Extension until 10 th of april re lockdown

[Reyntj]

https://www.kibrishaberci.com/son-dakik ... ar-uzatti/

Just saw this on facebook. No surprise but i think it says all the lockdown is extended until 10 th of april.

Im hoping that you dan go for a walk as thats what id like to be able to do . Where i live you can easily walk and keep social distancing . No doubt there will be an english version at some point

[Reyntj]

The duration of the measures taken by the Council of Ministers against the coronavirus outbreak has been extended. The closing date of private sector enterprises, which was first announced by the Council of Ministers on March 27 and transferred to April 6 with the curfew, was extended until April 10. The new decisions taken by the Council of Ministers are as follows:

DECISIONS OF THE BOARD OF MINISTERS 29 MARCH 2020

NUMBER OF DECISIONS E T (K-1) MEASURE DECISIONS ON 515-2020 CORONA VIRUS (COVID-19) VIII

(GD) Council of Ministers, ET (KI) 438-2020 number and 12.3.2020, ET (KI) 440-2020 number and 13.3.2020, ET (KI) received for precautionary measures related to Corona Virus (COVID-19). As a result of the finalization of the periods specified in the 443-2020 number and 14.3.2020 decision, the following decisions were taken:

1- All schools, kindergartens, classrooms and study centers, including the 10th of April 2020, to stop education,

2- Suspension of all sports, social and cultural activities in schools until April 10, 2020,

3- Cancellation of all mass meetings such as cinema, theater, concert, festival and rally until April 10, 2020,

4- Postponing all sports events until April 10, 2020, and schedule them to continue after this date,

5- The process of obtaining new work preview of all foreigners is stopped until 30 April 2020,

[Reyntj]

6- Kamuda görevli polis, itfaiye, sağlık, sivil havacılık maliye ve benzeri hizmetler haricinde görev yapan kamu görevlilerinin 10 Nisan 2020 tarihine kadar idari izinli sayılması,

7- Özel sektörde, eczane, benzin istasyonu, fırın ve market gibi temel ihtiyaçların karşılanması çerçevesinde hizmet üreten işletmeler haricinde tüm dükkân, işletme, casino, gece kulübü, bet ofisi, eğlence merkezi vb. yerlerin 10 Nisan 2020 tarihine kadar kapalı olması

8- Eczanelerin çalışma saatlerinin 10 Nisan 2020 tarihine kadar sabah 08:00 – öğlen 13:30 olması, Nöbetçi Eczanelerin gece yarısından sonra 01:30’a kadar açık olması ve her ilçede, ilave bir nöbetçi eczane olması ile hastaların eczane içerisinde kalabalık bir ortam oluşturulmalarını önlemek için eczane içerisine müşterilerin 3’er 3’er veya sınırlı sayıda alınması,

9- Tüm kara, deniz ve hava giriş kapılarının KKTC vatandaşları ve KKTC vatandaşlarının vatandaş olmasa da eş ve çocukları hariç tüm diğer ülke vatandaşlarının girişine 1 Nisan 2020 tarihine kadar kapatılmasına ilişkin Bakanlar Kurulu’nun almış olduğu E.T(K-I)453-2020 sayı ve 19.3.2020 tarihli kararın tadil edilerek belirtilen sürenin 11 Nisan 2020 tarihine kadar uzatılması.

[Groucho]

6- The public officials working outside the police, fire brigade, health, civil aviation finance and similar services are considered as administrative leave until 10 April 2020,

7- In the private sector, all shops, businesses, casinos, night clubs, bet offices, entertainment centers, etc., except for businesses that produce services within the framework of meeting basic needs such as pharmacy, gas station, bakery and market. the locations are closed until April 10, 2020

8- The working hours of the pharmacies are between 08:00 and 13:30 in the morning until April 10, 2020, the pharmacies on duty are open until 01:30 after midnight and there is an additional on-duty pharmacy in each district, and a crowded environment in the pharmacy 3 in 3 or limited number of customers inside the pharmacy to prevent their creation,

9- The ET (KI) 453-2020 number and 19.3 received by the Council of Ministers regarding the closure of all land, sea and air entry gates to the entrance of all citizens of the country except TRNC citizens and TRNC citizens, even if not citizens, their spouses and children. Extension of the specified period by amending the decision dated 2020 until April 11, 2020.

[waddo]

"all citizens of the country except TRNC citizens and TRNC citizens, even if not citizens, their spouses and children". Now that is clear is it not?

So, all citizens of the country (TRNC) EXCEPT TRNC citizens, even if they are not citizens, their spouses and children can not come in unless they can or not, maybe!

Plain as day.

[Reyntj]

This was googke translate so you need to apply that as a factor

[erol]

7- In the private sector, all shops, businesses, casinos, night clubs, bet offices, entertainment centers, etc., except for businesses that produce services within the framework of meeting basic needs such as pharmacy, gas station, bakery and market. the locations are closed until April 10, 2020

So ignoring apparent discrepancies to the above list 'on the ground' in some areas and in relation to some private businesses and shops because we know where any such attempt to talk about those here will lead

I am left wondering should diy / hardware stores, at least to some degree, not be on the list of essential private sector shops that are within the framework of 'meeting basic needs' ?

I am thinking here where for want of a simple part from a hardware shop someones mains water has to be turned off entirely and things like that. Seems like potentially a pretty fundamental basic need to me ?

[Soner]

That's TRNC citizens, and TRNC citizens's spouses, children "that do not have citizenship", excluding all other country citizens.....

[waddo]

Being ex military I apply simple logic to a vast number of things, it goes like this: Two weeks ago I was told by my Boss - You are not allowed to eat chips and you must not shoot yourself in the foot! Today my Boss told me I could now eat chips but no bread!

Applying simple logic, this does not mean I can now carry on and shoot myself in the foot.

As far as I can tell from today’s news the original instructions of “Stay in, stay safe” remain the same but extended to 10th April?
However, if you read it a different way, then load your gun and take aim, it’s your foot after all.

Take care out there people!

Thanks Soner, my understanding of that part took a definite dive - lol.

[Groucho]

7- In the private sector, all shops, businesses, casinos, night clubs, bet offices, entertainment centers, etc., except for businesses that produce services within the framework of meeting basic needs such as pharmacy, gas station, bakery and market. the locations are closed until April 10, 2020

So ignoring apparent discrepancies to the above list 'on the ground' in some areas and in relation to some private businesses and shops because we know where any such attempt to talk about those here will lead

I am left wondering should diy / hardware stores, at least to some degree, not be on the list of essential private sector shops that are within the framework of 'meeting basic needs' ?

I am thinking here where for want of a simple part from a hardware shop someones mains water has to be turned off entirely and things like that. Seems like potentially a pretty fundamental basic need to me ?

DIY stores are definitely essential.

[erol]

DIY stores are definitely essential.

That is how it seemed to me. Does anyone know of any that have been / will be open 'down on the ground' so to speak ?

[13roman58]

DIY stores are definitely essential.
[/quote] for my sanity I need supplies to occupy the time that I have to finish all the DIY jobs I left over time and want to do now.

[EnjoyingTheSun]

It is pretty obvious that worldwide the lockdowns and extensions will be a moveable feast so to speak.
I guess when they have no fresh infections for a period of time then the lockdown will cease or at least be scaled back.
I can see this going on for weeks and weeks and then it will be interesting to see at what stage they will open up the borders.

They will be lucky to save much if anything from this years tourism.
Even if say the infections stopped and borders opened in May how many tourists will be confident travelling abroad?
Also how many will be able to afford to?
If most have lost say 10% of their years income then that is the amount that is usually the fat of their budget used for holidays and upgrading the car etc

[erol]

I think you are right re tourism. Not sure it will ever be quite the same as 'before' for years if not decades. However if it leads to places like here (and Turkey) in the medium and long run having to decrease it dependence on tourism, that has always been a fickle and unreliable source of income imo, would that not be a possible long term 'silver lining' to the massive cloud of 'short term' pain ?

[EnjoyingTheSun]

However if it leads to places like here (and Turkey) in the medium and long run having to decrease it dependence on tourism, that has always been a fickle and unreliable source of income imo, would that not be a possible long term 'silver lining' to the massive cloud of 'short term' pain ?

Turkey could change but I can’t see many realistic alternatives for TRNC tbh.
For it to export it would need its status to be sorted out and the investment needed to go into manufacturing or suchlike is unfeasible imo.

Tourism is fickle but to a point as my old gran used to say you can only poo with the arse you’ve got.

[erol]

fair point , well made.

[Hilltop]

What about the YAR plus attached to Erulku. Part of the main food shop?

[erol]

What about the YAR plus attached to Erulku. Part of the main food shop?

Sorry bit confused. Are you saying that Erulku has DIY section and you know it is open ? If so thanks for info though if anyone knows of one closer to Lapta that would still be welcome

[alphamike]

I read somewhere that DIY section in Erulku was cordoned off, but I cannot remember where I read it, and haven't been since we've been stuck at home to confirm one way or the other.

[Reyntj]

If there is no tourism there is no tax revenue . The state will need a bailout . They wont have money to pay its debt pensions salaries exoenses etc. there will be a lot of debt defaults as business and individuals simply wont have money. Other countries have thrown the proverbial kitchen sink at the virus in comparison trnc has only a sink plug on offer. Its unlikely to be enough....

[Brinsley]

Attempting to sleep at midnight last night/this morning (clocks adjusted) I heard a barrage of screaming, shouting etc etc from men and women berating each other from numerous different adjacent apartment blocks. Maybe DIY shops should be open for supplies to occupy bored 'banged-up' partners to do something positive around their property using their time objectively before beating the "ooops" out of each other!
Ended up sleeping peacefully on the sofa away from the cries of 'divorce proceedings', adjacent to a car free road!!

[thornaby]

Corona virus, this will be the longest thing made in China has lasted!

[frontalman]

Erulku DIY section is closed, otherwise it would be unfair competition. I am quite OK with this extension except for the inability to take the dogs out. They are driving us mad, Dogs need to go out, it is not just an aspiration. We are at the back edge of Karsiyaka with miles of open space behind us with mountains and forest. We never see a soul when we walk the dogs in normal times so unlikely to now. However we are sticking to the dictat so as not to set a bad example, and to comply with the law. I even opened the gate for our two year old streetwise dog to go for a run himself this morning in the hope that he would find his way home but he is a good dog and refused to run off, so I chained him up under the olive tree opposite our house on a piece of astroturf. If anyone has any ideas I'd be grateful.

[alphamike]

215 have been charged for breaking partial curfew rules in the last 7 days. http://www.yeniduzen.com/7-gunde-215-ki ... 25520h.htm

[PoshinDevon]

The 3 week initial lockdown here in the U.K. will be extended for sure. Predictions of the virus figures reaching a peak in 2-3 weeks will ensure that happens. My guess it will be a stricter lockdown for a further 3 weeks minimum simply because there are still people out there that are flouting the guidelines. Hopefully the lockdown will go well into mid/end May, as it seems the only way to contain the virus. Depending on the figures at that time there may be a possible easing of restrictions early June but if the virus figures start to grow again a further lockdown will be enforced.

It will be 6 months (Sept/Oct) before there is some sort of return to normality. However; there will be restrictions on travel and also advice on countries that should not be visited. This will greatly influence where and when people will travel and whether they can enter countries, cross borders etc. It will be a year before things are back to anywhere like what they were.

It is no use thinking that in a few weeks this will be over, it’s going to be a very long haul.

[EnjoyingTheSun]

If there is no tourism there is no tax revenue . The state will need a bailout . They wont have money to pay its debt pensions salaries exoenses etc. there will be a lot of debt defaults as business and individuals simply wont have money. Other countries have thrown the proverbial kitchen sink at the virus in comparison trnc has only a sink plug on offer. Its unlikely to be enough....

That about covers it. Problem is the only place it get can get a bailout from is Turkey which will have its own problems. This is going to get extremely grim worldwide hence my comments that we could be using chemotherapy to cure a cold. 32,000 dead in 65 days sounds enormous until you consider that 150,000 people die a day worldwide.

[Walesforever]

Medical officer for England says it will probably be another 6 months of lockdown with ongoing updates every 3 weeks.

I think the World has changed and it will be a very different place to the world we knew pre virus.

Most Countries won’t have a pot to pee in and various airlines/hotels/restaurants/businesses won’t be around this time next year.
For time being stay safe and stay strong this will be around for a long time yet.

[erol]

If there is no tourism there is no tax revenue . The state will need a bailout . They wont have money to pay its debt pensions salaries exoenses etc. there will be a lot of debt defaults as business and individuals simply wont have money. Other countries have thrown the proverbial kitchen sink at the virus in comparison trnc has only a sink plug on offer. Its unlikely to be enough....

The TC community have been here (and worse) before. Post 74 there was nothing, no tourism and no economy. I think it is worth remembering that when projections forward today look so bleak. Hard and difficult times but we did survive and go on in time to thrive in relative terms.

[Chriswright03]

Medical officer for England says it will probably be another 6 months of lockdown with ongoing updates every 3 weeks.

I think the World has changed and it will be a very different place to the world we knew pre virus.

Most Countries won’t have a pot to pee in and various airlines/hotels/restaurants/businesses won’t be around this time next year.
For time being stay safe and stay strong this will be around for a long time yet.

This has been falsely reported in the press as that is not what she said. What she actually said was that it may take 6 months to get back to normal.

https://www.aol.co.uk/news/2020/03/29/c ... ays-gover/

[Reyntj]

I agree with you erol. Just things will be bad for a while for how long and how bad nobody knows. The situation will be overcome .i see some saying things will not be the same again regarding tourism but i oersonally doubt that .once the virus has gone there will be no reason not to travel here . Maybe cruise ships will be effected long term .

[jofra]

Once the virus has cleared, tourism is certain to recover, over time - for example, consider these attractive destinations, while other companies offer Syria...

[kibsolar1999]

.... 32,000 dead in 65 days sounds enormous until you consider that 150,000 people die a day worldwide.
why always this 57, 60 or 65 days.... this is rubbish.

18 of march we had 500, 12 day later we count 34.000.

sorry, corrected to approx 5000 on 18th.

[erol]

Not a fan of 'anecdotal' evidence in things like this but this story on BBC seems to suggest that not all dying who are also covid19 positive were on the verge of death anyway

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-52089768

[EnjoyingTheSun]

18 of march we had 500, 12 day later we count 34.000.

11,000 of which are from Italy which again begs the question from coronavirus or with coronavirus. Italy has an average of 200 deaths a day from flu but that's an average not a linear 200 a day. Obviously any flu season has spikes as the UK did in 2015

[Hippocampus]

Everyone is concerned about their dogs getting exercised, but what about us? We are supposed to take minimum 150 mins of aerobic exercise, something which I do achieve by walking every day normally. I think it is inhumane and counter-productive to disallow exercise. I suppose that people here, given an inch, would take a mile.

[Geoff1131]

Quite a few people think that when the curfew ends then things will get back to normal. I think they are being very optimistic. As soon as the TRNC Government are satisfied that there have been no new cases reported for a period of at least 10 days, but more likely to be around the 20 day mark. Then i believe the lock down period will come to an end and everyone here will be able to get back to some sort of ' normal ' living. Workers will be back at work the bars and restaurants will reopen but i feel with some restrictions on the number allowed in at first. I think we are looking at a further period of watching before the Government even think about letting anyone back into the country. Maybe the people holding TRNC residency will be the first ones allowed back under the condition that they self isolate for a period to ensure their health? Later others will be allowed back but only from countries that are considered safe. As someone said earlier, it could be a long time before things get back to normal.

[RayMar]

Police permit to go out. Filled out the form online. Sent it and a code came straight back.
Has anyone had a problem putting in the code which is sent to mobile phone. When we try we get message parameter count mismatch. Any help would be appreciated as we have tried about 10 times. Going to give up and just go shopping anyway.

[snd1966]

Police permit to go out. Filled out the form online. Sent it and a code came straight back.
Has anyone had a problem putting in the code which is sent to mobile phone. When we try we get message parameter count mismatch. Any help would be appreciated as we have tried about 10 times. Going to give up and just go shopping anyway.

yesterday I did but it could of been either me using my beyaz kimlik number or lack of reason, when I elaborated on reason and changed to my passport it came back ok.
Today I have sent off again as I need to get to a municipality office on the day they have advised me they will be open and the times I requested were changed to the actual office hours she told me she was there.

[snd1966]

Everyone is concerned about their dogs getting exercised, but what about us? We are supposed to take minimum 150 mins of aerobic exercise, something which I do achieve by walking every day normally. I think it is inhumane and counter-productive to disallow exercise. I suppose that people here, given an inch, would take a mile.

Try looking at Utube!! I have still maintained my 8000 work out steps by marching on the spot, lunges, stepping on and off the patio, side steps, pretending to climb a ladder. It is not as enjoyable as working though where I seem to pass the 8000 mark very quickly but it makes the morning pass and hubby saying make the tea with the comment more steps, see I am helping

[Chriswright03]

Police permit to go out. Filled out the form online. Sent it and a code came straight back.
Has anyone had a problem putting in the code which is sent to mobile phone. When we try we get message parameter count mismatch. Any help would be appreciated as we have tried about 10 times. Going to give up and just go shopping anyway.

Why do you need a permit to go shopping? We are allowed to go to the supermarket, chemists, bank and fuel station.

[kibsolar1999]

we count 34.000....

3 hrs later john hopkins says 35.100.

[sophie]

Chriswright03 I think that you need permit if e.g you want/need to go from say Alsancak to Catalkoy or Karaoglanoglu to Karsyaka. Obviously you could very well not be stopped at all, but if you were, at least you would be legal and have done the right thing. I don't know what the odds are of being stopped or how many police are out and about, so I suppose you make your own decision.

[Chriswright03]

Sophie I think it has all changed tonight.