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I realise this has to be done in order to have a clear out of the General Section, however its doesn't seem to be equal. I had a query regarding print on my PC being faint and it was moved to PC section extremely quickly. Whereas a query about dog boarding kennels, which I think should be in the pet section has been in General for days now. Am still waiting for help and assistance .

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Yes seems very arbitrary to me too. I had a topic moved very quickly too from the General Section!

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Sophie, are you just having a 'general rant' in order to let off some steam, or do you want a sensible response from someone who actually knows the answer?

If it's the latter, as I suspect, then I think that you would do well to send a PM to one of the moderators - 'Posh' seems to be the most active - and ask him

I'm sure that you're aware that the mods don't read every post, so there's a fair possibility that they won't read this...

Actually, I'm fairly sure that one of the mods did respond to a similar sort of query some time ago, but I can't be arsed to look it up Image

Over to you xxx

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There have been from time to time queries from several posters querying the agenda behind the apparently unfair decisions in moving posts. After spending ten minute finding where the "search" box was hidden and working out how it works , I looked under "moving (not "miving"!) subjects, "moving topics" and "moving posts" The searches landed me in mid topic in nine threads and it would have taken the rest of the night to sort out which were actually relevant and not using the key words in another context. Saying " do a seach " is not as easy as it sounds unless you are looking for something very specific.

I did however manage to confirm my recollection that the reaction of the mods was that they did not have time to read every post. I did not find the post to support my recollection that it had eventually been agreed that posts would be moved after 4 days on the main forum, except for lost and found animals (and presumably people!) which would be left for longer to give those who would not normally read the pets section but would be willing to keep their eyes open for a lost pet. This seems to have never been followed and I think that again the mods "protest too much" and the moving of issues is discriminatory. Their agenda is to my mind, somewhat dubious , and I doubt if they would be prepared to reconsider the issue in view of their reaction to other recent concerns of posters.

The placing of the list of subjects and its design and choice of subjects imho leaves a lot to be desired and could be a lot more user friendly, On the other hand the description of a subject more accurately by posters in the heading would hopefully help the mods in their task, and certainly help other posters in both what they chose to read and in subsequent searches.

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What does 'Miving' Mean?

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Philoz, It means that I shouldn't try typing without wearing my specs. I'm amazed you didn't pick me up on the spelling of feint/faint It wasn't a rant at all KC and yes I think I will send someone a pm. When a message is moved in a day and some remain for days, it is a bit galling. In principle I agree with the method, but sadly you can't always receive the help you are asking for because people don't always read the sub-sections. At least I received a pm telling me that the message had been moved and where.

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The rules are that members post in the appropriate section, otherwise thread is moved by moderators as soon as possible. New threads from charities are left for a few days before being moved. When we see threads concerning help for members, for instance medical help, then I would make thread a sticky and leave as long as possible. Threads of lost/found animals we try to leave for a couple of days before moving.

If you do want a thread up to be seen by all, then there is always the option of buying a global.

We try our best but cannot possible keep everyone happy. I could remove all categories for everyone to post in one section, I am sure there would be even more complaints.

Members that want to see all that is posted on forum use the View links.

Hope this helps.

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I use View active topics, via Bookmarks Bar...
http://www.kibkomnorthcyprusforum.com/s ... ive_topics
Works fine for me

How to use the bookmarks bar
https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/95745?hl=en
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I think over zealous moderating. It will not help the forum. I feel like it is dictating to us, I am not prepared to to be told what to do over a simple mistake.

Also I think from the point of view of the forum the General Forum should be busy, I was told I was clogging it up by putting a sport treated subject on there, ( I did not even know there was a sports section.)

But I would have thought more people would go to the main forum as opposed to sport, many people cant stand sport.

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Johnny Lee wrote:I think over zealous moderating. It will not help the forum. I feel like it is dictating to us, I am not prepared to to be told what to do over a simple mistake.

Also I think from the point of view of the forum the General Forum should be busy, I was told I was clogging it up by putting a sport treated subject on there, ( I did not even know there was a sports section.)

But I would have thought more people would go to the main forum as opposed to sport, many people cant stand sport.
There were two separate threads started on exactly the same subject - the resignation of the England football manager. One was posted in the sports section of the forum and the other was posted in the general area. Merging these two separate discussions in to one single thread / discussion was done to benefit all those those who wished to discuss this issue, yourself included. As you yourself point out, before merging these two threads you were not even aware that there was a sports section let alone that there was already a discussion elsewhere about the subject your were clearly interested in.

Nor were you told that your posting about the England manager in a thread started in the general forum was 'clogging up the forum'. What was requested from you was the following
Please do not just open whole new threads when you can not find a post of yours as it just clutters up the forum unnecessarily. Please just pm a moderator and they will help you.
If you think that a polite private request to you not post on the general forum 'where has my post gone' threads, when such can easily be answered in so many other ways either by yourself or by simply asking a moderator via a PM, is dictating to you and telling you what to do, then so be it.

Merging the two separate discussion on the same subject into one single thread / discussion was the right thing to do, for the forum generally and for those participating in that specific discussion, yourself included. Having the single merged thread placed in the Sports section of the forum was also the right thing to do. Someone who uses the forum occasionally and wants to simply catch up on discussions about 'sports' can go to that section and see all the latest posts on that subject and not have to trawl through pages and pages of threads in the general area to find those that are to do with sports.

I am sorry that you feel that perfectly reasonable actions , taken to benefit yourself and users of the forum in general, have been taken by you as some sort of personal affront. They were no such thing in reality.

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No not at all taken personally , but rules are there to be broken within reason. I just visualize the moderators sitting there in Traffic Warden Uniforms with nothing else to do but look for our mistakes. OK cluttering not clogging, but amounts to the same thing really.

At the end of the day its a public forum, not a Court of law.

I would not want a Mods. job and god knows why anyone does , but of course I understand you are needed.

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Johnny Lee wrote: OK cluttering not clogging, but amounts to the same thing really.
You misunderstand. You seem to think you were being told that your post about the England manager was 'cluttering or clogging' the forum because it was in the wrong section of the forum. This is not what you were told at all. It was suggested that your subsequent entirely new thread asking 'where has my post gone' that resulted from your earlier posted being merged and moved to sport, was unnecessary and just cluttering up the forum and this was what you were privately and politely asked to not do in the future.

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I don't even know how to email a mod. I tried to email you back but I don't think it worked. Like I said I did not take it personally at all and cluttered or clogged or whatever word. Does it really matter. I made a mistake , In future : I will try to behave.

England's Glory Matchbox. The man who never made a mistake never did anything.

Just a question I was told recently that none of our mods. actually reside in the T.R.N.C. surely this cannot be so.

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Johnny Lee wrote:and cluttered or clogged or whatever word. Does it really matter.
No, which word you use does not matter but your are still missing the point entirely. I will try one final time, without much hope.

Johnny Lee were you

"told I was clogging it [the forum] up by putting a sport treated subject on there [general chat]"

or

were you told starting a whole new thread in the general forum with the title "Where Did It Go ?" when you could not find one of your previous posts "just clutters up the forum unnecessarily" ?

You claimed the former. The truth is the latter.

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sophie wrote:Philoz, It means that I shouldn't try typing without wearing my specs. I'm amazed you didn't pick me up on the spelling of feint/faint It wasn't a rant at all KC and yes I think I will send someone a pm. When a message is moved in a day and some remain for days, it is a bit galling. In principle I agree with the method, but sadly you can't always receive the help you are asking for because people don't always read the sub-sections. At least I received a pm telling me that the message had been moved and where.
To avoid any misunderstandings, sophie, I only "picked up" "miving" because it threw me a bit when I tried to search. I assume that, and the "feint" which I also noticed were typos such as we all make from time to time and not justifying comment. In fact I refrain from commenting even when I notice the many ignorant grammar and spelling mistakes! I just wish people would be as tolerant of my lack of experience in the technology of posting, and make forums such as this more user friendly in several ways.

I wish you luck with your contact with the mods!

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I just simply asked a question on the forum Where Did It Go ? probably just best to let it go now , I am sure we all have many more important things in our lives.

Not all of us are computer literate .

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Lee, there's an easy way of finding your own posts, if you lose track of where you put them, or if they get moved...

Click on 'View your posts' on the black bar below the area where all of the different sections are listed.

This will display all of the threads to which you have contributed - they will be displayed in date order according to the latest post made on each thread by anyone - not necessarily the date that you made a post on that thread. This can be slightly confusing, but it does narrow the field a bit!

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Johnny Lee wrote:I just simply asked a question on the forum Where Did It Go ? probably just best to let it go now , I am sure we all have many more important things in our lives.

Not all of us are computer literate .
And I just simply and privately and politely asked you to not ask such a question by creating a new thread in the general forum section in the future because doing so just clutters up the forum unnecessarily. Why that then led to you deciding to use that as an excuse to publicly portray moderators here as "Traffic Warden Uniforms with nothing else to do but look for our mistakes" is something only you can answer.

Indeed we do all have more important things to do , myself included.

Anyone is never to old to learn but can be to stubborn or lazy i suppose.

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Thank You Kieth, yes it's easy to you computer geniuses, But I had never touched a computer until we moved here. I had computers in my business, but I took the attitude I pay people to deal with them and I shunned I.T. Big mistake of course.

I tried recently to reply to a P.M and finished up contacting Soner by mistake, he was most helpful after about 4 emails from Soner I managed it. But the guy who wanted to contact me is a computer Wizard and even he said he was a bit confused by the P.M. s.

It's a bit like me saying just make me a Genuine Madras Curry in 1 hour. Or a real Cornish Pasty

Inquit I do not think being rude or insulting is good moderating. I am far from Lazy , but maybe a bit stubborn. But you need to realise not everyone can just simply learn I.T.

I have many friends who are extremely clever and not lazy at all but they are not good with computers.

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I do not often find myself in agreement with Johnny Lee, but in this instance I wholeheartedly support him.

Not everyone is computer literate, that does not mean they are lazy or stupid ; they just may be better at other (and often in human terms more important) things and/or for good reason were unable to learn when the infernal machines became essential and it is now difficult to catch up. Some of us may have problems, such as arthritic fingers or other barriers to the manual dexterity to cope with difficult scrolling for instance.

Imagine, if you wi'l, having never learned to drive and finding yourself driving a car downhill with no handbook, no instructions and no knowledge of how the gears work, how to indicate and particularly how to stop the ******** thing. Nor are you very comfortable or able to see well as you did not know to adjust the seat position and mirrors, or how to adjust the windows and a/c! Unbeknown to you even if you do succeed in stopping without accident you wont be able to get out as you accidentally set the child proof locks!

Unfortunately those technologically blessed who now have control of so much of our lives and are so obsessed with their own importance showing off their skills and making money from them seem to have no consideration for the needs of their customers! People who try to tell us it is easy, and even try to help, confuse us by failing to explain the basics and their esoteric language where simple English words are used completely out of context are really confusing - thus we are faced with being told how, it is easy to change gear, without telling us where the gear stick is!.

As well as the technologically illiterate and the handicapped there are also on the forum some who are close to being uneducated and illiterate. Again it is not necessarily their fault and it does mean their posts are particularly liable to misconstruction.

There has on the whole been a fair number of faithful posters who we see again and again in this Board. However a lot seem to be no longer with us ,or not posting on the '"controversial" threads. In fact there seem to be fewer discussions generally. Maybe Admin is only interested in the income generating aspects of the board, but usually a lively discussion board attracts more people. To do this however you really do need a user friendly layout which does not leave us frustrated before we even start posting and sympathetic and above all non patronising moderation.

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Inquit wrote:
Johnny Lee wrote:I just simply asked a question on the forum Where Did It Go ? probably just best to let it go now , I am sure we all have many more important things in our lives.

Not all of us are computer literate .
And I just simply and privately and politely asked you to not ask such a question by creating a new thread in the general forum section in the future because doing so just clutters up the forum unnecessarily. Why that then led to you deciding to use that as an excuse to publicly portray moderators here as "Traffic Warden Uniforms with nothing else to do but look for our mistakes" is something only you can answer.

Indeed we do all have more important things to do , myself included.

Anyone is never to old to learn but can be to stubborn or lazy i suppose.
Inquit, are you a moderator? Really? Joined September 16 2016? Or are you Private Pike?

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The explanations given for the moving of posts are in my opinion reasonable.

I know it has been mentioned before but moderators are not on the forum 24/7. Despite what a few may think we spend most of the time approving posts from new members or moving posts to the correct category. There is a pm or email function which can be used to contact a moderator direct should you experience a problem, have a query etc. The pm function is also a good way of asking for more information or continuing a discussion in private with another member if you so wish.

Discussion on the forum is generated by the members and as long as the thread keeps within the forum rules it will be left to run. Sometimes moderators have to intervene. If this happens the topic is often removed to allow things to calm down, allow moderators to discuss off line what action should be taken, contact members who may have overstepped the mark etc. A decision is then made as to whether the topic should be permanently removed, put back up onto the main forum, editted or put back up on the forum and locked. Sometimes topics are locked because they have naturally run there course. The reasons for the moderators decision to take action are many but could be because of a member/s posting or a report submitted to the moderators by another member or possibly for good legal reason.Whilst one moderator may carry out whatever action is necessary it is nearly always the case that this action has been previously agreed by all the moderators. The forum rules do ask that members respect the decision of moderators and I always try to explain why a decision or action has been taken, however I will admit that this has often generated more discussion than the original topic! However as moderators we have to accept we cannot please everyone all the time.

This forum has been running for over 4 years and despite hackers and a few bad eggs it has not gone the way of other forums which often resulted in on line keyboard abuse directed at individuals. Some people have had to be banned, but given the number of members on the forum this is a very small number. Very occasionally following action taken; moderators have been subject to some threatening and disturbing pm's or emails. Whilst this is not pleasant it does help to stiffen the resolve knowing that the person has been removed from the forum. The forum is a safe place to post and
discuss things in a sensible manner and as moderators we want to ensure that this remains the case. If that is a result of firm but fair moderating then it can be no bad thing.

The forum is growing and evolving, it takes time and neither it nor the moderators will ever be perfect but in the main I
personally believe it is of great benefit to those living in the TRNC and those overseas who want to keep up to date with all thats happening.

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As "Posh" nearly said there are always a few bad apples in any barrel , and have to be dealt with. One assumes that moderators accept that this "goes with the territory" and devise strategies to cope.

However most of us - mods and admin included - are neither all bad nor all good but somewhere in between. I regret to say that I for one find the design of the forum not exactly ergonomic or user friendly and am not surprised that some members remain unaware of all the facilities, I have only found some of them either by time wasting trial and error or by the kindly intervention of another more informed poster!

AS I tried to indicate in the earlier post, many of the posters labour under disadvantages such as physical disabilities, lack of education either in conventional literacy or in IT, and it seems to me that quite often someone is labouring under extreme stress and/or distress and may say things they would not in normal circumstances. Responsible and caring design and moderation would take into account these factors. I am sorry (though not really surprised) to learn that the mods get unpleasant pms and emails. On the other hand I got no protection when I was apparently under attack on the Board. Perhaps it would be better if they were prepared to discuss posters problems and suggestions on the open forum then perhaps the more aggressive would feel less need to use pms etc to express their views? As it is I find the attitude of mods rather unpleasant and patronising and can understand (if not necessarily approve) Johnny's comparison with a traffic warden. Personally I am reminded of being back at school and told to write out a hundred times "I must respect the mods". As an an adult with I hope responsible views that I consider worthy of fair consideration frankly I resent this.

Someone suggested to me that I should not complain because this is free. Frankly if I knew a better hole I would go to it! Whenever I come onto the site I am faced by various requests for money: and , although I hope I am not one of the fanatical animal lovers (except my own of course!) I was very surprised and upset to see that anyone wanting to advertise widely for a missing dog had to pay to ensure that the post was not moved from the Main Board in two days before the majority of readers (who may not necessarily read the pets section) had had a chance to see it.

This thread has resulted in my surprise at receiving a number of pms, one very kind and helpful; the others less so but not intentionally very offensive. They deserve replies but it will take time, particularly since I have totally coincidentally received anunusual number of emails from the UK and friends inEurope, and I hope my "fans" ( ) will bear with me in the meantime.

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PS Johnny is not the first to ask whether any of the Moderators are in fact full time permanent residents of the TRNC ..... The silence in response has been deafening and perhaps to some of us a little suspicious! I for one do not mean to insist that a moderator should forego the right to anonymity but it would be nice to hear that the views of full time residents (who often feel to be misrepresented) are considered, and that the Moderators do not feel that they are such superior beings that they need not answer reasonable questons!

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Do you want this forum to go the way that 44 did. A lot of people, myself included were put off posting on there for fear of the bully boys having a go. You don't have to worry about that on here.

Yes in an ideal world we could do without moderators. But it's not.

As for trying to find a post , personally i simply check the active threads or the unread posts and they are all there , so what IS the problem.

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Thanks Darzee.
I cannot see what the problem is either. A moderator's job is to ensure that the forum is running properly, no attacks, no spammers, checking and approving new member posts etc.. They are not here to give info and advice, this is what the members do between themselves. The moderator's role is just to ensure the forum is running properly.

Not that it matters, but we do actually have moderators living on the island and several that are there at least 6 to 8 months a year, and another that has lived on the island for approx. 10 years and now living elsewhere in Europe. I think they are doing a grand job in helping to keep this forum running as smooth as possible, without their kind support in volunteering to help run the forum, this forum would not exist. Without moderators, as Darzee points out, the forum would soon deteriorate and eventually collapse. Is this what members would like?

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I have worked out who Quintin is, it was very simple with him having yet another dig at me and wanting the last word and also expecting everyone on the forum to be a computer Nerd. I don't think it is right at all for a member to hide behind false I.D. to be a moderator.

It is bad enough with unknown members and false I.D.s

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Surely forum members could/should exercise their right to stop using the Forum if they are unhappy with how it is run/moderated. Griping will not change the owner's view on how he wants posts moved, the Forum to run or moderators to act. Unhappy = move away!

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This forum has a standard set-up, just like any other large forum. It takes time and some effort to learn and understand the full functionality of a forum. There are quite a few links that could to be explored to understand better how this forum works. I am a self taught web developer, and had realised at a very early stage of learning not to be afraid of clicking. The more I clicked the faster I learned. There are many links on this forum and you really do not have to be IT literate to put your mouse on them and simply click.... you will find out more about the forum's functionality and better understand how best it may suit you.

False ID's are the norm when it comes to forums. You will never find a large forum where everybody knows every member, and why should they? Some members feel more secure having a false ID so that they feel free in what they want to post without "friends" having to judge them. As for moderators wanting to know all members only makes life more difficult for them and me, in that when there is an issue with a thread, it would always be past onto me to deal with as they ( known moderator ) do not want to upset their "friends".

As Tomsteel states no member is forced to use this forum. It's a bit like not being happy with the service of a restaurant...What do you do?

All we ask is that members abide by the simple rules, that's all. This way the forum has a good chance of progressing and being of good use to all it's members. Simple.

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Darzee wrote:Do you want this forum to go the way that 44 did. A lot of people, myself included were put off posting on there for fear of the bully boys having a go. You don't have to worry about that on here.

Unfortunately some of us do.

Yes in an ideal world we could do without moderators. But it's not.

Agreed but there are moderators and moderators.

As for trying to find a post , personally i simply check the active threads or the unread posts and they are all there , so what IS the problem.
I was talking about trying to find an old post, not a new one that is still currently on the Board.

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Soner wrote:T There are many links on this forum and you really do not have to be IT literate to put your mouse on them and simply click.... you will find out more about the forum's functionality and better understand how best it may suit you.

Whether you need to be IT literate is a matter of where you stand. But what you do need is good hand eye coordination and quite a lot of people dont have that.. What happenened to equal opportunies - and dont say "this is Cyprus"!

False ID's are the norm when it comes to forums. You will never find a large forum where everybody knows every member, and why should they? Some members feel more secure having a false ID so that they feel free in what they want to post without "friends" having to judge them. As for moderators wanting to know all members only makes life more difficult for them and me, in that when there is an issue with a thread, it would always be past onto me to deal with as they ( known moderator ) do not want to upset their "friends".

Of course members should be entitle to anonymity, some may be very vulnerable. Mods may feel the need not to be identified as an individual but if they claim to be qualified to "judge" is it only fair to tell those who they consider beneath them should explain why they feel qualified and why they want to do a job they obviously feel too demanding in the first place!

As Tomsteel states no member is forced to use this forum. It's a bit like not being happy with the service of a restaurant...What do you do?

Unless there are other restaurants in the vicinity starve presumably! Unfortunately for the housebound who are the ones who really need the facility of contacting othes by IT there are few alternatives in northern Cyprus, I already said I if I knew of a better hold I would go to it. Actually I do know of a better hole but it is a specialist site and does not keep me up to date on local issues. To be fair it is smaller, the members are from all over the world but they get to know each other even if they disagree and it does not rely on advertising. It is much easier to use, not least because of the use ofcolours and size of type where the eye is drawn to the important aspects and they are not hidden in black small pring. However I have just run out of time and wont by posting on this thread any more, if at all.

All we ask is that members abide by the simple rules, that's all. This way the forum has a good chance of progressing and being of good use to all it's members. Simple.
Unfortunately the way it is going it is of good use to the comparatively young and active and healthy and preferably reasonable well off. To be fair to Soner and the mods it does reflect the attitudes of the majority of expats "Im alright Jack"

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Sorry Ragged Robin,
I am not sure of what you are trying to say.

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If you contributed to the thread in any way, then click on 'view my posts' - you can then further refine your search by using the search box marked 'search these results' which appears just above the list of your posts. This is not the normal search box at the top of the page, although you can use the two search facilities consecutively in a similar fashion

The use of the individual 'subjects' also enables the additional search facility, so with a little thought and judicious choice of a search word (or two) it shouldn't really take more than a few seconds to find any post.

Practice makes perfect

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I'm 72 and I used the search box (successfully) last night......

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Good stuff jofra.

As Soner has said, click away.

I am not a computer geek and all I know, like many people is self taught. I am using a tablet as opposed to a PC and keyboard/mouse which does at times make things trickier, but by spending a little time I do eventually figure things out! Sometimes have trouble the next day remembering what or how I did it tho!!
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I just offered someone the following explanation, and was so pleased with it that I thought that I'd put it on here...

Re. 'moving subjects', I think it's a fairly random process (although it might not seem so when they pick on your post!) However as long as everyone complains equally, you can be fairly sure that there's no discrimination!

I don't think that there's any agenda or sub-plot, I think that it's just one of those tasks like shovelling manure in a stable, you're not too bothered which particular bit your shovel happens to make contact with, or what order you shift it, just so long as you get it all shifted eventually

No doubt that little pearl of wisdom will be shoveled off in due course!

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KC, I suspect it will be a "Sticky" at the top of the page in perpetuity! BTW, it worked, not perfect, but better than it was!!

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Interesting analogy Keith


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Has anyone noticed the new layout of the links to different subjects yet?

I think that placing them in Alphabetical order makes it much easier to see if there's a link to the subject that you're interested in.

A good job Soner!

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