Very few subjects of general interest.

[jofra]

Now back to the serious part - See....!!
I said "watching paint dry is so much more intellectualy stimulating..." - and here it is! It's also in the Mirror, the Western Daily Press and on't'net.....
Now this must be of interest!

[Groucho]

Now back to the serious part - See....!!
I said "watching paint dry is so much more intellectualy stimulating..." - and here it is! It's also in the Mirror, the Western Daily Press and on't'net.....
Now this must be of interest!

Very few people watching paint dry do so through an electron microscope so I guess we will have to remain bored by the process in the main.

[Ragged Robin]

With respect Posh I have in the past sent email and pms to mods regarding posts I objected to and not had he courtesy of an acknowledgement of receipt let alone a response or commment. I dont want to embarrass you (it is a different subject and spillled milk now, and misundersanding was sorted out by another poster) but I have just checked my memory is not a fault and the pm to you is still sitting there waiting for a reply!

I did not raise the closing of the town dogs post because I did not want to waste moreof my time, but several other posters have supported by view closing it was unnecessary and perverse.

[PoshinDevon]

RR .... as this is a discussion between the two of us, I will not reply online but have sent you a pm.

[Traveller0392]

I attended the funeral of a good friend recently and without the post on Kibkom, would have known nothing about it. As for lost dogs, problems with your internet and where's the local tax office, there is lots of relevant information. Sometimes we even get the 'gossip' or there's a little fracas online, all good entertainment.

To be honest, as someone who spends most their life of Facebook and Social media, there is something unique about this forum. You can see 'hot' topics, and yes people do read them. Maybe not looking to comment, but snippets of info that can assist in daily life in this secluded corner of the Med.

I think we need a suggestions posting, be creative, try to think a little more outside the box, pardon the euphemism, but it's much easier to complain that to suggest something positive.

Ps Roll on Spring ...

Kind regards

Ian Ratcliffe

[Ragged Robin]

With respect I have in the past sent pms to moderators and have not had the courtesy of a reply, let alone any action - there is I regret to stay still one to Posh months ago still awaiting a reply - water under the bridge now but not encouraging to contact them. W hich I why I didnt over the Town Dogs thread not wanting to waste more time but then the issue came up under another subject. I realise the mods are busy - all the more reason for not closing threads arbitrarily if they are proceeding amicably and all the more upsetting because a thread that was positive and even friendly on an subject that is so emotive that it can raise strong feelings and controversy.

[PoshinDevon]

With respect I have in the past sent pms to moderators and have not had the courtesy of a reply, let alone any action - there is I regret to stay still one to Posh months ago still awaiting a reply - water under the bridge now but not encouraging to contact them. W hich I why I didnt over the Town Dogs thread not wanting to waste more time but then the issue came up under another subject. I realise the mods are busy - all the more reason for not closing threads arbitrarily if they are proceeding amicably and all the more upsetting because a thread that was positive and even friendly on an subject that is so emotive that it can raise strong feelings and controversy.

RR

As I said in my post number 54, I have sent you a pm.

I think that if you have any issues with moderation it is far better to raise directly with a moderator or if you feel it necessary, directly with Soner.

I am not going to comment further on your postings as I feel I have tried to explain things from a moderators perspective. I will only to say that you may well have sent me a pm sometime in the past, however I can confirm that I did not receive and hence did not reply. If you did not get a response you could always have chased me for a reply and resent the pm or even sent an email. As you have said it is a few months ago since you sent the pm there is nothing more for me to say on the matter.

[turtle]

But RR has done that .....without success ?

[Soner]

As sometimes posts do not get submitted, this also sometime happens with PM's - a glitch in the system which up until now I have not been able to resolve. Ragged Robin this may have happened with email you had sent to Posh. As for Feral dogs thread, I had done a search in the Moderators Logs and there was no thread to be found - could have been a glitch in the system too.

[kerry 6138]

Is Ardstawray still following this thread or has the interest waned?

[ardstrawray]

Is Ardstawray still following this thread or has the interest waned?

Yes, just started the thread to generate a little debate, away from all the sales and wants ads. which I think is has done.

[Groucho]

As sometimes posts do not get submitted, this also sometime happens with PM's - a glitch in the system which up until now I have not been able to resolve. Ragged Robin this may have happened with email you had sent to Posh. As for Feral dogs thread, I had done a search in the Moderators Logs and there was no thread to be found - could have been a glitch in the system too.

When two posters' attempts to post on a thread coincide the first into the mix knocks-back the second. This makes sense.

I assume this is so that you can review your own post and the one that beat you to it, in order for you to decide whether you want to continue with the content of your own post or modify it or abandon it...

Why would you want to post it if the other post answered the query fully or yours would merely add nothing to the debate than the one that beat you to the draw....

You then can still submit your post but don't lose patience, look at the message returned and hit submit again if you still want your content posted.

I have never, ever lost a post in these circumstances... you just need to be aware of how it works.

[turtle]

I think the poster was referring to the problem with the system that if you spend time and thought typing a post only for it to disappear into the abyss.
Soner has address this issue a few times but it's a glitch that still exits and the thing to remember is if your post has taken a few minutes to type then it's wise to copy before posting then if it disappears then just patse it back in and post again straight away.

It is a bit annoying but it's what we have got so just remember "COPY & PASTE" your stress levels will drop I promise you

[jofra]

I've now got into the habit of writing my posts in Notepad; once finished, I copy and paste into the reply box , a quick preview and then submit - once it's visible, I then just delete Notepad!
I have noticed that the "disappearing" problem occurs only (for me) on this forum; another forum I frequent also uses phpBB forum software - without this glitch. However, theirs carries a "© 2001, 2005" tag, so is Kibcom's one of the newer "improved" (!) versions - like Vista over XP......

[Ragged Robin]

I am the first to admit that I am far from computer literate and I do experience problems with this Forum in particular. I am not however totally stupid, I am aware that glitches do occur, particularly when two posts coincide and I have also worked out the to my mind rather strange system of "out box" and "send".

I also consider that I am old and experienced enough to judge when I want to hold a private conversation (which I would do by preference by email or telephone) or when I want to contribute and /or invite contributions from others on a public forum on subjects of general interest and perhaps in the public interest to debate.

I consider that discussion of the principles moderation of a forum is in the interests of admin and the mods themselves as well as those using it, not just between a mod and a poster. Discussion of one post in particular , rather then general policy, is a different matter and will vary according to circumstances.

For the record on the earlier post I sent a pm to both Posh and Soner and when I got no reply sent an email each to which I also got no reply. Strange tha four communication by different means should all encounter technical hitches. I rather regret raising it as the importance of the subject is out of proportion to the amount of time it has taken up, it was reallly just to demonstrate that "pm a mod" is not the cure alll for all problems!

I will double check the titles of the dogs thread and post again. Otherwise sadly as far I am concerned this subject is closed and I can only regret that I have obviously not made my points clear.

[Ragged Robin]

Kyrenia Town Dogs: Post started on 20/1/16 by Panchocat

Feral Dogs, Strays and Town dogs Post 25/1/16 by Ragged Robin.

Both found through "search" icon ontop l/h side. Just needs persistance: the first try it told my there were not posts with the word "dogs" ( ) and I can understand the logic of the order of the posts, but they are there!

[Ragged Robin]

If all else fails try the obvious. Both "doggy" posts are on the first page of the "Pets and Animals" Board.

Have a good evening all........................

[turtle]

RR don't despair,....you have made yourself perfectly clear

I too have sent pm's to mods in the past without a reply and generally they are on the subject of closed threads, perhaps they don't think an explanation is due on a thread that has been closed or which I think is more to the point this forum format is far from perfect and as posts go missing perhaps pm's do the same ...who know's

[mrsgee]

And this. my friends, demonstrates very well why moderators are needed.......from a subject of 'very few subjects of general interest' it has now turned into a tennis match....back and forth about some thread or other(s) that RR has taken exception to. Please don't anyone shoot me down in flames....this is just a genuine comment.....I find the board extremely useful...IF YOU USE IT PROPERLY........please stop slagging off the moderators or adminstraters, whatever you like to call them. If you don't like it, LEAVE and set up your own which I am sure you will manage much better......my thanks go to soner and the moderators who have a thankless task!!!!!

[Ragged Robin]

RR don't despair,....you have made yourself perfectly clear

I too have sent pm's to mods in the past without a reply and generally they are on the subject of closed threads, perhaps they don't think an explanation is due on a thread that has been closed or which I think is more to the point this forum format is far from perfect and as posts go missing perhaps pm's do the same ...who know's

Thank you Turtle for the reasssurance . It is worrying (as well as time wasting) for those of us who have not had the opportunity to become expert on the internet when things apparently go wrong. Of course the internet is a very new and technical problems can develop and no human being is perfect; but how much better when those in che to admit there was a glitch or human error, misjudgement or oversight and apologise rather than try to claim all is perfect and poor "victim" worrying about what he has done wrong or spend time an d money checking his or her equipment. Of course I have seen enough posts to realise I was not the only one suffering from disappearing posts, and that the mods apparently see no reason to explain their decisions which I find hard to cope with as I was introduced to posting on a forum where the mods made a point of explaining and getting the support of most posters.

[Soner]

This is getting beyond ridiculous. Moderators do not have to explain their actions. Read the forum rules.
Ragged Robin, I do not recollect receiving an email from you, if I did and did not respond, then I apologies for having to deal with other work issues that were probably more important, your correspondence may have got lost/forgotten amongst the hundreds of emails I deal with on a daily basis.

I work on this forum 365.25 days a year, and I do have other businesses and customers which take priority, which without, this forum would not exist.

Issue with long posts disappearing when submitting is still being looked into by my programmers and will be resolved as soon as they can find a fix.

Please take into consideration that Moderators are giving their free time to keep this forum going, they too deal with emails and PM's from members, and they also do have other commitments which take priority.

I am happy to admit that we are only human, therefore, by no means perfect.

[Ragged Robin]

When ever I log on all I see is people selling their unwanted goods, and estate agents trying to unload property. Surely there must be matters TRNC and the world in general that people are interested in.

I
To go back strictly on topic :if you look at the Board Index you will see the number of topics and posts under different headings. And indeed IItems under "Sales " and "Items" wanted are far more than any other subject, even the much maligned animals thread (though here it just says Pets) is more than halfway down the "league table". Perhaps that says it all about priorities!

[Keithcaley]

RR I cannot understand what point you are trying to make in your most recent post.

When you say "Perhaps that says it all about priorities!" - To WHOSE priorities are you referring?

[Dalartokat]

Actually Soner changed the heading from "Pets" to "Pets & Animals" some time back when there was a thread regarding a Horse. It seemed that no one noticed. At that time Soner was well aware of all the postings regarding Dogs etc. but was dealing with the attacks on the forum and I think at times, Soner has been very lenient where postings are ending up.

Just my two penny worth.

[Ragged Robin]

It still says just "Pets" on my Board Index!? I must admit I hadnt noticed before - it was only when I went to the Pets thread to find my earlier post and check my memory was correct that I noticed how few threads and posts there were under the subject considering that some people think there are too many, and then thought to look at the number of threads/posts on other subjects. Normally (at Keith's ssuggestion I think ) I go straight into "Active topics"

RE priorities - well those of the people who use the Forum presumably, and maybe by extension to expat community, though I am not sure as I dont know what proportion of the community use the board.. A case of "if the cap fits" really!

[Keithcaley]

...RE priorities - well those of the people who use the Forum presumably, and maybe by extension to expat community, though I am not sure as I dont know what proportion of the community use the board.. A case of "if the cap fits" really!

Oh I see, so you're saying that people in general have more items to sell, than they have things to say about 'Pets'... Is that the point that you're trying to make?

Are we supposed to draw some sort of conclusion from this? - It sounds a fairly reasonable statistic, I'm still not sure what your point is...

p.s. Instead of 'Active Topics', try 'View unread Posts' - as long as you're logged in to the Forum (and I never log out ! ) then the Forum software knows which posts you have already read, and will simply present you with threads which contain posts that you haven't read - saves loads of time

[Ragged Robin]

Keith: I think you are "crediting" me with deeper motives than I have. I simply noted by accident in the course of looking for something else, that the poster's complaint that most posts were about buying and sellling things was supported by the official board figures - I thought it was interesting that these predominated and people can draw their own conclusions but the words "mercenary" and "pecuniary" spring to mind. I also noted and reported since it was relevant to the general discussion that there were relatively few posts about "pets" (or animals). This surprised me because there have been so many complaints by some posters about the number of posts about animals and this has been used by mods as justification for moving and/or closing threads. Again I think people can draw their own conclusions . II thought there had been more - perhaps they have been put somewhere else but I too have other things todo and am fed up with the whole thing and havent time to go looking for them.

Thank for the suggestion but I dont use the "unread threads" because what I usually do is read the posts comparatively early in the day, and go back later on when I have had a think about which posts I want to reply to and what I wan to say. And sometimes they get put off for a day if something else comes up or I have emails to deal with. Of course the ones I read earlier dont show up because I have already read them!I

I wish I had done that with this thread and never touched ****** thing it has caused me so much time and aggro and my own four legged friends are complaining of neglect!

Happy Easter all ..............................................

[Keithcaley]

...I simply noted...that the poster's complaint that most posts were about buying and sellling things was supported by the official board figures...

Right! - Got it!

The problem was that this was on post 45 of the thread, and without a direct reference (or my having the sense to refer back to post number one ) I couldn't see what you were getting at, there had been so many points raised en-route that the subject had become somewhat obfuscated

...and a Happy Easter to you too!

[PoshinDevon]

I believe this topic has now run its course. If you read the original posting it raised the subject of lack of topics of general interest. Over the almost 80 postings the thread has drifted from easter eggs, animals and moderation and it is now confusing as to what is being discussed.

Therefore the thread will be locked. Please feel free to start a new thread on a particular subject.

Moderators have within this thread, tried to explain briefly how we operate. Please be aware that if anyone has any
concerns about board moderation, postings or suggestions for improvement the best way to communicate this is to either pm or email one or all moderators. We are not permanently online but we do try to respond when time permits.