Casino charge

[Stevechips]

Can anyone confirm or deny a rumour going around that the M. casinos require 5000tl of credit on your players card before you are allowed into the buffet/ restaurant, has anyone been to the casino in the last few days ?

[Reyntj]

It use to be 1500 tl..
No such thing as a free lunch...
Would not surprise me

[EnjoyingTheSun]

Seems a silly rule as having £100 on your card doesn’t mean you have any intention of gambling it. The casinos out here are stuck in the 80s where ‘show money’ rather than turnover (which they don’t understand) is all. They should watch the million pound note and see if they can join the dots

[Dalartokat]

Sounds like someone has been going into a Casino and not playing but using the facilities of a free/reduced meal. The card that’s registered is checked for transactions and you are watched also to see if your playing and everything is based on that and eventually they will stop you going into the restaurants. Maybe, if it’s true they want an amount of money on the card before entry, its just making sure one has the money for the food that’s consumed. As pointed out, no free lunch, Casinos are not Charities. It’s a 2 way thing you spend, they spend. Those that do spend are the ones that get the perks.

[Reyntj]

Actually you do have to gamble it. So the rule in merit use to be you put 1500 tl on a card and they gave you a lunch ticket but you couldnt withdraw the money until you had gambled 1500 tl in spins.

[EnjoyingTheSun]

Actually you do have to gamble it. So the rule in merit use to be you put 1500 tl on a card and they gave you a lunch ticket but you couldnt withdraw the money until you had gambled 1500 tl in spins.

Glad to hear they are working off turnover now. Not sure what the casino hold on slots is out here I’d guess 4% to 8% so if you don’t play silly and just run the 1500TL through, on average you’ll lose 120TL so £2.30 for a buffet isn’t a bad deal I guess. Obviously you can do the lot in cold blood but you can also win but on average you’ll lose 8% I’d guess depending on what the machine is set at

[Reyntj]

Yes id figured out something similar but the casino know that people get hooked and take that loss...one things for sure they know all the stats and probabilities .

I stopped going the casino because im on a diet and id eat too much to play the system...

But also the minimum stakes have gone up so you use to be able to go have a meal coffees drinks fruit plates etc stay an hour or 2 and not lose too much maybe even win..

[EnjoyingTheSun]

..one things for sure they know all the stats and probabilities .

Worldwide obviously casinos do, but out here you’d be very surprised

[Soner]

..one things for sure they know all the stats and probabilities .

Worldwide obviously casinos do, but out here you’d be very surprised

They do. When cashing out one day, the manager at the roulette table knew exactly how many chips I had in my hand.

[EnjoyingTheSun]

They do. When cashing out one day, the manager at the roulette table knew exactly how many chips I had in my hand.

Really not the same thing. If you want to actually test him on casino mathematics, ask him what your theoretical loss would be on roulette if you played for 3 hours at an average bet of $100 per spin

[benjaminbutton]

If you want the truth, never ask a person a question that you don't already know the answer. So me asking the Manager would be a total dead loss!!!.

[Reyntj]

Ridiculous question. There are 100s of permutations to play $100 per spin with different probabilities..beyond that only a genius could calculate...

Dont see your point...why would the croupier need to know that or the manager..they do keep a running count of players chip position ...not in their head they have a screen they put all the info into.

Oh i forgot its ets....i did have you on filter due to the endless arguments you make that you call a challenge of wits...no thanks

[EnjoyingTheSun]

Ridiculous question. There are 100s of permutations to play $100 per spin with different probabilities..beyond that only a genius could calculate...

It’s not a ridiculous question if you know what you are talking about and one of us does. I’ll give you a clue it isn’t you
There are 100s of different ways of putting on your bets but the house edge or probability if you prefer is constant. It’s like tossing a coin, there are1000 places or permutations where the coin could land on the floor but the probability of the result is exactly the same.

Dont see your point...why would the croupier need to know that or the manager..they do keep a running count of players chip position ...not in their head they have a screen they put all the info into.

The croupier doesn’t need to know but the manager should because it’s essentially how the casino makes their money.

Ok here’s an easy one which again will stump 99% of the casino managers over here but anyone with a working knowledge of maths should be able to work out.
The house edge of single zero roulette is 2.7,
or probability as you wrongly put it, how do you prove it?

[EnjoyingTheSun]

If you want the truth, never ask a person a question that you don't already know the answer. So me asking the Manager would be a total dead loss!!!.

Working on 30 spins an hour the answer is $243. The games are painfully slow out here so it’ll be nearer 22 spins per hour so it’ll be $178
Again it’s the theoretical loss, the actual loss could be $9000 or you could win $10,000 but casinos should calculate comps based on theoretical loss.

[EnjoyingTheSun]

Oh i forgot its ets....i did have you on filter due to the endless arguments you make that you call a challenge of wits...no thanks

Oh isn't this the guy who thought TRNC was going to become the new Monte Carlo? How’s that working out?
You had me on filter to continue in your echo chamber, I don’t challenge anyone unarmed.
If you want me to explain casino theoretical loss to you, just ask, you’ll learn something

[Reyntj]

Re filtered no interest in your rambling endless pointless arguments jumping from one subject to another.

[EnjoyingTheSun]

Re filtered no interest in your rambling endless pointless arguments jumping from one subject to another.

Same subject but as you know zero about that subject then I wouldn’t expect you to pick up on that tbh
If you want to google either casino complimentaries or theoretical loss you’ll then realise what an idiot you made of yourself with your bluffers comment of
“Ridiculous question. There are 100s of permutations to play $100 per spin with different probabilities..beyond that only a genius could calculate...”

[jofra]

Oh i forgot its ets....i did have you on filter due to the endless arguments you make that you call a challenge of wits...no thanks

[Hellsbells]

We visited the Merit Royal casino in the last few days. We were told we couldn't enter the restaurant unless we had 1,000tl on our cards. We topped up our cards but when we went back to enter the restaurant the girl on the desk kept showing us another type of card with some type of food symbol on it. We couldn't understand what she was trying to tell us (maybe we needed a different type of card?) but I think she got fed up of explaining & let us in. Some friends told us that we would have been able to retrieve the 1,000tl by cashing out but of course we gambled it (& lost!).

[EnjoyingTheSun]

Like I said don’t believe me, Google theoretical loss and learn something.

[Reyntj]

Yes that right they give you a food voucher at the pit when you put the required amount on your card. In merit cyprus gardens in november that was 1400 tl. But you have to ask for the voucher. then you can only cash out once you have wagered it once. Thats the protocol there. Most players are gambling a lot more & dont need the voucher exactly what the threshold is i dont know but they check the screen for each player. It might be different than 1400 tl as i heard them say that was a promotion. Might differ in different merits.