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I am having great difficulty sleeping can anyone recommend a natural sleeping suppliment (:"()

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Nytol or Kalms.

I also find playing 'Ocean Sounds' or White Noise helps too. I play these via Amazon Alexa!

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Out here best one is Unisom any chemist sell them

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Gates are they a natural tablet

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Yes think so I take not habit forming. I know lots people take them

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Hello,

I have severe sleeping issues from many years and tried a lot of medications, hence, I can suggest a couple of things.
I would first recommend going with magnesium and valerian root, combined with sleeping tea called "Cleopatra" (contains mint valeriana root, passion flower, etc) . It's sold in the pharmacy in karaoglanoglu opposite Ship Inn hotel. Costs around 30TL and will last you for 2 weeks or so. This is a more natural (yet efficient way) to get a good sleep. Combine the above with these rules:
1. Try to go to bed at the same time and wake up at the same time every day (including weekends). First days it will be hard but you will get used to it.
2. No screens, PC, mobile phone, tv 1 hour before bedtime. Instead - read a book for an hour. I have found this very efficient.
3. Take a warm shower before bed time
4. Make sure your room's temperature is a bit cooler. Don't use heating, just bigger blankets if needed.
5. Include exercising or a at least a 1 hour walk in the afternoon.

What other member suggested - Unisom. This is a strong anti histamine and one tablet (recommended dose) will switch you off for a good night's sleep. However, there are two disadvantages - one is that on the next day, till the afternoon, you will feel fuzzy and hangovered. Second problem is that taking it for more than a week every day immediately triggers and addiction and you will have a very hard time sleeping after even for few hours per night without it. I would highly suggest not going for Unisom from my personal experience with it. I have tried all the medications for sleeping such as Unisom, Xanax, Pregabalin, etc. They work perfectly, but they trigger bad addictions and don't solve the problem in the long run.
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The addiction is a worry,ii got 75 mg of zopiclone they worked but I read up on it and over seventy years old could cause problems,so that is the reason for looking for a plant based tablet,no sleep now for 2 days,my daughter mentioned magnesium,unison and nytol never worked,what are you taking now iv

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I am taking the Cleopatra sleeping tea. It's a local brand a guess. It contains herbs such as valeriana root, mint, passion flower, etc. I take some extra valeriana root tablets as well. Occasionally when I need a lot of energy for the next day and I want to ensure a good night's sleep, I would take 0.5mg tablet of Xanax (needs a prescription!) . However, I wouldn't recommend taking it more than once per week. Regarding zopiclone - it's a strong medication like xanax and i would question its safety in the long run.

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i now take lozopan. They may be addictive but i get a great night sleep . I think its more important to get a good nights sleep than worry about addiction. Bad sleeping can seriously damage your health addiction is easy over come if you ever decided to stop. not me i prefer my sleep. I get 8 hours every night and being 72 i find even more i need it

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Hate and won't touch anything that is addictive, that is why I take Nytol, either 25gm or 50gm - Herbal range (the original range is slightly stronger though but not addictive) As above so many other make you feel woozy until mid day and I consider that if your balance is affected, or if going upstairs and downstairs is iffy because your spacial awareness is suspect, plus using anything mechanical or driving, it just isn't worth it. Coming from what was in the UK, a registered insomniac, that's saying something.

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A lot of medication can be habit forming and have side effects but it depends on the individual. In addition to that there there is also the drug tolerance built up with repeated use, such as with anti-biotics. I used to use Nytol as suggested above as it was cheaper than prescription and herbal too but can work out expensive long run. That was mainly due to the wife snoring, but for the last few years I've just put cotton wool in my ears and this works perfectly fine, for me.

Yes i do snore as well, but you can peg my wife on a clothes line and she'd be asleep in under a minute, so my snoring isn't a problem, but for myself and some others getting to sleep, it isn't always that easy.

iv_cyprus has some good suggestions above and again it depends on the individual. I can start reading a book and be there for hours or sit watching TV and drop off as soon as Pointless starts.

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Instead of cotton wall the ear plugs they use on building sites are terrific you can’t here a thing. My wife used to snor i came up with the idea when working on site. Also great if you have a barking dog problem. They now sell in chemists. Really do the job

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Yes I suppose addiction is a minor problem if you get a good sleep

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I've had trouble sleeping for many years now, which was initially due to traffic noise when I lived and worked in Baku (Azerbaijan), then was compounded by developing Tinnitus, which leaves me with constant high-pitched noise in my head all day and night (made worse by earplugs). I've been using Unisom for the last couple of years, on the recommendation of my local Pharmacist in Girne, and it has certainly helped me fall asleep, and stay asleep for longer. It's not a knock-out drug, but just seems to take the edge off all the thoughts going around in my head, and let me get to sleep. Once awake though, I'm wide awake, which I think is mainly down to a lifetime of getting up early from a young age (newspaper delivery rounds). I'm really grateful that I haven't ever felt any morning-after effects from Unisom (as described by others), as I would definitely have stopped using them immediately. My Pharmacist also assured me that Unisom is non-addictive, and I hope that she is correct. So, Hammerhead, I'd recommend that you have a good look at Unisom, do some online research, and talk to a Pharmacist, then give them a try. I hope that you will find something that works for you. :-) HH

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I have tried unison and nytol but neither worked very well on me

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Take 2 unison anything for a good nights sleep 😴 it really is detrimental to your health and well being. I know what I would choose addiction over none sleep

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gates wrote:
Mon 01 Nov 2021 2:31 pm
Instead of cotton wall the ear plugs they use on building sites are terrific you can’t here a thing. My wife used to snor i came up with the idea when working on site. Also great if you have a barking dog problem. They now sell in chemists. Really do the job
Gates, those builders’ ear defenders are huge, so I think you must be referring to a different product. Could you please tell me what to ask for at a chemist? Thanks.

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Just ask for ear plugs. They are small. You squeeze them up and they expand in your ear so you can’t hear anything. Take out in morning. They are very cheap change after they wear

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Regarding ear plugs - I would recommend silicon ones. They work really really well. I have been using them for over 3 years. Initially the reason was the neighbors' water pumps switching on and off at night. Then I moved to a different place ,specifically looking for a higher floor so I don't hear the pumps. Well, this was sorted, but then I realized one morning at 5:30 that there is a mosque around which is super loud, especially for the early morning prayer, so I got back to ear plugs. Earplugs are a good solution if noise is the problem of your sleep. Most of the time the problems are related to some sort of anxiety or bad habits.
There is another factor which you should consider which was a big game changer for me and many people may not know it until they get themselves checked.
I used to wake up frequently at night and had very bad sleep, unless I took some heavy sleeping medications. I had some issues with my airflow through my nose. I went and checked it with a doctor. Apparently I had deviated septum in my nose and one of my nostrils was barely getting any air at all. Two and a half months ago I went for a surgery. Surgery was done and i had to recover for about a month (full recovery). From that moment I breath much better and also sleep better. This condition is very common and usually the cause of bad sleep and sleep apnea, so I would advise anybody who has sleeping problems to go check their nose.
Regarding the medications - I have never tried unisom 2 tablets, as even 1 knocks me down. Regarding unisom causing addiction or not - it personally messed me up very badly after taking it 2 weeks every day. Had quite the withdraw. Of course this probably varies from person to person.
From that moment on, I am trying to avoid pills as much as I can, however, occasionally I go for them in order to get a good sleep before an important working day or other similar activity.

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The other, very much a downside, of some drugs is when you either have a sick person in the house (who may get up during the night) or a baby. Either way you can't allow yourself to be knocked out.

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They don’t do that it’s a sleep aid not an anaesthetic. With the ear plugs surprisingly you still aware what is going on around you. Try and see one night is not that dangerous. Falling asleep at the steering wheel is

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Nytol with a nice cup of herbal sleep tea

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That's the safest combination by far ginge. Of course there is the age old standby.......Night Nurse!!!! Used to knock me out and cure a bad cold at the same time.

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More expensive way . The unison is very cheap. Cheaper than nightalls

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Unisom is very cheap, because of what it is. It is a strong antihistamine with high addiction potential and nasty side effects. This is info from the producer directly:

"Can I take Unisom every night? No. Unisom is intended as a temporary sleep aid and should not be taken for more than two weeks. If you need ongoing help falling asleep, speak to your healthcare provider."

I agree that it is very efficient, but it puts you in a state of chemically induced sedation, which is not a good thing
Another pill which I didn't see anybody mentioning is Melatonin. It's a bit more costy but worked well for me. I used to take the biggest tablets of 10mg, as 5mg or 2mg did not do much for me. It's not addictive and it actually still works after stopping it.

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