Cat needs neutering

[Royalcorpsoftranspor]

A cat has suddenly adopted us, a lovely tabby. Can any one please inform me how to go about the above & an mot for the poor thing, do KAR do any thing like this.

[Marions]

If you can afford it, go to the local vet. Well, where are you./ Pertev in town and Ferdes in Ozankoy Bellapais road are the best.

hope you don't get caught out as I did. a very small cat adopted us, and when we took it for the op, it was discovered she had already had one. Never figured out how that happened, but the poor thing was put through another op to find out she had already had one! She must have been a runt of a litter or some such. But still with us and happy 5 years later.

[Royalcorpsoftranspor]

so dosn't kar do it any more

[metin]

They used to help with the cost, but don't know if they still do.

They certainly won't do it for free. The average cost is 200tl at the vets.

[Lor51]

I pay 90TL for a boy and 200TL for a girl, this is at the vets by pitstop Catalkoy. He has done approx 10 cats for me, so I can recommend him highly. I believe that Kar will help out with costs they have a day once a month or so I believe when they carry out the ops.

[Lor51]

Also if you get the cat done, ask the vet to cut the top of his ear off, this will let others know that he has been done

[Royalcorpsoftranspor]

I pay 90TL for a boy and 200TL for a girl, this is at the vets by pitstop Catalkoy. He has done approx 10 cats for me, so I can recommend him highly. I believe that Kar will help out with costs they have a day once a month or so I believe when they carry out the ops.

Tl 200 my god i think it can unadopt me Lol

[MoBry]

We had our mother cat and two kittens spayed at Garfields and he charged TL160. Mother and cats fine, although slightly miffed at being stuffed into the cat cage and ending up at the vet's.

[Rambling Rose]

I sympathise Royal, you would think there would be more support for people prepared to take animals off the streets, but thats the way things are here! Ive already had a bit of a rant on another thread about the cost of adopting animals!

I recently had a bitch "done" by Pertev. 200 TL (cats might be cheaper) but I must say he did a very neat job. Tiny incision which healed in days with no problems, and she was running about quite happily as soon as the aneasthetic wore off. Quite change from thelast one (which admittedly was a few years ago) where the poor thing was ill for weeks and needed a lot of nursing.

[BLUE BUTTERFLY]

Hi Royal

Yes KAR do help.

We were also 'adopted' by a female cat a couple of months ago, shortly after, she came into season.

I enquired on KIBCOM and was helped by a lady member, Sophie, who, I think, works for KAR.

My husband went to the KAR office, near the passport restaurant and gave a donation of 70tl, they gave him a voucher to take to ALL PETS and directions on how to get there. You ring for an appointment, and take the cat and the voucher.

Take the cat in the morning and pick her up after 2pm.

Boo Boo, the cat, was given a full hysterectomy, she had a small wound on her tummy, just 2 stitches which dissolved after a month.

The lady vet is lovely and very caring, obviously not in it just for the money and I wouldn't hesitate in going there again should the need arise.

Just a word of warning, when the cat came home she was in quite a deep sleep and had her head down, this prevented her from breathing, luckily we noticed, best to keep her in the 'recovery position' and check at regular intervals, she will also possibly be sick.

We provided a litter tray for 24 hours and kept her in the house.

She is fully recovered now and fat as butter.

[Rambling Rose]

One of the things I really ought to know, but dont.! What is the recovery position for animals (dogs in my case) please?

Again I must say that Pertev insisted on keeping the dog until he was sure it had no ill effects from the anaesthetic - she was on her feet and capable of walking when I picked her up, a bit slower than usual, but not for long.

[cyprusishome]

For what you get in return from being adopted the small cost at the vet is worth it. KAR is a charity that always struggles for cash so please, please, pay the bill yourself, I am sure it is not going to make too large a hole in the pocket.

[Royalcorpsoftranspor]

For what you get in return from being adopted the small cost at the vet is worth it. KAR is a charity that always struggles for cash so please, please, pay the bill yourself, I am sure it is not going to make too large a hole in the pocket.

I dont want it for a pet , it will be allowed in the garden for food but that is all.
I dont want kittens all over the place & i am not going to pay TL 200 either.
So it is either kar or a ride in the car sorry but that is how it is.

[cyprusishome]

Simple solution.
Do not feed it and it will move on to someone who will do the necessary. Cats are not bothered about relationships with humans they just use us.

[BLUE BUTTERFLY]

Always the same, typical brit reaction,' it is only a cat.' Yet someone reports a missing, stray or dead dog, the messages of sympathy, or 'oh, poor thing, I pray to God every day that you find him/her' come pouring in.

Any helpless hungry creature is deserving of our help.

It is common sense, KAR would not provide the information re the neutering or recommend this vet on their website if they were not making some money towards the services they provide.

I should have said in my previous post, 70tl is the MINIMUM donation expected, I am only presuming. possibly wrongly, that KAR get all or a large proportion of the donation, whereas, if you go to a 'private' vet they get the whole fee and KAR receive none of it.

Some of us are on a very low income but still like to help these poor creatures, a case of the 'widows mite'

I am not an expert on animals, but, again presume, that the recovery position is the same as for humans, on the side, one arm behind and head up to ensure that the 'patient' does not lie face down and that the nose and mouth are unobstructed.

[sophie]

Yes KAR will help, and yes a donation would be asked for, (surely that's not asking too much is it?) This isn't the UK and KAR isn't the RSPCA - contrary to many peoples perception. You go to the office, pay your donation and are given a Voucher to take to FUNDA the Vet, NOT Firdex or Pertev, they don't neuter or spay KAR Voucher cats. The rest of your bill is picked up by KAR.. You would be surprised at the number of people who are amazed to find that KAR doesn't pick up all of the bill for people who could well afford to pay for it themselves. By dumping the cat out means that that she could give birth to as many as 6 kittens (sometimes twice a year) for the rest of her pathetic life. is that fair on the cat or the human population? I think not.

[sophie]

Recovery position. There is masses of information on the web, but basically for a cat or dog, lay the animal on on its side, pulling the hind legs gently downwards so there is a clear passage way for any discharge, then make sure the head is in a position slightly higher than the rest of the body so that the throat isn't constricted and any dischage can be emitted and the air way completely free. Some animals don't want food or water after an Op but if it hasn't had water after, say 8 or 10 hours, its best to let the animal lay on its side and dribble water in through the side of the mouth. It doesn't matter about food really, the animal will eat as and when its' ready!!

[Rambling Rose]

I dont know the original poster or what his situation, financial or otherwise is and I expect he is capable to defending himself.

\But I have to say that I find the attitudes on this thread very upsetting and at the risk of making myself very unpopular (and in my own defence I would point out I knowhat I am talking about because I am caring for three dogs who were rescued by others, not KAR, and for whom I have always paid vets and other expenses out of my pocket at considerable sacrifice) I just cannot keep quiet on the subject ..

Firstly there are some very lucky people here. I know people to whom 200TL represents more than a week's housekeeping, and it is a very big portion of mine, and a lot less than I spend weekly on eating out etc. The months I have big vet bills I seriously have had to tighten my own belt. It is not "a small sum" to be thought of lightly as a hole in ones pocket.

Secondly why on earth should someone who happens to have a stray animal wander into their garden (particularly if they are not particularly animals lovers, but are just acting out of pity and kindness) be under an obligation to spend money they may not be able to afford on it? Admittedly I think when criticising the Cypriots, the expt population should realise that the extent of the stray population is largely the fault of the British , past and present, but one individual should not be expected to understake a heavy burden for others misdeeds.

In this case someone is willing to home and feed an animal and take it for neutering and veterinary care, which already takes some burden of time and money off any caring animal charity. I assume he realises that he will also have an ongoing task, if only for his own sake if it frequents his premises, of vaccinations and parasite treatment, which is also expensive. What seems like moral blackmail or bullying by some supporters of KAR leaves a very nasty taste in my mouth.

I have no confidence in an animal charity which collects public money for the avowed purpose of neutering strays and then, when a member of the public is prepared to help them to the extent of his/her abilty (which in many cases may be curtailed by the cost of strays they are already supporting) , says "oh no, we dont do that, you are expected to pay again for the neutering". And wont even explain the guidelines which decides why they help in some cases, but refuse others. Just expecting anyone who finds a stray or sick animal to pay Vets bills is counter productive and will only result in many people having no option but to walk away from the problem.

[Rambling Rose]

I know KAR are not RSPCA and dont have either the funds and Government support. They also look after far fewer animals and do not have the responsibilityand calls on their resources of coping with investigating and prosecuting cruelty , for instance dog fights . Nor , unlike the RSPCA and other UK animal, charities do they have a policy of monitoring and supporting people who are prepared to give an animal a home, which is far better for the animal and in the long run more cost effective for the Charity, than kennels.

[cyprusishome]

I do not support KAR, their whole ethos is wrong IMO. Nor would I expect them to pay for all the dogs and cats in TRNC to be neutered just because someone feels sorry for them.

We had a mother and three minute kittens adopt us nearly 5 years ago, we had tried to catch the mother previously but even by putting down sedatives we could not catch her. Being suckers we fed them and after much blood shed, on my part, they all got a trip to the vet. Since then they have not been back to vet cos we cannot catch them. But they are healthy and well fed, coming THREE times a day knocking on the door and they have their own beds in the porch. We do have a "pet" cat who does have all his injections etc up to date and who gets on well with those outside, except he thinks he is different cos he comes inside.

Also took on board a cat when we first came cos the owner could not look after her, she did cost us a lot in her last days being quite old but our choice. Then another cat we had been given to care for after owners returned to England got stung by something nasty and after a week of fighting, many trips to the vet she died in my arms late at night.

Other cats have tried to muscle in on the food but they get a rock for their troubles and do not come back, we have reached an acceptable level for us.

So before taking action people should look deep into their own hearts and perhaps do not criticise others because they do not APPEAR to tow the party line.

[Royalcorpsoftranspor]

I do not support KAR, their whole ethos is wrong IMO. Nor would I expect them to pay for all the dogs and cats in TRNC to be neutered just because someone feels sorry for them.

We had a mother and three minute kittens adopt us nearly 5 years ago, we had tried to catch the mother previously but even by putting down sedatives we could not catch her. Being suckers we fed them and after much blood shed, on my part, they all got a trip to the vet. Since then they have not been back to vet cos we cannot catch them. But they are healthy and well fed, coming THREE times a day knocking on the door and they have their own beds in the porch. We do have a "pet" cat who does have all his injections etc up to date and who gets on well with those outside, except he thinks he is different cos he comes inside.

Also took on board a cat when we first came cos the owner could not look after her, she did cost us a lot in her last days being quite old but our choice. Then another cat we had been given to care for after owners returned to England got stung by something nasty and after a week of fighting, many trips to the vet she died in my arms late at night.

Other cats have tried to muscle in on the food but they get a rock for their troubles and do not come back, we have reached an acceptable level for us.

So before taking action people should look deep into their own hearts and perhaps do not criticise others because they do not APPEAR to tow the party line.

Wow that was deep but thank you for that i can see you went very deep in your heart for that

[Rambling Rose]

In my first (rented) house here a cute little cat used to visit the garden and queue up behind my dog (less species prejudiced than my current canine crew) for beakfast. Because I was told I should encourage cats but not feed them very much so that they would continue to hunt and reduce the rodent and snake population of the garden, I gave it titbits. and because I am soft and it was small boned and not perhaps fully grown, I also gave it a light supper of milk ,Yoghurt or cheese. I got quite attached to it, but when I moved decided it was unlikely to settle in a new location and said a fond farewell. At a coffee morning, I described it and asked some neighbours to keep an eye out for it, and let me know if it seemed to be starving or fretting. THAT was when I discovered three other people were, unknown to me or each other, regularly feeding the cheeeky little thing and it was doing quite nicely thank you!


I was waiting at the time for money to arrive from England and feeding myself and the (rescued) dog on a pittance, despite which I contributed what I could to KAR because I then believed their claims to be solving the stray problem by neutering. I would have been shocked if anyone had suggested I should be responsible for having the cat neutered.

Dogs are a different matter. If a canine adopts you, you enter into a contract between the two of you , irrespective of what anyone else does or says, that you will repay its loyalty and affection by caring for its every need! You are also, imho , responsible for ensuring to the best of your abiltiy that it does not roam and get into trouble. Also , for the benefit of other domestic and agricultural animals, dogs should always be well fed to discourage their hunting instincts.

Nonetheless I believe that a truly caring animal welfare organisation should concentrate their resources, alongside a neutering programme, on housing stray animals, and supporting those prepared to give considerable time, money and energy on caring for them