Ada pass now compulsory

[Hair Cut]

Come on !!! Who deleted my post this morning?

It was factual and Correct. No, swear words.

If you don't want to own up PM me.

[Soner]

Come on !!! Who deleted my post this morning?

It was factual and Correct. No, swear words.

If you don't want to own up PM me.

I just checked the logs, and NO post was deleted this morning.

[waddo]

Teatime, I tend to agree with you regarding “Smart Phone” and the older generation, quite a lot of us “Older” yearn for a device to make telephone- remember what they were? - calls on and send little messages to each other. “Thumb Boxes” or smart phones are for people of the younger generation addicted to Facebook, Twitter, Instagram and the all important WhatsApp! They are used less and less for spoken communications these days. As to the AdaPass App it will only fail to work if people refuse to use it! Now, put a bar code scanner on every access door to all establishments and connect it to the lock on the door so that you need an AdaPass to actually open the door and the problem is solved. The big problem is getting new tech in place before the rules are activated.

Anyway, just a thought but how would it create “Pingdemic” if lots of “Older” people don’t have a smart phone?

[forestpixie]

Soner, have the government confirmed its 72 hr Antigen test or are PCR also accepted? I can't find anything anywhere :-/

[Soner]

See this from 10th July: https://www.aa.com.tr/en/world/pcr-anti ... us/2300038

[sammydavis]

Can't see anywhere what an Adapass is exactly!! Having had both AZ jabs do I also have to apply for this???? Why? and what happens when someone has not had any jabs?

[forestpixie]

See this from 10th July: https://www.aa.com.tr/en/world/pcr-anti ... us/2300038

Ah ok so rules as before for dining outside etc but now they've added supermarkets.

[Soner]

Can't see anywhere what an Adapass is exactly!! Having had both AZ jabs do I also have to apply for this???? Why? and what happens when someone has not had any jabs?

They would need to get a 72hr Antigen test done.

[PoshinDevon]

Interesting reading this topic.

Still remain to be convinced on the ADA pass to gain entry to basic everyday services or businesses. There is no way that the Turkish Cypriot old boys who gather in the cafes of a morning and evening for their backgammon games, chat or read the paper are going to do this.

I will place a bet now that in a few months hardly any business will ask for it and many people will just not bother with it. Covid 19 will; like flu, be something that we must all learn to live with. Getting vaccinated is the way to help prevent catching it or not having very serious symptoms. A pass showing vaccination is not a guarantee that you are not carrying and passing on Covid 19, nor does it make you immune from catching it.

Once the pandemic is under control, passes or bits of paper to go about your everyday business will not be accepted by the general public. There has to be long term view and an exit strategy or the general public will just grow weary of restrictions.

Travel is a different matter of course .

[EnjoyingTheSun]

Interesting reading this topic.

Still remain to be convinced on the ADA pass to gain entry to basic everyday services or businesses. There is no way that the Turkish Cypriot old boys who gather in the cafes of a morning and evening for their backgammon games, chat or read the paper are going to do this.

I will place a bet now that in a few months hardly any business will ask for it and many people will just not bother with it. Covid 19 will; like flu, be something that we must all learn to live with. Getting vaccinated is the way to help prevent catching it or not having very serious symptoms. A pass showing vaccination is not a guarantee that you are not carrying and passing on Covid 19, nor does it make you immune from catching it.

Once the pandemic is under control, passes or bits of paper to go about your everyday business will not be accepted by the general public. There has to be long term view and an exit strategy or the general public will just grow weary of restrictions.

Travel is a different matter of course .

There never was going to be an exit strategy.

Obviously when visiting these places we must be within our rights to see proof that all staff have had a test within the last few days for flu, HIV, Hepatitis A or B, TB, cholera, ebola, smallpox, measles, mumps, rubella etc etc

Also, I'd prefer prefer not to be in contact with anyone who is on or uses recreational drugs such as marijuana, cocaine, meth, fentanyl, etc, so I don't think it's unfair for them to provide me with recent tox screens.

Better safe than sorry

[waddo]

https://www.yeniduzen.com/ustel-adapass ... 43355h.htm

Latest on the AdaPass, worth a read but still a lot of confusion there I think.

[Soner]

https://www.yeniduzen.com/ustel-adapass ... 43355h.htm

Latest on the AdaPass, worth a read but still a lot of confusion there I think.

Seems like use of AdaPass is to target certain businesses, not all:

"AdaPass system will be mandatory for businesses such as entertainment venues, casinos, hotels, betting offices where infection is most common, but small businesses that wish can also apply the AdaPass system."

[sammydavis]

The AdaPass is a way of downloading a certificate re your vaccination(s) to say, your computer/phone etc. instead of or, as well as, carrying around the green cert. you get after vaccs done. Not too onerous to do.

[forestpixie]

https://www.yeniduzen.com/ustel-adapass ... 43355h.htm

Latest on the AdaPass, worth a read but still a lot of confusion there I think.

Seems like use of AdaPass is to target certain businesses, not all:

"AdaPass system will be mandatory for businesses such as entertainment venues, casinos, hotels, betting offices where infection is most common, but small businesses that wish can also apply the AdaPass system."

So not supermarkets then?

[PoshinDevon]

The AdaPass is a way of downloading a certificate re your vaccination(s) to say, your computer/phone etc. instead of or, as well as, carrying around the green cert. you get after vaccs done. Not too onerous to do.

I don’t think it’s about how easy or not it is to download. Although getting into the website to download has at times not been straightforward.

Firstly many people, especially those older do not have smart phones or are able to use the technology.

Secondly; what is the purpose of having a pass?

To have to have a pass downloaded to a phone or printed to go about your daily business just will not work. People will not use it, businesses will not use it. The public will push back on these restrictions.

A pass of course will show you have been vaccinated, useful if you wish to travel to a country which requires proof. This needs to be supported further by PCR tests either prior to or on arrival at your destination. Maybe it would be of limited use at locations where it has been proven that cases of Covid are higher, such as mass events, casinos etc.

However; the pass does not prove that you are not carrying the virus and can therefore pass it on to someone else. Obviously it does not offer protection should you come in contact with someone who has a pass showing they are vaccinated but may be carrying the virus.

Everyone if they can should take the vaccine to protect themselves and others as far as possible
As an individual you have to take responsibility for your safety and that of others. If you feel uncomfortable entering crowded areas then don’t enter. The wearing of a mask, regularly sanitising hands and practicing social distancing is far more effective.

Hopefully common sense will prevail but bits of paper or something on your phone to enter cafes, restaurants, supermarkets etc is not the way forward.

[Soner]

https://www.yeniduzen.com/ustel-adapass ... 43355h.htm

Latest on the AdaPass, worth a read but still a lot of confusion there I think.

Seems like use of AdaPass is to target certain businesses, not all:

"AdaPass system will be mandatory for businesses such as entertainment venues, casinos, hotels, betting offices where infection is most common, but small businesses that wish can also apply the AdaPass system."

So not supermarkets then?

No. Not on the list.

[waddo]

Seems strange that as the supermarkets contain daily the biggest turn over in customers that they are not on the current list of "Mandatory" places - either left off by accident or to many people would complain if they were put on.

Either do it properly or don't do it at all I was always told - guess it does not apply here - YET!

[EnjoyingTheSun]

Seems strange that as the supermarkets contain daily the biggest turn over in customers that they are not on the current list of "Mandatory" places - either left off by accident or to many people would complain if they were put on.

Either do it properly or don't do it at all I was always told - guess it does not apply here - YET!

Maybe trying to starve people into compliance is frowned on?
Bloody do-gooding wet lettuces.

[forestpixie]

Seems strange that as the supermarkets contain daily the biggest turn over in customers that they are not on the current list of "Mandatory" places - either left off by accident or to many people would complain if they were put on.

Either do it properly or don't do it at all I was always told - guess it does not apply here - YET!

Maybe trying to starve people into compliance is frowned on?
Bloody do-gooding wet lettuces.

I sincerely hope it is! Seems the list they initially announced has been reconsidered thank goodness.

[Chriswright03]

Come on !!! Who deleted my post this morning?

It was factual and Correct. No, swear words.

If you don't want to own up PM me.

If you refresh the page too quickly or go to another page it doesn't actually post when you press enter. Always wait and make sure your page has automatically refreshed with the new post to make sure. I have done it on occasions and had to repost which when you have posted loads of rambling twaddle can sometime be a good thing.

[Keithcaley]

If you refresh the page too quickly or go to another page it doesn't actually post when you press enter. Always wait and make sure your page has automatically refreshed with the new post to make sure. I have done it on occasions and had to repost which when you have posted loads of rambling twaddle can sometime be a good thing.

I've done that! - posted loads of rambling twaddle, that is - as well as changing pages too quickly

You live and learn...

[Belkin]

Have tried many times since Friday to get this but no joy so far. Does anyone else have a problem?

[Soner]

Have tried many times since Friday to get this but no joy so far. Does anyone else have a problem?

See bottom of this page on AdaPass for help: https://kibkomnorthcyprusforum.com/view ... 52#p277052
you should call 1111 and wait for operator, they speak English.

[benjaminbutton]

I wouldn't be able to obtain ADApass, because for reasons that no one can figure out, my first jab is not registered on the system. Everyone agrees that the green card is absolutely genuine etc and information on it is accurate, but not registered on computer despite the fact I saw it being entered. Nevertheless after a few few phone calls to H.O I was given my third jab today. Nothing is ever perfect is it?

[waddo]

BJB, that is not making any sense at all! If you have a green card then, by now, it will have three bar code stickers on it? Two of them will be registered on the system? One of them is not? Because you have one sticker on your card then that is the bar code of a jab you have received. If that bar code is not on the system that is not your fault, it is the fault of the data inputer who has missed it off. You have the proof that you have had the jab, ask them to input the data or explain where that bar code is now!

[13roman58]

Contact them via WhatsApp, upload your green card,residency permission,and passport.
That is all the information required for Ada pass.
Very helpful person on the other end .

[poppy++1]

Have been trying since last Friday to create our ADA pass. Run credit down on the phone, listening to music for 4 hours on and off yesterday, got through only to have the phone put down twice. Eventually got a man with good English, went through everything, we have a problem we are not listed........ Asked for copies of passport etc by phone to another number, explained not on whatsup and won't send....... Sat and input all the details by hand sent it all across and .......... NOTHING still can't get into it, sent a text to the number given nothing
Phone credit is not enough to phone again today
They come up with great ideas, but just the slightest mistake and you don't exist don't you just love it.

18 Aug and still WAITING for the promised phone call

[benjaminbutton]

Waddo, sorry if I appear argumentative, but when we had our first two jabs at the Poly Clinic in Lefkosia they were NOT issuing "tear off" bar code stickers, just hand written batch numbers. Yesterday, when I had my third jab, they stuck a bar code on though. It isn't helped by the fact that our residency ran out last week and although I'm having to pay an agent, we still cannot decided which to go for, Options 2, 3 or 4. Certainly not 1.

[13roman58]

Anyone having a problem with Ada pass can go to the clinic where they had the jabs between 12.00 and 14.00 and they will ensure that you are in the system.

[Joe Soap]

Thank you Roman for the information. I know I am on the system as I checked with the administrators entering the data last week when i had my jab.

Anyone else having difficulty in obtaining the ADA document?

For some unknown reason both my wife's and my own personal details were not accepted, so as instructed I phoned the ADA helpline 1111.
Waited for 6 minutes and was answered very curtly. Female answered - I don't speak English (even before i managed to say Dur). We will call you back.
Waited an hour nothing.
Phoned again - you are in line (or similar message) and was cut off.

Phoned 6 time since. Can't get through. Lines engaged.

Should I bother?

(Was Biden involved in this project?)

[13roman58]

Joe Soap ,
try the WhatsApp no,that's how I got mine,

[13roman58]

Joe Soap ,
WhatsApp no,they even put on my third (booster) on Monday.
0548 8239988

[lilnrob]

Have managed to get Adapass - had to wait about 20-25 mins on the phone, but helpful chap said on both mine and my husbands that the only information correct was the passport number, the rest had been input wrongly. He changed everything and all was well.

[mrsgee]

Have to say, now given up...... thankfully we can go to the supermarket without this stupid pass. I got our passes a couple of months ago, when this whole fiasco started..... no problem except the first and second dates for the jabs were the same. Decided to print it off anyway on the off chance that the QR code in the corner would be correct, who knows. So, when all the latest fuss started about needing the Adapass..... I thought, ok will try again and see if the dates are now corrected....... nope. Just the same error message that everyone is getting to phone 1111. So, yesterday went for booster jab, information was input, so I am thinking, ah ha.... maybe it is now correct. Not so....... But, as I do not frequent casinos, hotels, places of disripute...... I refuse to keep wasting precious moments of my life..... so I will wait until the whole thing implodes........ as per normal.

[forestpixie]

Apparently its required for supermarkets and also barbers and nail salons but weirdly not the dentist!

[mrsgee]

Apparently its required for supermarkets and also barbers and nail salons but weirdly not the dentist!

I could be totally wrong, and often am, ha ha, but the latest list excluded supermarkets, I think. otherwise there will be an awful lot of business lost, and fresh produce wasted...... if people cannot get the pass through no fault of their own....... and I refuse to go for a PCR test just to go shopping.... when I have been jabbed to death.....

[forestpixie]

I questioned this also but it seems to be in govt announcement. Crazy if its true

[Soner]

Apparently its required for supermarkets and also barbers and nail salons but weirdly not the dentist!

This was last I read:
"AdaPass system will be mandatory for businesses such as entertainment venues, casinos, hotels, betting offices where infection is most common, but small businesses that wish can also apply the AdaPass system."

If you have seen something up to date, then please share link.

[forestpixie]

This is what i thought but not according to this https://saglik.gov.ct.tr/BULA%C5%9EICI- ... N-KARARLAR

[forestpixie]

Its all a mishmash of rules and thoughts

[Soner]

A little confusing to say the least.


I believe this is for business personnel to register for AdaPass.
This is what it says:

As adapass query will be made for people who enter the venue/industry/activity/events in the future, the following sectors must register on adapass.gov.ct.tr/company/register until 20/08/2021.

Sectors: Bar and club, tavern, cafe, restaurant, supermarket, internet cafe, bet office, night club, barber, hairdresser, beauty parlors, massage parlors, tattoo shops, sectors that will hold collective events, shops-boutiques, cinema-theatre halls, concerts -exhibitions, indoor sports halls, indoor swimming pools, hotels, casinos, youth camps, wedding-engagement-circumcision ceremonies, bingo, indoor children's playgrounds, places of worship

Note: Sectors not mentioned above can optionally register at adapass.gov.ct.tr.


But it seems that Negative Antigen and PCR results are acceptable for entry:

Activities that will request PCR/Antigen testing at entries

Persons who will enter the hotel for the purpose of accommodation and / or hotel activities

Customers entering the closed areas of restaurants, bakeries, cafes and taverns

Customers entering the closed areas of coffee houses, coffee houses, cafeterias and locals

Customers entering internet cafes

Customers entering Bet offices

Audience of theater/concert/exhibition performances by professional artists

Audiences entering movie theaters

People who will watch indoor gyms

People who will watch the competition in indoor swimming pools

People who will watch boxing, wrestling and melee sports competitions

Indoor gyms (fitness, individual) customers

Collective dance, ceremony, festival, music, etc. People who will attend your events

Persons who will attend public places of worship indoors

-The above-mentioned sectors will request antigen or PCR tests within the last 72 hours if people are unvaccinated at the entrances.


-Antigen or PCR test will not be sought from vaccinated people and people who have had the disease between 30-180 days.

Note: Unvaccinated customers will not be accepted to nightclubs, bar-clubs and casinos.

[PoshinDevon]

Sadly the whole idea of this pass is a complete mess.

A pass is virtually meaningless. All it proves is that you have been vaccinated.

It does not prove that you are not carrying the virus and therefore can pass it on to someone else. It does not prevent anyone contracting the virus. In fact 1 in 3 people who have the virus show no symptoms.

To protect yourself and others the easiest thing to do is wear a mask, sanitise your hands, maintain social distancing and if you are really concerned avoid very crowded areas.

Having a test to go into various buildings is also another strange idea. What people should be encouraged to do is regularly take a lateral flow test at home. If the result is positive; do not ignore it, take responsibility and self isolate.

The public will soon get tired of being refused entry by not presenting a pass which is often difficult to obtain via the current technology. They will also push back on meaningless restrictions. Covid is going to be with us; much like the flu, we have to learn to live with it.

It should be more about using common sense.

[Dalartokat]

This information gives everything and changes in red. Very lengthy read….. https://www.infonorthcyprus.com/trnc-rules

Also this is on the Ministry of Health and is written exactly as posted.


Statement of Ministry of Health

Those who have problems with the Seals of the COVID-19 vaccination card can go to the center where they are vaccinated and get sealed.

Also, people having problems registering to the AdaPass system can register to the system between 12.00 and 14.00 between the week and 12.00 It is announced to the public.

[forestpixie]

Sadly the whole idea of this pass is a complete mess.

A pass is virtually meaningless. All it proves is that you have been vaccinated.

It does not prove that you are not carrying the virus and therefore can pass it on to someone else. It does not prevent anyone contracting the virus. In fact 1 in 3 people who have the virus show no symptoms.

To protect yourself and others the easiest thing to do is wear a mask, sanitise your hands, maintain social distancing and if you are really concerned avoid very crowded areas.

Having a test to go into various buildings is also another strange idea. What people should be encouraged to do is regularly take a lateral flow test at home. If the result is positive; do not ignore it, take responsibility and self isolate.

The public will soon get tired of being refused entry by not presenting a pass which is often difficult to obtain via the current technology. They will also push back on meaningless restrictions. Covid is going to be with us; much like the flu, we have to learn to live with it.

It should be more about using common sense.

Yep.

[waddo]

Where, in the TRNC, can you take a lateral flow test at home?

[a1sysman]

…
The public will soon get tired of being refused entry by not presenting a pass which is often difficult to obtain via the current technology. They will also push back on meaningless restrictions.
…

Well, we are guests here.

The authorities could refuse residency for those who decline, or claim to be medically unable, to be vaccinated.

It may come to it the authorities here refusing to allow entry to people without proof of vaccination.

[PoshinDevon]

…
The public will soon get tired of being refused entry by not presenting a pass which is often difficult to obtain via the current technology. They will also push back on meaningless restrictions.
…

Well, we are guests here.

The authorities could refuse residency for those who decline, or claim to be medically unable, to be vaccinated.

It may come to it the authorities here refusing to allow entry to people without proof of vaccination.

I agree we are guests and we must comply with the regulations.

However at present; to enter the TRNC from the U.K. you need to prove you have been double vaccinated, have a PCR test prior to flight and have a quick test on arrival. The issue is that those double vaccinated in the U.K. or elsewhere for that matter have no way of getting the AdaPass. So is your proof of double vaccination going to be acceptable? This question has not been answered.

So if you are double vaccinated, the TRNC will let you in as you have documents and proved double vaccination, however you may find it difficult to go to a restaurant, bar etc as you will not have the AdaPass. That will no doubt start some negative discussions on social media, especially from tourists, visiting family and friends etc.

As I have said a pass is meaningless. It is not offering protection to you or others. All it proves is double vaccinatedl. One in three people show no symptoms of Covid. You could be carrying the virus, transmitting the virus to others without knowing. Wearing masks, distancing, sanitising hands and avoiding very crowded places is the way to reduce the chance of catching the virus.

I am all for following the regulations but as can be seen on this topic it is by no means straightforward and easy to comply.

[Belkin]

Managed to get through on the 1111 line this morning after waiting in a queue. Lady ssid she had sorted it for both myself and my husband. She said wait 15 minutes and then try again. Still did not work after 2 hours. We had our jabs at Tatlisu so went up there as we had been told someone from ADA pass would be there between 12 noon and 2pm. They knew nothing about this but told us to go to Esentepe. Went up there straight away and got sorted. Very efficient. We now have our ADA pass yippee.

[forestpixie]

…
The public will soon get tired of being refused entry by not presenting a pass which is often difficult to obtain via the current technology. They will also push back on meaningless restrictions.
…

Well, we are guests here.

The authorities could refuse residency for those who decline, or claim to be medically unable, to be vaccinated.

It may come to it the authorities here refusing to allow entry to people without proof of vaccination.

I agree we are guests and we must comply with the regulations.

However at present; to enter the TRNC from the U.K. you need to prove you have been double vaccinated, have a PCR test prior to flight and have a quick test on arrival. The issue is that those double vaccinated in the U.K. or elsewhere for that matter have no way of getting the AdaPass. So is your proof of double vaccination going to be acceptable? This question has not been answered.

So if you are double vaccinated, the TRNC will let you in as you have documents and proved double vaccination, however you may find it difficult to go to a restaurant, bar etc as you will not have the AdaPass. That will no doubt start some negative discussions on social media, especially from tourists, visiting family and friends etc.

As I have said a pass is meaningless. It is not offering protection to you or others. All it proves is double vaccinatedl. One in three people show no symptoms of Covid. You could be carrying the virus, transmitting the virus to others without knowing. Wearing masks, distancing, sanitising hands and avoiding very crowded places is the way to reduce the chance of catching the virus.

I am all for following the regulations but as can be seen on this topic it is by no means straightforward and easy to comply.

I'm assuming there will be some kind of random ill thought out explanation tonight, I'm assuming tomorrow is the day!

[steve66]

Belkin, where in Esentepe did you go to. I am the same as you, got my 2 jabs at Tatlisu medical centre.