Pet Cemetery

[Marions]

discussing with some friends recently about how to dispose of our beloved pets when it is their turn to go to the pet Heaven in the Sky, someone said there is a Pet Cemetery at a place called Top Dog Kennels. Does anyone know anything about this. I would love to know more and I am sure a lot of people owuld as well.

Help! Please!

[sophie]

I think a Pet Cemetery is advertised by the people who now own what was called K9 kennels. It's the other side of Esenteppe and slightly inland, but I can't remember the name of the village. They might be advertising in the Buzz book nowadays.

[Marions]

Thanks. I think they were friends of the lovely Sally Ann Burrell, who isno longer with us. Thanks. i will take a look in the Buzz book if I can find it!

at least that is a start. Thanks Sophie.

maybe KAR would like to start up a business , getting people to pay in advance for the plot of land. could help them financially??????

[Poppy]

It is K9 Kennels at Kaplica tel no 0533 883 3366. Or e mail k9countrykennels@hotmail.co.uk

[cjtill]

We have been thinking about this lately as our dogs are getting older and it would be lovely if there was a pet cemetery nearer to Girne. I know at KAR the land is largely rocks but I think this would be a good business as I am sure we would all like a final resting place for our beloved pets that we could visit

[Lor51]

Niyazi Celebi who used to have his vets practise next to pitstop has now moved to a bungalow type building next to Podium, informed me a couple of days ago that he will be doing a pet cemetery, a cattery and kennels. He also plans to have security cameras set up so that owners can check their pets out online when they are boarding their pets with him.

[Rambling Rose]

The K9 kennels are at Kaplica - rather a long way to go , particularly as you need to bury quickly for climatic reasons. I checked it out a couple of years ago but was very expensive. It is under new management now, but I gather the cost was because they have to hire a bulldozer to dig deep enough. Please let us know the results if you follow this up.

Lor51 Where is Podium, please?

[Marions]

thanks all for the feedback. I am so glad that there are others who feel as I and my friends do, that we need somewhere to put our beloved 'family' when they have to leave us.
Please do you have contact details for Niyazi - i would love to speak to him, and I echo RR's question 'Where is 'Podium'?
It also sounds as if there is room for several cemeteries around the island as so many of us have faithful companions in our lives to replace the families we have left behind or lost (due to death!). so keep the info coming to help each other. I am happy to collate all this and turn it into an article or two so that everyone has the info at their finger tips. But of course I need the info before it can go near any finger tips.

I was talking to my dog today and telling her that I don't want to throw her down a ravine, and equally my garden is too small for her, so I told her I was tyring to find out where she could be laid in dignity when her time of sharing our lives is up. I bet several of you feel the same as I.

[puppylover]

An article would be good Marion.

I hate the thought that when the time comes to say goodbye to a family pet, thought has to be given to where to bury them.

Not only does a digger have to be considered to dig a hole deep enough but also Lime has to be purchased in order to avoid a beloved pet from being dug up by other animals.

[Marions]

it is not only that, for me it would be good to know that there could be a fitting end to a creature that has shown nothing but love during its life time. So come on, everyone, tell me what you know and think! I need more info. I need to know who to contact, so I can compile some info.

[Lor51]

Not sure if this will come twice as I submitted it previously, but it seems to have got lost in cyberspace.
Niyazi is on 0533 8700222/03928245221

Podium is a large upmarket furniture store, it has a huge display of outdoor furniture. Its on the main road in Catalkoy on the left hand side coming from Girne to Esentepe (spelling) If you know where Pitstop is then it's maybe 2 minutes drive further on.
When you see Podium look for the road turning to the left BEFORE Podium
The vets is the first bungalow on the right.

His English is good and he has a nurse that speaks fluent English and Turkish.

[Marions]

Aha,. Yes, now I know. thanks so much. I will get in touch and try to see the man in his spare time!!!!! Of course if anyone else wants to contact him for their own peace of mind etc, then they may wlel beat me to it, and can share the info. I suggest we all put the info on file so at least it is a stepping stone in the right direction for us all.
Thanks again.

[stellasstar1]

I have my pets graves in my garden, with aloa vera cactus on top to keep them safe, but I do think it would be a great idea to have a pet cemetery.

[Marions]

If anyone has a suitable sized garden then it makes sense to bury pets there. I did in the past and there are a lot of beloved 'corpses' in kent, Wales and London, but out here, nothing suitably and as for those who may live in flats, it presents even more of a problem. so come on folks, tlel me what you know?So we can share it.

[Rambling Rose]

I have two dogs of beloved memory burried under paving slabs in my garden, but with three dogs now (assuming I outlive them all) I am really wondering how much of my garden I want turned into a cemetery. Also what happens if I need to move and have to sell.

But before we go too far we do need to consider local reaction - at the very least it would confirm suspicisons the Brits are mad!

I think any such venture would have to be out in the wilds (as the existingone is) and I would not be very happy with that. It is distressing enough that the human cemeteries are so inaccessible I could not attend a friend's funeral, nor can I tend the tree I planted so that I could have a local memorial of loved ones lying in another country.

Also a pets cemetery would probably on rented land - and the way things are going with no guarantee it would not be reclaimed for a hotel or casino, or motorway, or worse!

Sorry to be depressing, Marion, but I think we need to face facts of life where we live before going too far.

Assuming there is no religious objection to cremating animals, that would imho be the ideal, with complete hygeine and no worries abuot interference with bodies by humans or animals and the chance to scatter ashes in even the smallest garden, but I am afraid the cost would put it out of the question.

[Marions]

Some valid points, RR. What do other Kibkomers think? MKy own thinking is that cremation is more out of the question than burial in this 'Moslem' land, especially as fire could spread . But it is also true that if one wanted to sell, prospective buyers might not be too happy to learn that the garden was the resting place of several former pets. As to geography for visitation, that would not worry me, because I could be 6 feet under not long after mypets were buried, - but it is the thought of their having a decent final end.

But come on others. Is this practical and with whom, how and what. As to cost, everyone has their own opinion as to what is financially viable, and although many would be precluded from using such a service, there may wlel be many who could and would want to afford it.

So????????????????/

[Lor51]

I for one would prefer cremation, we had our Bassatt Hound cremated in Abu Dhabi. There wasnt a crematory in Abu so the vet sent her to the Indian Crematory in Dubai. She was returned in a plastic container and the vet then put her into a urn, and so when we moved here she came with us, we still have her and wait in hope that we will be able to cremate our other 2 pets and let them all go together.

[genghis]

My dog is nearing the end of his days and a decision may become necessary.
Presumeably Vets will put pets to sleep if that avoids any unnecessary suffering but what then happens to the bodies? Will the Vet dispose of them in a sympathetic manner?
I live in Lapta so any information/recommendations for this area would be very welcome.

[Marions]

Ghengis, I think KAR knows the answer to that, and I hope a representative posts a reply. I have an idea that euthanasia is not done, but I believe there is a system of administering pain killers. But there are those who know more than I do. As to disposal of the body, that is one of MY questions too. So come on someone, answer Ghengis and I. I really do feel that there is a need for somewhere we can be assured that our beloved animals can be laid to rest.

As they say 'further investigation required.' Help, folks.

[stellasstar1]

Yes of course if your pet has reached the end of it's life, and is too sick to carry on, then your vet will give them first an injection to keep them calm and then an injection to put them to sleep. Normally you will then take your pet home with you, because the vets don't have any easy way to dispose of the bodies, they are just collected by the Belediye, and then who knows what happens to them.

[sophie]

Stellastar is correct. Pets euthanised at the Vets and not taken away will be placed in a black plastic bag and removed. It is much better for the Vet to come to your home and the deed carried out there with smells and sounds that are familiar to the dog or cat. If possible you can have the animal buried in your own garden and a small monument or something placed on top. Make sure you dig down deep enough. There is always the sea of course and probably highly illegal.

[Rambling Rose]

Marion: Cremation isnt just a matter of chucking a body on a bonfire. It is burned at hightemperatures in a specialform of incinerator, and contrary to what makers of 007 films may think the process takes an hour or more, consuming a lot of expensive fuel. Then it has to cool and the remaining bone fragments reduced to "ashes" in another expensive piece of kit. And the smoke has to be dealt with by a form of filtering and high chimneys!

Unfortunately all this is very expensive and would be beyond the means of a group of pensioners - I doubt any local authority could afford it or even the Government, although it would be very beneficial for disposing of diseased and terminally sick stray animals of all kinds, reducing the spread of disease and risk of secondary poisening.

Another case for an EU Grant?

|Islam forbids cremation of humans, believing the human body should be treated with respect. I havent been able to find out the attitude to burning animal remains.

I agree it would be nice to hear from KAR on the subject. They surely must have to dispose of dead animals, including sick and poisened ones, and surely should have some concern for the problems faced by people who help them by caring for strays.

[sophie]

I believe that the basic price for a pet cremation facility would be far in excess of £25K on top of which I think it would be highly unlikely to be allowed. It's hardly something you can disguise is it? Of course those who truly believe that "when you're dead, you're dead" won't care one way or another will you. If you think about it carefully a funeral is an outward expression for the living to attend. If you genuinely believe in the hereafter and the soul of a person, then what happens to a corpse is irrelevant. I'm sure in your position Marion, you have had this discussion with grieving relatives many a time.

[Rambling Rose]

When one of my dogs developed terminal cancer, the Vet had no qualms about "putting her to sleep" - in fact I think she was slightly critical of me for possibly delaying the decision when the poor animal was starting to suffer. I think most of the Vets here would feel the same - it is putting down healthy animals they dont like as with Vets everywhere.I

She injected the dog while it stood with its front paws on my knee and I was stroking its head. I expected a slow drowsiness, but the animal turned into a literally dead weight within what felt like less than a second - so much so I nearly dropped it in surpise. But my "old friend" couldnt have had a quicker less stressful end. When I commented on the speed, the Vet just said "Strong Medicine"!

Neither this Vet nor the one who tried (sadly unsuccessfully ) to save another dog from poison could suggest anything about disposal. The latter in fact suggested burying it in a field, but that to my mind has several impractabilties and I dont know if it is even legal!

I suspect the Vets would be as glad as we would to have a decent, hygenic way of disposing of dead pets and even farm animals which sometimes die from disease! Perhaps you should canvass a few Vets , Marion?