Referendum

[woodspeckie]

Two expats have lost their case at the high court against being refused voting in the June referendum because they have lived abroad more than 15 years, they are going to appeal they say the in or out voting effects them.

[sophie]

I filled in all the reams of paper work supplied on the net, including the address and area I wanted to be represented in plus as requested the area I last voted in and eventually I received the OK from the electoral role office where I lasted voted. So presumably there is someone living in the house we last owned, with myself registered. They'll be chuffed won't they? Still not convinced it gives me a right to vote. Lost the will to live by the end of the questions and in any case it asked me to name a proxy and I don't have one where they have registered me.

[waddo]

You could ask for a postal vote, I did and they will send it to me on the 23rd of May which may just give me enough time to send it back again - damn pigs keep flying past and putting me off - but if I get it in time I am going to walk across Ledra and post it in the South. If I don't get it in time I will just shout "NO" from the back garden and hope somebody hears me - lol.

[brian24001]

I registered a proxy by email, quick and easy and all done in about 3 days.

No need for a postal slip or vote to go missing, just get someone you trust to tick a box for you.

If I was one of those denied a vote, I would register at a friends a house, or a B&B, return to the yUK for a day (for the vote) and depart again the next day.

Job done and another tick for the 'OUT' box.

[erol]

I registered a proxy by email, quick and easy and all done in about 3 days.

As it seemed to me, IF you have someone you trust sufficiently who lives in the area you are registered to vote in, then proxy is a good option. If as in my case, the people you might trust to actually vote on your behalf and to do so according to your wishes are not themselves in the area you are registered in, then its not such a good option, imo at least, which is why I opted for postal ballot (but to south PO box) myself.

[brian24001]

I registered a proxy by email, quick and easy and all done in about 3 days.

As it seemed to me, IF you have someone you trust sufficiently who lives in the area you are registered to vote in, then proxy is a good option. If as in my case, the people you might trust to actually vote on your behalf and to do so according to your wishes are not themselves in the area you are registered in, then its not such a good option, imo at least, which is why I opted for postal ballot (but to south PO box) myself.

We are indeed very lucky. My Mother in Law (voting for my wife) or Father in Law (voting for me) will without question vote as asked irrespective of how they vote themselves.

It's a great shame that not everyone can rely on other for their integrity.

Hope it all goes well via post for you Erol, and anyone else using the same system.

[woodspeckie]

I registered a proxy by email, quick and easy and all done in about 3 days.

No need for a postal slip or vote to go missing, just get someone you trust to tick a box for you.

If I was one of those denied a vote, I would register at a friends a house, or a B&B, return to the yUK for a day (for the vote) and depart again the next day.

Job done and another tick for the 'OUT' box.

They both want to stay in, one aged 94 lives in Italy the other lives in Belgium.

[brian24001]

The requirement for not living abroad for 'any' length of time is outrageous.

The way the yUK discriminates against it's own citizens, yet supports other counties citizens at the expense of it's own people is nothing short of criminal.

I wonder if the Gov has an underlying concern that people having been out of the country for so long would automatically vote 'OUT' for some reason, but I suspect that for many living within the Failed Union that is not the case.

Might all be irrelevant soon with Holland, France and now Germany pushing almost as hard for their own referendums.

[Dalartokat]

Two expats have lost their case at the high court against being refused voting in the June referendum because they have lived abroad more than 15 years, they are going to appeal they say the in or out voting effects them.

They have now been granted leave to appeal.....




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[waz-24-7]

Let me get a handle on this.
Many Ex pats living offshore feel there is a right to vote on their homeland's future in the EU economic community.
It does indeed effect those opinionated persons and indeed anyone with Ex at status (all currently EU members)
By the same token in the event of an exit those same people will certainly be even more effected.
Think about it.. As European members with European wide rights, protections and status. As divorcees from that club how may if effect you?
I think its a no brainer for anyone offshore from the UK.

[kerry 6138]

If its a no brainer why not let them vote they should be in the group of most pro EU after all, bearing in mind they chose to move to your beloved EU.
Have you googled the list of who's entitled to vote?

[old trucker]

OUT why should tax payers haveto pay child allowance for children that don't live in the UK

[waddo]

Why not? Taxpayers already gave away £11.3 Billion in the year 2013 in foreign aid and that figure rises every year - nobody moans about that so OUT on the sole reason of paying for child allowance is not really going to solve the bigger problems!

[kerry 6138]

Although i'm an out voter it is frustrating that the UK gov doesn't adapt our laws to changing situations quickly enough, all the EU asks is that we treat everyone the same is it beyond our MP's to bring in rules which dont decriminate,
i.e. all children must be living in UK no matter what nationality, - to be entitled to benefits you or your parents need to have paid 3 years NI

[waddo]

So would you add an extra rule to that rule? If not I guess the parents of serving military personnel who are living abroad on postings would receive no child benefit because their children would be living abroad with them! Sounds about right and the way the Government treat the military anyway.

[kerry 6138]

Or on Crown service overseas. answer is yes change laws which the electorate think are not fair.
I gave a off the top of head answer to a previous post about child benefit not a well thought out plan, the overseas aid budget is an issue in the UK I dont like that we send tax payers money to india while India sends men into space, but thats not affected whether we are in or out of the EU

[waz-24-7]

It would appear that the government ( who are actively IN) endeavour to hinder ex pats from the voting in the June 23rd referendum.
Possibly the view is that Ex pats will vote OUT having left the UK because for one reason or another the UK is no longer their chosen residence. Why?
Perhaps they felt let down, perhaps UK/EU issues influenced their decision to leave. Certainly my experience is that TRNC ex pats are, extremely and rightfully so, proud of their heritage and their homeland.
Although the current on line vote goes against my own view (IN). Ex pats should be allowed to vote. Saying that the TRNC administration, economy, rules and attempt at legislation makes the UK and the EU as a residence look very attractive indeed.