Turkish economy

[Charlieboy]

Erdogan says that Turkey is at its peak economically.... What a total idiot !!

[sophie]

Trump says there is no such thing as Climate change either!!

[Hedge-fund]

He's trying for Comical Ali's all time record.

[Hedge-fund]

Trump says there is no such thing as Climate change either!!

There is, has always been and always will be climate change.

[Brinsley]

Boris doesn't care either, just rips up international agreements because it's not in his global plan interest to Rule the World as is his want!
Eaton School told him so; 'Not only captains of industry but of the globe'!

[erol]

Hail the glorious new era for the UK

Britannia waives the rules.

(I stole that)

[Brazen]

Trump says there is no such thing as Climate change either!!

I believe he actually doesn’t believe in man made climate change, like many others!

[PoshinDevon]

Hail the glorious new era for the UK

Britannia waives the rules.

(I stole that)

Not convinced the Turkish economy is doing that well despite Erdogans pronouncements. The TL is looking a little sad and it doesn’t look like recovering anytime soon.

Meanwhile in other news......

Bill Cash MP. Longest serving sitting MP certainly knows his stuff.

Internal Market Bill passed its second reading by a majority of 77.

[Hedge-fund]

Well done Boris!

UK - the whole of it - is back in charge of its own destiny.

Britannia makes the rules for itself and doesn't have to take orders from a corrupt foreign entity.

Trade with us if you want. Don't if you don't.

[Keithcaley]

"(I stole that)"

I know!

[erol]

Well done Boris!

UK - the whole of it - is back in charge of its own destiny.

Britannia makes the rules for itself and doesn't have to take orders from a corrupt foreign entity.

Interesting concept that the party that is seeking to unilaterally amend parts of an agreement it signed a mere 8 months ago is not the corrupt one and the party that is not seeking to repudiate its signature is

Maybe time for the RoC to make the rules for itself and take back Akrotiri and Dhekelia perhaps ?

Anyway we have strayed somewhat off topic I think.

[IPMAN]

"(I stole that)"

I know!

beat that

[IPMAN]

"(I stole that)"

I know!

beat that

[IPMAN]

"(I stole that)"

I know!

beat that

[frugal90]

The Westminster government has become a laughing stock!

[Keithcaley]

"(I stole that)"

I know!

beat that

here you go!

[thornaby]

Article 50 never required an agreement on a divorce settlement before a trade agreement was reached. The uk signed up to it believing the Eu would act in good faith in the trade negotiations as required in the divorce settlement, they have not. It is the Eu who have broken the agreement and Bo Jo has every right to introduce a law that would protect the exports of Uk goods to Northern Ireland. IItaly owis a vast amount of money that has to be repaid in months and are expected to pay a lot of money in to this emergency Eu fund and get a lot less out it The Eu know that Italy could follow the Uk and leave the Eu cess pit. This would lead to the collapse of the Eu, not a bad thing in my veiw. Three cheers for Brexit!

[Up the Reds.]

Same posters, same politics !! Everyone in my local hostelry knows exactly the politics of the daily posters so please give it a rest !! Read the bill put forward in Parliament before making partisan and uninformed comment. Hard hat on Erol !!

[Up the Reds.]

AND this post is about the 'Turkish Economy' !!!

[SATRANÇ]

Meanwhile, back to the Turkish Economy. (Clue is in the title of this thread), I note that the Lira has slid to a record low against Cable after Moody's downgrading!

[erol]

Same posters, same politics !! Everyone in my local hostelry knows exactly the politics of the daily posters so please give it a rest !! Read the bill put forward in Parliament before making partisan and uninformed comment. Hard hat on Erol !!

Not really a defense but I did not 'start it' (going off topic), just reacted. As ever if the thread starter asks me to stop going off topic, I will, without complaint. If a mod / admin asks me to I will without complaint. If anyone else does I probably will just keep on if I feel like it.

How many people in your local hosterly [sic] would predict that my views on any given political subject would match Sajid Javid's opinion 99.9% I wonder ?

I guess his opinion is also partisan and uninformed ? It is almost like you could end up believing that any opinion that does not agree with yours is by definition partisan and uninformed ?

[erol]

Meanwhile, back to the Turkish Economy. (Clue is in the title of this thread), I note that the Lira has slid to a record low against Cable after Moody's downgrading!

Cable ? I suspect some 'predictive text' issues here ? Anyway not record lows vs Sterling though Yet.

[SATRANÇ]

Yes sorry you are right! USD v GBP is referred to as Cable. It's the heat!

[Up the Reds.]

Erol, I am in no way suggesting we should not have differing views on any political subject but unfortunately when anything happens in the UK or anywhere else there is an immediate 'approval' or 'disapproval' based solely on whichever political 'leaning' the poster has. I myself take the view that any decision taken by any government is either, in my opinion, sensible or not. A good idea is just that and similarly for a bad idea. We now have in the UK for instance absolute extreme political entities on both sides of the spectrum ..Antifa, Momentum, Extinction Rebellion and BLM and on the other side Common Purpose and maybe the Freemasons. Unfortunately none of these want debate and in fact if you disagree with their view you will get abuse and even violence. I always think that when a poster on any forum starts by an insult they just have no interest in debate.
It is highly unlikely that a Boris voter is likely to agree with a Corbyn voter but to just post an insult does not help to inform or change anyone's opinion. As to my political affiliation ...I am an atheist, not aligned to any of them.

[Up the Reds.]

Back to topiv ...it is quite worrying that the Turkish government seem not to have the same view on economics as the rest of the World !,

[Up the Reds.]

Sorry ..topic ..!

[erol]

... but unfortunately when anything happens in the UK or anywhere else there is an immediate 'approval' or 'disapproval' based solely on whichever political 'leaning' the poster has.

Yet on this specific issue my opinion is not just based on a knee jerk reaction because of my 'political leanings' as evidenced by the fact that they are entirely the same as those of Sajid Javid, someone who could not be described as sharing my general political leanings ?

Unfortunately none of these want debate and in fact if you disagree with their view you will get abuse and even violence. I always think that when a poster on any forum starts by an insult they just have no interest in debate.
It is highly unlikely that a Boris voter is likely to agree with a Corbyn voter but to just post an insult does not help to inform or change anyone's opinion. As to my political affiliation ...I am an atheist, not aligned to any of them.

Where have I resorted to insult, abuse or threat of violence in this thread ? Where have I come any where near as close to resorting to insult as describing someone with a different opinion as merely being partisan and uninformed and implying they have not read and consider the Bill in question ?

[erol]

Back on topic, for me and for what it is worth, any discussion about how 'egregious' a claim that 'Turkey is at its peak economically' may or may not be, that does not define at all over what kind of time scale you are talking, is pretty pointless ?

[Up the Reds.]

Erol, where did you get the idea that you were guilty of insult etc .. certainly not in my mind?? I was talking generally !

[erol]

Erol, where did you get the idea that you were guilty of insult etc .. certainly not in my mind?? I was talking generally !

I guess from the way you addressed your reply talking about such behaviours to me specifically by name. Anyway happy to have that cleared up now.

[EnjoyingTheSun]

Trump says there is no such thing as Climate change either!!

There is, has always been and always will be climate change.

For sure, everyone agrees on that and knows it. What no one knows is how much human's are causing it

[EnjoyingTheSun]

Trump says there is no such thing as Climate change either!!

I believe he actually doesn’t believe in man made climate change, like many others!

Can you tell me the optimum level of CO2 in the atmosphere and exactly what effect it will have on our climate when zero man made emissions are achieved? Also can you explain how the medieval warming period occurred?
Shouldn't be difficult, after all the science is settled on all this I understand

[EnjoyingTheSun]

Back to topiv ...it is quite worrying that the Turkish government seem not to have the same view on economics as the rest of the World !,

If your currency is sliding you put up interest rates. That for political reasons they cut interest rates when they should leave them or raise them is a green light for currency speculators.

The major thing is how Turkey's manufacturing industry is doing tbh.
If you make things and can sell them abroad you always have a chance

[EnjoyingTheSun]

What will be interesting is how much are the Turkish government supporting the TL by selling foreign reserves etc and when will they run out? And do they have a line in the sand at which they will raise interest rates. EG 8 dollars or 10 sterling or euro?
Speculators will be betting on that at the moment for sure.

[Brinsley]

For ailing tyrant rulers as Erdogan is, the currency level does not bring the populace to unite unlike a good damn war against the Greeks would! Hence, lots of Turk war ships cruising around the Med!!

[Brazen]

Trump says there is no such thing as Climate change either!!

I believe he actually doesn’t believe in man made climate change, like many others!

Can you tell me the optimum level of CO2 in the atmosphere and exactly what effect it will have on our climate when zero man made emissions are achieved? Also can you explain how the medieval warming period occurred?
Shouldn't be difficult, after all the science is settled on all this I understand

Are you asking me? If so don’t bother I am of the natural climate change school. There was actually an article on the bbc websire a few days ago which was about a civilisation which was wiped out about 2500-3000 years ago by climate change. Must have been caused by those Chelsea tractors. There are several instances over history where similar has happened.

[EnjoyingTheSun]

I believe he actually doesn’t believe in man made climate change, like many others!

Can you tell me the optimum level of CO2 in the atmosphere and exactly what effect it will have on our climate when zero man made emissions are achieved? Also can you explain how the medieval warming period occurred?
Shouldn't be difficult, after all the science is settled on all this I understand

Are you asking me? If so don’t bother I am of the natural climate change school. There was actually an article on the bbc websire a few days ago which was about a civilisation which was wiped out about 2500-3000 years ago by climate change. Must have been caused by those Chelsea tractors. There are several instances over history where similar has happened.

I've yet to receive an answer to those questions so anyone will do!
97% of scientists agree and the science is settled so why when you ask a few simple questions why do you just get insults and no answers?

I've never known scientists who are less willing to discuss their research and defend it than the climate lobby. For them it's settled and we aren't to question it.......ever.
The other interesting thing is that what is highlighted is the money the fossil industries spend debunking it. It's a drop in the ocean compared to the research grants and subsidies given to the other side. If I was after money I know which side is best to go with

[Charlieboy]

Brinsley......very true