Poison alert Lapta

[Keithcaley]

Near olive oil factory

Please be careful...

[aerhere]

Is that by the olive oil factory in Karsiyska or is there another one in Lapta please Keith? Thanks for posting a warning.

[Keithcaley]

Sorry, just got clarification - Karsiyaka

[frontalman]

Any more details, Keith?

[Keithcaley]

No information regarding the source, method of distribution or person responsible as yet.

At least one pet animal has died, and at least two are receiving veterinary treatment - prognosis hopeful but uncertain, that's all that I know at the moment.

[frontalman]

Thanks for that.

[sophie]

Sadly its thousands to one against finding out who is responsible.

[Johnny Lee]

Sorry to have to inform you . But I beleive it is now 5 cats belonging to one lady all poisoned. I think the dog is recovering.

[kayc]

time to install some surveilence cameras and discover who is doing this.

[Cally]

That is absolutely horrendous, that poor lady must be heart broken............

Such evil people that walk this earth

[frontalman]

Has anyone been able to find out which poison was used? I remember years ago that the owner of the olive groves used to be very unhappy about dogs and cats messing amongst the olive trees and he threatened to do something about it if it didn't stop. I'm not saying it was him as I'm going back 4 years or more. Was this a targeted attack on one person, or was the poison more widespread?

[tomsteel]

FM, surely if the olive grove owner was that perturbed about animals near his trees, he could have fenced them off? I agree he may not be the poisoner, but surely, even to a local or immigrant, poisoning is just an abhorrent solution?

[frontalman]

I agree with you. We started a campaign in Karsiyaka to stop the poisoning some years back, which has been quite successful as it has been relatively poison-free, compared to the mass poisonings of the past. I just hope it's not rearing its ugly head again. As much as I abhor poisoning, you have to get a perspective. Stray dogs and foxes have always been a danger to livestock, especially after the hunting season when hunting dogs are abandoned to their own devices at the same time as baby goats and sheep are being born. Poison has always been a cheap and easily available way to indiscriminately cull perceived predators, horrific and barbaric as it is. Dogs kill goats and sheep for fun, if they are in a pack (dogs), which is barbaric too.

Don't get me wrong, I'm a dog lover and have always had dogs but I feel we all have a responsibility in the environment we share. I'm not commenting on any incident in particular, just making a general point. I have confronted shepherds here over poisoning many times, probably the wrong ones. One of our dogs was poisoned five times and we have spent a fortune at the vets over the years, apart from the emotional turmoil. I've seen dogs die from poisoning and I've seen my own dogs attack goats. I'm just saying that we have to do our part as well as condemning the poisoners.

[Johnny Lee]

Yes the lady is adamant attack was targeted at her next door neighbours dog. She is devastated. They have a suspect in mind I beleive.

[RAZR63]

I agree with you. We started a campaign in Karsiyaka to stop the poisoning some years back, which has been quite successful as it has been relatively poison-free, compared to the mass poisonings of the past. I just hope it's not rearing its ugly head again. As much as I abhor poisoning, you have to get a perspective. Stray dogs and foxes have always been a danger to livestock, especially after the hunting season when hunting dogs are abandoned to their own devices at the same time as baby goats and sheep are being born. Poison has always been a cheap and easily available way to indiscriminately cull perceived predators, horrific and barbaric as it is. Dogs kill goats and sheep for fun, if they are in a pack (dogs), which is barbaric too.

Don't get me wrong, I'm a dog lover and have always had dogs but I feel we all have a responsibility in the environment we share. I'm not commenting on any incident in particular, just making a general point. I have confronted shepherds here over poisoning many times, probably the wrong ones. One of our dogs was poisoned five times and we have spent a fortune at the vets over the years, apart from the emotional turmoil. I've seen dogs die from poisoning and I've seen my own dogs attack goats. I'm just saying that we have to do our part as well as condemning the poisoners.

Yes I agree, but there are also several cats that have been poisoned. Sadly it is difficult to control where cats go (and this has been debated on here recently). Mine keep the fruit rats at bay in the garden but where they go at night I couldn't tell you.

Maybe they should target the Hunters and lay down Linda McCartney sausages to eat......

[Ragged Robin]

When I was a child my new puppy got loose in the country and started chasing sheep - just for fun he was too young to domuch damage, just a new game to him. I was shocked when my normally kind and gentle father, whipped the dog with his own lead. He explained to me that the sheep were the farmer's livelihood and also that it was for the dog's own good as farmers were legally entitled to shoot dogs caught worrying sheept. I believe that this is still the case in the UK. Every since my dogs have always been called to heel and put on the lead when there are sheep around, very pointedl if the shepherd is there! The shepherds here appreciate it, and always wave whether or not I have dogs with me.

Admittedly shooting is pehaps somewhat less barbaric than poison, but the principle is there.

\In rural areas (I think there is a different issue at stake in built up places) it is not only dog and cats - there are other predators, foxes, rats, reptiles etc. which damage livestock and crops. I think the agricultural authorites and the large chemical industries share the blame as they make money out of poisons rather than finding a more civilised and cheaper way of dealing with predators without risking domestic animals.

Of course fencing an area will not keep out cats, let alone rats etc. It is also expensive to install and maintain and I understand the farmers and shepherds here are already suffering financially.