Ashamed to be British

[scubadubaqueen]

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Frankly reading what is going now, and in particular the rise of xenophobic attacks, I feel ashamed to be British.

Whilst I may not agree with you, I can accept the votes from Brexit people who made an informed choice after considering all the facts, but to all of you who voted for Brexit on the basis of propaganda that you will "Get Your Country Back" and get rid of immigrants, well I am afraid you are very much mistaken. Indeed if Britain comes out of the EU then the land/sea border will no longer be in France, and if I were they I would let them flow across the English Channel too from Dunkirk, Calais or wherever. At this moment they are contained with only a trickle, in comparison to the potential for masses, making it across. So what is your plan?

To all of you that voted for Brexit on the basis that you would see a massive regeneration of the NHS, well you ALL now know that this was blatant mis-selling to the ignorant and easily manipulated; By Nigel Farage's own admission it was a mistake, or in honesty a lie to whip up populist votes. Such a lie is, in my opinion, equidistant with being able to return something to a shop, as being not as described and getting a full refund. So in this case another referendum, and if you are against that, one wonders why?

To those of you who voted for Brexit without giving real consideration to the facts, who are now waving your flags and declaring Independence Day and posting insults and jeering on this forum and all over, you will not be celebrating for long. This is not going to generate more jobs for anyone, far from it, people will lose their jobs. Of course many areas of the UK have now woken up to the fact that they will no longer be propped up by the EU either.... Shame! Cornwall being a prime example. Never mind, perhaps they can export Cornish Pasties and Cream Teas to China then?

And you people that live in the TRNC waiving your flags of nostalgia, just watch your spending power being cut too,
affecting others around you as you tighten your belts. Yes better you sell up now if you have got your Deeds, and go back to your "motherland" to drink beer, and talk to all your other disenfranchised friends down your local boozer.

I just hope that the MPs will vote against this misguided advisory referendum, even if it means voting against their constituents. The Scottish MPs will certainly veto it, and have a very strong case now to break up the United Kingdom. Meanwhile so much damage has been done, and there appears no strategy or plan to move forward, despite all the up talking, in order to try and steady the global markets.

As for Boris Johnson, well frankly he only had his self interests at heart to get in to No. 10 Downing Street..... Once in, he might even want to U Turn, given the wish wash he is now coming out with, about there being no hurry, and that the United Kingdom will always be part of Europe, talking about free trade, but the United Kingdom is not going to get that without free movement of people, because you cannot have your cake and eat it! So much for the Brexit talk then.

Meanwhile the EU want us out ASAP and will not even discuss the way forward until Article 50 of the Lisbon Treaty is evoked, and this is irrevocable. The United Kingdom was stronger IN than out and a well respected and great force of power within that Union, and indeed the world. Now it appears the Country will have little say at all. Now take the GREAT out of Britain.

Found this blog, and could not agree with the sentiments more....
http://paulsutton.co/2016/06/26/how-bre ... ed-nation/

I ALONG WITH MANY OTHERS, AM ASHAMED TO BE BRITISH RIGHT NOW.

[johnerebus]

I could not dig; I dared not rob:
Therefore I lied to please the mob.
Now all my lies are proved untrue
And I must face the men I slew.
What tale shall serve me here among
Mine angry and defrauded young?
Rudyard Kipling

[waz-24-7]

I must agree and line up with scubaduba queen.

Do I blame the alleged ignorant and easily led..
Yes I do.
Never in my recollection has so much damage been inflicted upon a nation in such a short time as we have seen in recent days.
Democracy has taken its course as it has also inflicted irreparable damage on persons that do not deserve it.
The demise of the UK as we knew it only last week has been totally self inflicted and the mongers of this carnage are now no where to be seen.
Their blatant lies and untruths are now laid bare to be seen and the opening post is correct.

Anyone who continues to fly the flag of BREXIT should step up and account to those of us your have damaged and scorned.

[Keithcaley]

Here's that darned missing thread...

[mickhm]

So anyone who disagrees with you is ignorant and easily led. "Easily led" apparently not they voted out not remain. The vote is over remain lost get over it and move on or move out.

[WotNoDeeds]

Ashamed to have voted remain you mean because anyone who did was advocating having that there nation state be abolished there sovereignty handed to Brussels there army , borders everything would have been controlled by the Brussels E.U. Eurocrats those who voted remain should have thought about there decision very carefully instead of stabbing the country there born in in the back.

"Anyone who continues to fly the flag of BREXIT should step up and account to those of us your have damaged and scorned"

I would never account to those who are traitors to there country and voted to remain if they want to leave then go I'll help you pack.

[Groucho]

Anyone who continues to fly the flag of BREXIT should step up and account to those of us your have damaged and scorned.

Well it's nearly English - This kind of rhetoric makes me all the more sure the remain voters have no answers other than finger pointing...

You really need to get a grip, dry your eyes and get over yourself....

[Keithcaley]

Posts 5 and 6 - whom are you actually addressing?

It does make it difficult to know, if you don't use either a name or a post number to indicate...

Or are you just making general comments, unrelated to any of the posts that have been made on this thread?

[niceone]

I would never account to those who are traitors to there country and voted to remain if they want to leave then go I'll help you pack.

[/quote]

How dare you call People traitors, everyone voted for what they think was right for their (not there) country

[turtle]

I must agree and line up with scubaduba queen.

Do I blame the alleged ignorant and easily led..
Yes I do.
Never in my recollection has so much damage been inflicted upon a nation in such a short time as we have seen in recent days.
Democracy has taken its course as it has also inflicted irreparable damage on persons that do not deserve it.
The demise of the UK as we knew it only last week has been totally self inflicted and the mongers of this carnage are now no where to be seen.
Their blatant lies and untruths are now laid bare to be seen and the opening post is correct.

Anyone who continues to fly the flag of BREXIT should step up and account to those of us your have damaged and scorned.

Err no I don't have to account for anything,.... and I certainly don't have to answer to YOU.
Its people with your views that have done more damage to our sovereign state over the last 15yrs and dare I say this is not about Brexit it's more about your personal wealth that may be hit in the short term. Get over it and move on.

[rocking]

"Ignorant, easily led" don't you dare call me that, who do you think you are to say such a thing to so many people who didn't vote your way, what an arrogant man/woman you must be. Please God you do not speak for the remain party, I would have run straight to Brexit, although I was Brexit anyway.

[Steve C]

And this is exactly the ignorant condescending attitude they swayed people to vote to exit. Mind you Scotland is just over the border for those that want to leave.

[MoBry]

Thanks for having the guts to make this comment, Scubadubaqueen, and sorry about some of the replies. Free speech? Wassat? I think it's a complicated situation for the Remain and Brexit voters, and only time will tell what the true consequences will be. But going back to the past isn't the answer, never has been, never will be.

[waz-24-7]

"Ignorant, easily led" don't you dare call me that, who do you think you are to say such a thing to so many people who didn't vote your way, what an arrogant man/woman you must be. Please God you do not speak for the remain party, I would have run straight to Brexit, although I was Brexit anyway.

Sorry but just look at the mess that has been left for the government to sort out by the now worryingly absent BREXIT camp.
Mt Johnson has failed to step up and yet now follows the "we do need the common market after all"
Mr Farage and his right of right wing attitude has left us with the beginnings of ethnic cleansing here in the UK as racial hatred is spreading in just last few days.
The promises of new NHS funding and all the rest of the complete pigwash has left the Farage "independence day" a very damp squid.
The BREXIT camp are clinging to every morsel of currency, market or confidence change as if to gloss over what is very possibly a misguided decision.
Unless of course that is what we want in the UK?

The fact is the bitter pill that has been dealt to us all is self inflicted by the majority. The 16 million people who voted remain and the millions of teenagers 16-18 yrs who should have been granted a vote ( in my opinion) are cross about it.

Are you indeed certain you made the correct decision?

[Soner]

What's done is done. Why are you all so divided? There may have been misunderstandings and misinterpretations by both Leave and Remain supporters. The whole of the UK is currently in limbo. The majority have voted whether you think right or wrong. Time to move on and try and make good, be positive, optimistic and wish and hope for the UK to come out of this better than they were under the EU, whether you voted Leave or voted Remain. We cannot turn the clocks back. We all may have to struggle somewhat over the next year or so, but we are all used to that. How many recessions have we all been through in the last 30 odd years and got through it?

Sorry, I have to close this thread as insults are being thrown back and forth, can't see it improving. Please respect other peoples personal opinions; that's all they are. We can't all think or be the same.

[Soner]

It's all starting to sound like a broken record. You have all stated your point, over and over again... time to move on.