Solar off grid
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- Kibkommer
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Solar off grid
Hi everyone,
I am looking to have a solar off grid system installed, has anyone had one done within the last year.
Does anyone know of a installer who can fit one, or a supplier/installer.
The panels will be going on my roof not on the ground.
Thanks for any help.
I am looking to have a solar off grid system installed, has anyone had one done within the last year.
Does anyone know of a installer who can fit one, or a supplier/installer.
The panels will be going on my roof not on the ground.
Thanks for any help.
I'm leaving now to go find myself....if I arrive before I get back, please ask me to wait!
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- Kibkommer
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Re: Solar off grid
try FAB Ltd 0392 2281690 They did ours and others in our area and we are all very happy with them. Good workers and very clean. English no problem Ask for Zarah. email info@fabltd.com. They take care of all required paperwork for you. Good luck.. Best thing we have ever had done to the house.
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- Kibkommer
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Re: Solar off grid
adirekoglu@elitrasolar.com
Contact Alp, did ours. Applied for all necessary paperwork and permissions, arranged everything we needed, speaks perfect English
Workers clean and efficient
Regret not doing it sooner
Contact Alp, did ours. Applied for all necessary paperwork and permissions, arranged everything we needed, speaks perfect English
Workers clean and efficient
Regret not doing it sooner
- Keithcaley
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Re: Solar off grid
Tanky & poppy - I don't think that you need any paperwork for an 'Off-Grid' system, which is what TAC was asking about...
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- Kibkommer
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Re: Solar off grid
Thanks everyone but yes Keith is right no paper work needed for a off grid system
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- Kibkommer
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Re: Solar off grid
Tanky , I'm asking for a friend. She wants to know how many KW is your solar set up, how much was it if you don't mind revealing that and did you need to pay any money up front? She is currently dealing with another company and wants a comparison. Thank you
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- Kibkommer
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Re: Solar off grid
Hi Jane M. My system is 5KVA. At the time, and that was 5 to 6 years ago so much expensive more now, it was approx 4k. I had to pay a small deposit. Just phone Fab Ltd speak to Zarah perfect English and very very helpful. She would give you an approx quote. Please remember all sites are different for an installations. Some installations can go directly on to roofs where some may require a frame. Also please remember if you have a generator you need to tell them and this requires a cable to be run from the genny to the box. Also take in mind the main inverter as these come in at both high and low prices. Mine is fronius. I am very happy with my system. I was extremely happy with the workers and the overall installation.
I do not think you can have 5Kva now however as I say phone Fab and ask away.
I do not think you can have 5Kva now however as I say phone Fab and ask away.
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Re: Solar off grid
many people do ask for "off grid solar power". not all mean the same.
the "classic" off-grid meaning is that the (solar) system is not connected to the grid. it neither takes power from the grid, nor it gives power to the grid.
for your understanding: a "home genny" is also an off-grid system, it neither takes or gives elelctricity to the Kibtek grid and is mainly used to supply electricity to a home (not to kibtek) as a "back up function" in case of power cuts.
a genny needs to be installed correctly , eg, with a grid isolator not to give power to the kibtek grid, eg, a "change over" is installed.
systems with solar panels and an inverter (Fronius, Huawei, SMA, whatever), connected to the KIBTEK grid, are not "off grid" they are "on grid".
many who install on grid systems now offer "off grid" as well. but:
off grid systems need a good planning, as 1. the all over consumption, 2. the (365) daily consumption, 3. the hourly consumption and the "peak consumption" (meaning: what do i want to run at same time, are motors kicking in? ) must be taken into consideration.
the solar power, the battery inverter, the accumulator size must be calculated correctly and must correspond = there must be a "balance" of the installed equipment. eg, you can not install a 10 kVA inverter to a 12 V 100 Ah battery.
many agree to a system which is "mainly off grid" , but.. if sun is not sufficient, the system "goes to grid" and supplies power to your home.
you could call this an " (off grid) selfconsumption system with grid back up".
reason: to cover the (some)times of low sun and/or high needs as well, you have to install much more solar power, a much bigger inverter and a much bigger accumulator bank. real off grid can be expensive.
these systems are "grid connected", it takes power from Kibtek.
Kibtek does not want that any kind of "energy systems" are directly or indirectly connected to the grid. so, if you want such a system, you should check whether you need a permission or not.
many of the above mentioned installers now offer "of the shelf" and /or "plug and play" products, because basically they have no clue how to design such a system. solar panels purchased from A, a cheap inverter from alibaba, an accu bank from B.... permission not needed (often not true), software: default settings... and here we go.
note: many selfconsumption solutions for "other countries" , as UK, Germany (, China, US) are not ok for the needs in NCyprus. sometimes they are illegal as well, eg, because they give excess energy to the grid, totally illegal here.
or, eg, the inverter has an output of max 5 kVA.. but can not stand any small peak above it.
yes, chinese solar panels, chinese on grid -, off grid-, hybrid inverters, chinese batteries.... not all is bad what comes from china. but they sometimes exaggerate. really cheap stuff sold for too much.
an off grid or selfconsumption system needs to work 24/7. in 15 years you come to 130.000 working hours, longer as the lifetime of a LED lamp.
check yourself which companies are leaders for bigger off grid- incl programmable, free designable self consumption systems... and you will see the same old ones, eg, Victronenergy, Outbackpower, SMA...
if somebody wants to compare prices without telling what was planned or what is going to be installed, is sort of useless, or?
the classic "off grid comparison" would ask for the installed equipment for all items (manufacturer) , yes, but, of course, also:
- solar power in Wp
- (battery connected) inverter nominal power in KW or kVA, inc the continous power output @ 25 and 40 degrees (!) and avaibility for peak power.
- accumulator bank capacity in kWh and the technology, eg, flooded lead acid, GEL, AGM or (any kind of) li-ion.
and.. you need somebody who can read, interprete and (maybe even) explain a datasheet. for comparison.
as many have already solar on-grid systems but it does not cover all of the needs, or, others who just want to reduce their bills without having the hassle to apply for permission and even for those whos off grid system can not make motors run... :
take in consideration that "another" off grid system might become famous again: the solar pool pumping system.
call Alp.
the "classic" off-grid meaning is that the (solar) system is not connected to the grid. it neither takes power from the grid, nor it gives power to the grid.
for your understanding: a "home genny" is also an off-grid system, it neither takes or gives elelctricity to the Kibtek grid and is mainly used to supply electricity to a home (not to kibtek) as a "back up function" in case of power cuts.
a genny needs to be installed correctly , eg, with a grid isolator not to give power to the kibtek grid, eg, a "change over" is installed.
systems with solar panels and an inverter (Fronius, Huawei, SMA, whatever), connected to the KIBTEK grid, are not "off grid" they are "on grid".
many who install on grid systems now offer "off grid" as well. but:
off grid systems need a good planning, as 1. the all over consumption, 2. the (365) daily consumption, 3. the hourly consumption and the "peak consumption" (meaning: what do i want to run at same time, are motors kicking in? ) must be taken into consideration.
the solar power, the battery inverter, the accumulator size must be calculated correctly and must correspond = there must be a "balance" of the installed equipment. eg, you can not install a 10 kVA inverter to a 12 V 100 Ah battery.
many agree to a system which is "mainly off grid" , but.. if sun is not sufficient, the system "goes to grid" and supplies power to your home.
you could call this an " (off grid) selfconsumption system with grid back up".
reason: to cover the (some)times of low sun and/or high needs as well, you have to install much more solar power, a much bigger inverter and a much bigger accumulator bank. real off grid can be expensive.
these systems are "grid connected", it takes power from Kibtek.
Kibtek does not want that any kind of "energy systems" are directly or indirectly connected to the grid. so, if you want such a system, you should check whether you need a permission or not.
many of the above mentioned installers now offer "of the shelf" and /or "plug and play" products, because basically they have no clue how to design such a system. solar panels purchased from A, a cheap inverter from alibaba, an accu bank from B.... permission not needed (often not true), software: default settings... and here we go.
note: many selfconsumption solutions for "other countries" , as UK, Germany (, China, US) are not ok for the needs in NCyprus. sometimes they are illegal as well, eg, because they give excess energy to the grid, totally illegal here.
or, eg, the inverter has an output of max 5 kVA.. but can not stand any small peak above it.
yes, chinese solar panels, chinese on grid -, off grid-, hybrid inverters, chinese batteries.... not all is bad what comes from china. but they sometimes exaggerate. really cheap stuff sold for too much.
an off grid or selfconsumption system needs to work 24/7. in 15 years you come to 130.000 working hours, longer as the lifetime of a LED lamp.
check yourself which companies are leaders for bigger off grid- incl programmable, free designable self consumption systems... and you will see the same old ones, eg, Victronenergy, Outbackpower, SMA...
if somebody wants to compare prices without telling what was planned or what is going to be installed, is sort of useless, or?
the classic "off grid comparison" would ask for the installed equipment for all items (manufacturer) , yes, but, of course, also:
- solar power in Wp
- (battery connected) inverter nominal power in KW or kVA, inc the continous power output @ 25 and 40 degrees (!) and avaibility for peak power.
- accumulator bank capacity in kWh and the technology, eg, flooded lead acid, GEL, AGM or (any kind of) li-ion.
and.. you need somebody who can read, interprete and (maybe even) explain a datasheet. for comparison.
as many have already solar on-grid systems but it does not cover all of the needs, or, others who just want to reduce their bills without having the hassle to apply for permission and even for those whos off grid system can not make motors run... :
take in consideration that "another" off grid system might become famous again: the solar pool pumping system.
call Alp.