is flowing in from the bottom righthand side. Simple physics.
The dam in Turkey is about 350 meters asl. Gravity will do the rest.

Ah yes you are right, I was thinking about the water being pumped into the reservoir however the flow is only pump assisted.

Groucho · Post by **Groucho** » Tue 13 Oct 2015 10:53 am

Jonnie wrote:Certainly no tape where I am so whatever question you believe I asked is not answered. There are also joints in said orange pipe that are made with water pipe joints which you would not use for fiber optic surely?

You said 'I question' so I answered....

The orange pipes appear to be just the the outer, you can't see anything inside the pipes near us, so I don't think the optic cable has been inserted yet. I made a point of inspecting a section of the pipe in Girne and there was a yellow tape accompanying the piping. It quite clearly said 'Fibre optic cable' on it but I don't imagine they think it will be at risk in the wilds but in towns where it runs along side other utilities there is an increased risk of damage when other works are undertaken in urban areas, so maybe the entire length is not delineated with said tape.

However it is interesting that it appears to go all the way to to the local water tanks... that of course could be a mistake on the part of those laying the orange piping - never heard of here.....

sophie · Post by **sophie** » Tue 13 Oct 2015 11:17 am

Because of the amount of road going past our property and the fact that we have had to put up with months of distruption both water and the orange cables have been layed I can confirm the following. First water pipes were buried 2.5 mtr down and then filled in with soil to the surface. 4 weeks later this soil was dug up again to a depth of 1.5 mtr and the orange "piping" laid and then filled to the surface with soil. Everyso often there is orange piping sticking up for a foot or so and yellow, white or yellow and green tape wrapped around it which reads Fibre Optic Cable. This could mean what it says, or it could mean they had some spare sticky tape, who knows!!! BTW the orange piping appears to have two distinct sections - sort of like one way up and one way down. That's my technical description of it!!!

Geoff1131 · Post by **Geoff1131** » Tue 13 Oct 2015 11:23 am

The guy i spoke to about the orange twin pipe was a very well mannered well educated Turkish engineer who was supervising a particularly critical part of the water pipe line. He seemed in no doubt that the twin pipe was for telephone and internet use. But of course he could be wrong.

Geoff.

Jonnie · Post by **Jonnie** » Tue 13 Oct 2015 12:35 pm

I suspect then it is for some sort of data cable not so much for telephone and internet but for some sort of integrity monitoring system.

a1sysman · Post by **a1sysman** » Wed 14 Oct 2015 2:55 pm

Wow. Have you seen this public video?

https://www.facebook.com/semi.mutsuz/vi ... 485999701/

and this one...

https://www.facebook.com/sosyalmedyatvk ... 4/?fref=nf

Groucho · Post by **Groucho** » Thu 15 Oct 2015 7:53 pm

Water now flowing into the Gecitkoy Dam

jimm · Post by **jimm** » Fri 16 Oct 2015 3:19 am

Now the south are saying it is an illegal pipeline why don't they accept that some Turkish things are good for the island instead of branding everything they do as illegal.

Art · Post by **Art** » Fri 16 Oct 2015 5:45 am

Think they are just looking for an excuse to walk away from the talks.

Deniz1 · Post by **Deniz1** » Fri 16 Oct 2015 8:45 am

If they suddenly need water from us will it still be illegal then?

chiangbill · Post by **chiangbill** » Fri 16 Oct 2015 9:05 am

http://www.lgcnews.com/south-slams-turk ... -for-trnc/

More arguments brewing i think.

a1sysman · Post by **a1sysman** » Thu 22 Oct 2015 4:10 pm

I think the land value percentage increase is a tad optimistic...

http://www.dailysabah.com/real-estate/2 ... and-prices

elizabeth · Post by **elizabeth** » Thu 22 Oct 2015 8:46 pm

a1sysman wrote:I think the land value percentage increase is a tad optimistic...

http://www.dailysabah.com/real-estate/2 ... and-prices

A bit of wishful thinking there perhaps, or someone seeing £ signs.

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