Five years residency for over 60's

[benjaminbutton]

Assuming this does actually come in force at sometime in the not too distant future. Do I also assume we pay five years of medical fees etc in one lump sum.

[gates]

Who cares got to pay anyway and once bought they can’t put it up

[waddo]

BJB, I would assume that is correct - along with 5 years remaining on your passports and if you rent/lease, a contract showing 5 years remaining as well.

As an aside, I also hear - from where I can not remember - that the over 60's will be directed to a different web site (when it is brought to life) and not have to attend any police interview as everything will be completed on-line. I am not holding my breath on that but it is an obvious way to remove the current backlog in the Girne Police station and give it to another department - lol.

We will see, we live in a World of constant change so just go with the flow and let others know what is happening when and if it does please.

[benjaminbutton]

My point gates was, whether it was going to be like Driving Licence, you could chose the number of years you want, if you knew for a certainty you were not going to stay a full 5 years.

[waddo]

BJB, again just an assumption but I think the new over 60’s rule will simply allow you to apply more easily than before for the amount of time you wish, with a maximum of 5 years! The amount of time will depend upon many factors in any case and let’s say that the future planned sale of your property or a valid reason to have to leave would play a big factor on the time given?

[TheSaints]

I went in to immigration today to ask about the over 60 5 year exemption cert. They told me to go back 3 days before my residency expires no earlier. Take my passport, residency permit, muhktars letter, title deed and either proof of pension or current bank statement showing proof of funds. That is for application as a property owner.

[poppy++1]

Thank you The Saints now we are all aware how it’s going to work
Just a shame for us just applied we can’t pay the extra at immigration to extend to 5 years
Maybe something they’ll consider

[TheSaints]

They said they will post all of the information with regards to documents required outside their office door today.

[alphamike]

Excellent, thank you TheSaints.

[waddo]

It would be nice if the information for over 60’s high income was also published!

[13roman58]

I don,t think that it,s an exemption scheme.
Just to give over 60,s up to 5 years instead of going backwards and forwards.

[waddo]

Would anyone who goes to Immigration in the future please take a picture of the information with regards to documents required that will be published outside their office door today? It would save lots of people trudging back and forth in this heat. Many thanks if you can do that and can stick it on the forum!

[waddo]

Thanks again for posting the information, I have replied on another thread.

[13roman58]

I don,t think that it,s an exemption scheme.
Just to give over 60,s up to 5 years instead of going backwards and forwards.

On another thread
it is an exemption cert.
No insurance payment/residency payment/no of years left in passport.
Small fee ,massive saving,maybe the government has shot themselves in the financial foot.

[Mowgli597]

And it seems that this isn’t a “gentleman’s agreement” since it’s been passed into law?

[tutor4u]

https://www.facebook.com/groups/1476173132433149/

This is the content of the link : Guideline for the new Residency Exemption Regulation for over 60s...
Please note this document is provisional and may be changed in the next few weeks as more information becomes available.
The TFR is publishing this document to help to answer questions people are raising following publication of the headline changes. The new law published in the Resmi Gazete, however, following discussions with the Minister of the Interior we identified some areas which had not been considered for inclusion. These will be included when a further amendment to the existing law is published. This guidance is based on information obtained at meetings with the Minister of the Interior, the Manager of the Immigration Department and senior members of their staff...
Please download the document for your own use only...
For further questions please come to one of our weekly TFR-meetings, Fridays 15.00-17.00 at BlueSong in Lapta and Wednesdays 14.00-16.00 at Sultan´s in Catalköy.
NOTE: If you click on the document attached it will not open but automatically download it into your Download-Folder... you can open it from there!

https://www.facebook.com/download/98724 ... __tn__=H-R

[waddo]

Nope! It just takes me to a page that says "You don't have permissions". Guess you also have to be a facebook user to access this as well?

[tutor4u]

New Residency Procedure for Foreigners over 60 years of age
3rd July 2024

Please note this document is provisional and may be changed in the next few weeks as more information becomes available. The TFR is publishing this document to help to answer questions people are raising following publication of the Headline changes. The new law published in the Resmi Gazete, however, following discussions with the Minister of the Interior we identified some areas which had not been considered for inclusion. These will be included when a further amendment to the existing law is published.This guidance is based on information obtained at meetings with the Minister of the Interior, The Manager of the Immigration Department and senior members of their staff.

Initial Registration
Foreigners who are over 60 years old who come to the island and want to apply for residency, must go the Ikamet Office on the Ground Floor of the Interior Ministry in Lefkosa, before their current visa expires.
Applicants will be required to complete a paper form(see below) with registration details. It is planned to introduce an online version of the form in the future.
The form and documentation you will need to bring to the office to complete your registration, is listed below. Please note we have identified some issues with the document list and have raised with the Interior Ministry for clarification.
Once your form and documents are submitted, Immigration will process your application and issue you with an exemption from residency. This will either be a stamp in your passport or a form which you should keep with your passport.The exemptionpermit will be approved and issued on the day of registration.
Unlike the standard residency process there will be no facility to purchase State Emergency Health Insurance. The TFR will investigate with the Ministry of Health whether it will be possible to purchase State Emergency Health Insurance separately from your Residency Application.
Property Owners (Immovable Property Category)
5-year residency permits are available to the following people over 60 years old:
1. Property owners
2. People married to a property owner, who provide a marriage certificate, translated into either English or Turkish
3. People living with a property owner, who provide a single person status document from their home country, translated into English or Turkish – currently not available until the amendment to the law is published in the Resmi Gazete.
Note: if you are a co-habiting couple (point 3 above) and both your names are on the Title Deeds (Kocan) or Contract of Sale then you can be processed as individual property owners (point 1 above), provided you both provide bank accounts showing you meet the financial requirements.
If the property owner is less than 60 years old, but their partner or spouse is over 60 years old then they will still be able to obtain a 5-year residency permit. The property owner will need to continue with the standard residency process until they are 60 years old.
People who Rent Property (High Income Category)
We were advised by the Interior Minister and it was published in the Press that people over 60 years who are renting a property will be able to obtain a residency exemption permit for the duration of their rental/tenancy agreement. This option was not included in the Law Change of 14th June so is not available at the present time.
For example, if you have a 2-year tenancy agreement then you will be able to get a 2 year residency permit.
Rental residency permits are available to the following people over 60 years old:
• Named person on the Rental agreement
• People married to a Named person on the Rental agreement, who provide a marriage certificate, translated into either English or Turkish
• People living with a Named person on the Rental agreement, who provide a single person status document from their home country, translated into English or Turkish.
If the person named on the Rental/Tenancy agreement is less than 60 years old, but their partner or spouse is over60 years old then they will still be able to obtain a residency permit for the duration of their rental/tenancy agreement. The person named on the Rental/Tenancy agreement will need to continue with the standard residency process until they reach 60 years of age.
Form & Required Documents

Document Requirements
• Copy of passport photopage
• Muhtar’s letter (IkametBelgesi) – issued by your local muhtar with 7.9tl stamp attached.
• Title deeds for your property (Kocan) or Contract of sale with stamps showing that it has been registered at the land registry office and your permission to purchase (Council of Minister’s Application to obtain Title Deeds) reference details. If you purchased the property prior to 2022 this is a square of paper with a stamp and a reference number for your application. If you applied for permission to purchase after November 2022 then this will be an A4 sheet of paper with your reference number and a bar code.
o Note you must have paid > 1/3 of the purchase price, if you have not yet paid in full for your property
• Proof of Pension, either pension document or bank statements showing you receive a regular pension. If you do not receive a pension, then you may need to show you have some savings in a TRNC bank account.
• Marriage certificate if you are being sponsored by the Property owner or the Person named on the Rental/Tenancy agreement.
• Certificate of Population Registration Certificate (NufusKayıtı) Turkish citizens only
• Residency permit fee – 38.70tl stamp



Residency Renewal
If you already live on the island and have residency or have recently started the residency application/renewal process, you must continue with your current application. This applies to people living in the Girne region who applied for Residency in the Spring, and have their police appointment later in the year. There is no facility to cancel your existing appointment and apply via the new process.
You will be able to apply for the new 5-year residency exemption permit once your existing residency expires.
People who are over 60 years old, who rent a property and who have applied for a 1-year residency permit and have been issued with a 6-month residency permit, will be able to register for the longer-term residency permit at the end of their 6-months residency if they wish.
People in this situation, who have a 1-year rental/tenancy agreement may prefer to renew their residency through the current residency process, as under the current process to renew their residency for the extra 6 months, just requires a bank statement to be taken to the Immigration Office. At the end of the 1-year process, you can apply for the new residency permit with a new tenancy agreement.
People who wish to apply for the new 5-year residency permit may do so 1-2 weeks before their existing residency permit expires. The categories of who is eligible for a permit are as per the Initial Registration section above as is the documentation that you will be required to take to the Immigration Department.
Renewal of 5 Year / Longer term Residency Permit
We understand once this new process is in place, an online system will be provided. When you need to renew the over 60s residency exemption permit this will be a simplified online process. Details of requirements are not yet confirmed.

[tutor4u]

The form that was included in the Doc : - New Residency Procedure for Foreigners over 60 years of age

3rd July 2024

[Soner]

Form states 65 and over.

[benjaminbutton]

Glad you spotted that. According to a BRS Newsletter yesterday, one couple were granted their 5 years a couple of days ago from offices in Lefkosa.

[tutor4u]

Form states 65 and over.

I believe that use of this old form is an intrim measure until it goes on line.

[kerry 6138]

It also mentions rental agreement, currently the exemption is for home owners.

[alphamike]

I have a jpeg of list of documents required both in Turkish and English obtained by a friend from Lefkosa yesterday. I have long since forgotten how to insert on forum, but if anyone can help then can send it on for uploading by email.

[Keithcaley]

I have a jpeg of list of documents required both in Turkish and English obtained by a friend from Lefkosa yesterday. I have long since forgotten how to insert on forum, but if anyone can help then can send it on for uploading by email.

Hi, email it to keithcaley@yahoo.com & I'll post it for you.

[alphamike]

Thanks KC, will do.

Email sent.

[JoandJelly]

So are there 2 different options; a 5 year Residency permit that you pay for or a 5 year exemption that is FOC?

[waddo]

What about lease holders? Over 60 with 35 years remaining on lease - 35 year exemption, I don’t think so

[benjaminbutton]

So if I fall off my perch before the five years are out, I get away without paying anything. In the TRNC, I just can't believe that. !!!!!!

[waddo]

BJB, if you do - will you care or will you leave money for the Govt, to pay for it just in case? No reply needed really - lol. Being an honest and upright guy, I will leave the Govt exactly what they have given me - “Shrug” - lol. That seems to be the only answer to any question here - lol.

[kerry 6138]

So are there 2 different options; a 5 year Residency permit that you pay for or a 5 year exemption that is FOC?

The 5 year exemption certificate or two years residency seems to be the only options if you meet the criteria.

[waddo]

kerry 6138, It is all in a process of change and many parts such as - "We were advised by the Interior Minister and it was published in the Press that people over 60 years who are renting a property will be able to obtain a residency exemption permit for the duration of their rental/tenancy agreement. This option was not included in the Law Change of 14th June so is not available at the present time." - are still being updated by inclusion within the Resmi Gazete.

Everyday is a new day whilst change happens but it appears obvious that both property owners and renters who are over 60 years of age and are applying for what was Temporary Residency Renewal are being offered either a 5 year residency exemption for the property owner OR a residency exemption equivalent to the remaining duration of their rental/tenancy agreement! I doubt that the exemption based on remaining duration of rental/tenancy agreement would exceed 5 years - but you never know!

Which ever you apply for, be it property owner or rental/tenancy, they are both Exemptions to residency provided you meet the other criteria.

All will become plain one day but there are bound to be some bumps in the road along the way - I expect September will bring bumps in my road but such is life.

[Keithcaley]

I have a jpeg of list of documents required both in Turkish and English obtained by a friend from Lefkosa yesterday. I have long since forgotten how to insert on forum, but if anyone can help then can send it on for uploading by email.

[alphamike]

Thanks KC, much appreciated.

[d1cxx]

I think this may be a stupid question, but here goes anyway. Is it correct that if I already have the Kocan, I don't need to produce the PTP document?

[gates]

Yes you do

[TAC]

no you don't as you wouldn't have a Kocan unless you paid for your PTP

[mrsgee]

Yes you do

No you don't, as someone else said you wouldn't get your kocan if your ptp had not been approved.

[waddo]

But do immigration know that or will they ask for it anyway? I think that is probably what is being asked!

[gates]

I was told that i needed ptp stamp even though I had my kocon for 20 odd years. So who right who wrong. Going to take the chance and Que up for hours just to be told go and get it?

[alphamike]

Exactly Gates. Better being prepared and taking too much paperwork, rather than too little.

[benjaminbutton]

If I've read all of the blurb correctly, and I probably haven't, do I understand that you have to have five years left on your UK passport as well and if you haven't, then don't bother applying for the five year exemption.

[alphamike]

I have no idea of the passport situation. Think we will just have to wait and see what comes back from people who are issued it. Not for me this time, still under the old system and waiting to see how long I get.

[come_on_aylin]

If I've read all of the blurb correctly, and I probably haven't, do I understand that you have to have five years left on your UK passport as well and if you haven't, then don't bother applying for the five year exemption.

Someone with 3 years left on their passport was given the 5 year exemption stamp. See below

"One of our passport has only 3 years validity, but we were given 5 years anyway.
Once get new passport need to come to ministry and they put the exemption in the new passport, only the 38 ttl stamp will be needed"

[alphamike]

Thank you CoA, a bit of good news there.

[benjaminbutton]

Thanks one tiny bit of hope. Only three more the go. I was officially informed yesterday I cannot obtain P o A for my husband re the property, until and unless we obtain parcelsation and then full Title Deeds.

[poppy++1]

Now an issue with heath insurance for 5 years.
Seems if old insurance has elapsed, and you need treatment at state hospital.. you will have to pay as no longer covered.

Once problem with payment is resolved you could be paying 5 years in one go.

All rushed through and no thought for health payment, surly that was a necessity … I’m sure it will be rectified soon.
In meantime all stay well and safe

[alphamike]

Am so sorry BB. This whole new property and tax law is causing major issues for so many people. Another thing that has been rushed through without considering the consequences. I keep hearing rumours that changes will be made, but nothing so far to alleviate our worries.

Thanks Poppy. I did wonder about health insurance. I remember something from a while back re health insurance, in not being able to pay for more than 2 years, and that's why the max resident permit was 2 years. We shall just have to wait and see what they come up with.

[gates]

The thing is i would willing pay extra money for any of it. But if you can’t just get 2 years please don’t muck it up for those people that are quite happy to go along with government regulations and not keep moaning about it just go for the 2 years. . If you can’t afford a rolls you buy a mini same in all types of life

[alphamike]

Gates, I am not too fussed whether I have to pay in 1, 2 or 5 year installments. Think we will just have to wait and see what happens. Don't think anyone is complaining, it's just concern at not being covered, and hoping at the same time, we don't have to use it.