Residencies for over 60's xx

[wibow]

Hi
I'm making an enquiry for a friend
Due to unforseen circumstances back in the UK
her Residency ran out in February
So when she returned the other day, she was asked about her residency stamp
which she explained, she was given 90 days stamped in her passport.
So does that mean she has to leave and come back before the 90 days are up
My friend is well in her 80's, so she doesn't really have to get a residency stamp
She's also worried that IF she decides to re-new her residency she will have to start from scratch

Any help on this subject would be much appreciated. Thank you xx

[stellasstar1]

I can't understand why she was given 90 days as there are a lot of us over 60's who no longer get temporary residency and and I go over to the South regularly. No one stamps my passport or says anything when I go back and forth. If she had just said she was over 60 then probably they would have let her through. How long had she been out of the country? Maybe they thought she was a visitor hence the 90 days.

[jimm127]

HI
It is only when you leave the country (ie go through Ercan), that they stamp your passport and they always write on 90 days. This has happened to me many times. When you go to the south (with the new system) they do not stamp your passport and no longer give you a visa form. I asked once and was told that when you had your details entered on the computer it implied a 90 day visa, but that once you were over 60 it was just because they had to put a figure on their system and it wasn't ever going to be applied as only 90 days. Hope this helps.

[kerry 6138]

There's been many posts on this subject, my understanding is thst if you want to stay more than 90 day's in a 12 month period you should apply for the 12 month permit, however there is a gentleman's agreement that over 60's need not apply. although this agreement throws up some anomalies for example applying for TRNC drivers license which requires you to have a residence stamp in your passport.
It maybe worth going to Girne police and speaking with immigration there specifically about your friends details.

[tomsteel]

Over 60s do not require a 'visitors' stamp annotated in their passport to acquire a TRNC DL. A letter from your muhter confirming your address will suffice along with the other documents required and the money for the period of licence sought. Does a well over 80s visitor contemplate driving here? Does she still have a valid UK DL? I would endorse the advice to seek immigration advice, but from your nearest police HQ, which may not be in Girne.

[taurus]

My husband and i are also over 60 and we have not renewed our residency, returning into Ercan in March we also got the 90 day stamp in
our passports. We do know of a person whom until recently worked for the immigration at Ercan, my husband asked our friend why our passports show 90 day's, she said an entry has to be entered into the system but that's all it mean's, so not to take any notice of it.

[kerry 6138]

Stand corrected thankyou Tomsteel

[tomsteel]

You were not being corrected, but the information accuracy was. Sorry if you took it personally. However, this subject has been on the forum more times than I can care to remember. Why will users not use the 'search' facility?

[kerry 6138]

No problem TS things change all the time,has you alluded its probably not a issue here
BRS SITE
Foreigners in North Cyprus on a visit visa may use their national driving licence for up to 3 months.
 
Those wishing to drive for longer than 3 months should apply for a TRNC licence. Requirements are -
 
a)  Passport bearing a residence stamp, a photocopy of photo page and permit
b)  2 passport size photos
c)  Original and a photocopy of the national driving licence
d)  Application form
e)  Fee (depends on validity of licence – 1,2,3,5 or 10 years; at a cost of 152 TL, 224 TL, 303 TL, 457 TL and 754TL respectively, as at 1st FEB,2016)

RENEWAL

As of the 1st JANUARY 2016 a new system for renewing your TRNC driving licence has come into effect. You can now apply for a licence renewal for up to a 10 year period at the current cost of 754 TL

To renew your licence all of the above are required except you need to produce your last TRNC licence instead of your national driving licence and whether or not you hold a current Temporary Residence permit you do not need a Muhtars letter as part of the application process.

[Marions]

Thank you so much. I need to renew this year and you have saved me time in doing homework. Maybe by the time I renew it may have changed , but Ihope not. So, really, thanks so much. Very helpful indeed.

[wibow]

Hi
I appreciate all your replies on this subject
But my friend has lived here 10 years and has always done her residency
apart from what happened to her earlier this year, ( unforeseen circumstances ) thats why she couldn't re-new
She still drives, but we heard you can still get your TRNC driving licence without a residency
I will tell her she needs to go and speak to someone in Immigration, just for peace of mind.

Once again thank you xx

[jimm]

I have just got my TRNC license and do not have residency

[Groucho]

I have just got my TRNC license and do not have residency

Trouble is - that could just be an aberration caused by lack of attention on the part of the Civil Servant issuing it - for each who doesn't need it, there is one that does.... it's just how things are here but I wouldn't want to rely on it in court....

Ask 4 different civil servants get 5 different answers - none of which is correct at time of going to press!

[jimm]

Groucho I got it done with the girls from the driving school who assured me I did not need residency as I was over 60

[teatime]

Renewing a driving licence does not require a residence stamp or Muktars letter. There is a list of what is needed, in English, pinned up at the counter where you get the renewal done in the Girne office.

[sophie]

Oh, superduperdoooooooooooo. I can obtain a 10 year DL and look years younger than in reality!!

[Marions]

What other country in the world would give you a 10 year licence to drive on their roads when you have no written right to live there??????????????

[kerry 6138]

This thread shows its worth asking for the most upto date information not just searching past answers, hope your friend got sorted Wibow
Has anyone been able to get in writing they would be fully covered without a stamp, I would hate to be the first in court facing a large personal injury claim without a stamp saying I can live here, even if its only a 12 month visit visa .

[thickey]

If you don’t have a residency stamp in your passport when applying for a TRNC driving license you will need a Muhtar’s letter to confirm your place of residence together with the other necessary documents.From the BRS SITE

[tomsteel]

kerry 6138, I am sure your query on car insurance and lack of visitors stamp invalidating car insurance has been raised before. I recall the advice was to check with your personal broker as he she would know what the actual insurance company policy is.

thicker, previous posts have indicated the BRS Site is out of date. Who knows?

[Becker]

We are quite friendly with an immigration officer who works in Lefkosa. I asked his opinion over should we,shouldn't we. He said, over sixties don't need it as it stands at the moment, however he also advised us to renew temp residency as there is nothing in writing. For the cost of less than a couple of beers a week, we would rather be safe than sorry. Our insurers (Ergunes Sigorta) also advised us the same,in the case of an accident then you will be covered 100%!

[PoshinDevon]

We are quite friendly with an immigration officer who works in Lefkosa. I asked his opinion over should we,shouldn't we. He said, over sixties don't need it as it stands at the moment, however he also advised us to renew temp residency as there is nothing in writing. For the cost of less than a couple of beers a week, we would rather be safe than sorry. Our insurers (Ergunes Sigorta) also advised us the same,in the case of an accident then you will be covered 100%!

I would agree. What must be remembered always is that ths residency for the over 60s is a sort of gentlemans agreement. It is not enshrined in law. Some may well be happy with this. For us and others, we just feel that to avoid any possible hassle at the border crossing, car insurance etc etc we prefer to just renew our extended visa or temp residency as it is known.

As others have said, for the cost of a couple of beers a week its worth it for peace of mind.

[Bahceliboy5]

There's been many posts on this subject, my understanding is thst if you want to stay more than 90 day's in a 12 month period you should apply for the 12 month permit, however there is a gentleman's agreement that over 60's need not apply. although this agreement throws up some anomalies for example applying for TRNC drivers license which requires you to have a residence stamp in your passport.
It maybe worth going to Girne police and speaking with immigration there specifically about your friends details.

I have not got residency and providing you get a letter from your Muhtar there shouldn't be a problem obtaining your driving license.I renewed mine last week,no problems.

[kerry 6138]

Thanks Bacheliboy5 it seems they have caught up , BRS need to update their site unless its only a problem with initial applications not renewals.

[Mufflet]

What a wonderful conversation. I am over 60, different for 50's, never renewed for years, no problem, never crossed to the South side. Several comments, not written legislation etc, once it is, then apply for temporary residency. Remember, you spend your pension here in local shops, someone probably notices that. I suspect the authorities are not about to turn up on your door and drag you off . I'm a believer in living with the law of the land, but until the decree comes, then I intend to carry on. Oh, by the way renewed my driving licence with no problem.

[kerry 6138]

What a wonderful conversation. I am over 60, different for 50's, never renewed for years, no problem, never crossed to the South side. Several comments, not written legislation etc, once it is, then apply for temporary residency. Remember, you spend your pension here in local shops, someone probably notices that. I suspect the authorities are not about to turn up on your door and drag you off . I'm a believer in living with the law of the land, but until the decree comes, then I intend to carry on. Oh, by the way renewed my driving licence with no problem.

I think thats why this thread is still ongoing the written legislation doesn't exclude the over 60's currently just a gentleman's agreement not to enforce it for the over 60's

[PoshinDevon]

I can understand both sides of the coin, so to speak. At the end of the day its whatever people who are over 60 feel most comfortable with. We have not quite hit that magic number yet, but at the moment all things considered we are likely to continue with the extended visa/temp residency process. It seems for us to give peace of mind for the relatively small cost and a couple of hours required to sort it out.

[waddo]

Anybody taken up the permanent residency offer yet?