PV solar system permission

[kibsolar1999]

here some info about the need for permissions / application to energy ministry - Kibtek.

All home owners who have a single or 3- phase 240/420 Volt AC connection to the mains (= electric meter from kibtek) and wants to install a PV solar system which produces AC power (eg from an inverter), needs a permission. without our with batteries does not matter.
two kind of systems are available.
1. the classic excess power grid feed / net metering with no batteries and the known "credit system"
2. the so called "selfconsumption" (öztüketim) system
these systems works on their own until, eg, batteries are down and the kibtek grid kicks in for support.
those are often declared to be an "off grid" system which does not need permission and could be installed "tomorrow" (quick money compared to "endless waiting").

but, a "classic off grid" system has no mains (kibtek) connection. only those systems are in a sort of grey zone. they theoretically need also a permission (as they produce AC power), but the "possible fine", the disconnection of the mains kibtek meter for illegally installing a solar power system, obviously can not apply.
so, any problems with installation method 2. which might occur later will be your problem and not the installers (and so called " solar expert").

there might be possibilities to install 2. without a permission, but definitely not with the cheap and often used so called "hybrit inverters".
that has something to do with the "working principle" of hybrit inverters and the related cabelling.

an installation which also works from PV but does not need a permission are solar runned well- and pool pumps, as they are not connected to the grid and produce no AC.

for more info call Alp, on 05338783368

[Pamuklu Blue]

Could a PV system be installed without permission if it just fed a separate circuit for AC? Also, have you seen these 800watt plug in systems with a micro inverter that you just plug into a socket?

[kibsolar1999]

Could a PV system be installed without permission if it just fed a separate circuit for AC? Also, have you seen these 800watt plug in systems with a micro inverter that you just plug into a socket?

1st question
what you are asking is an PV solar off grid system and an electric / cable installation which you can manually switch to grid and back if necessary.
that actually is not 100% clear.
on the one hand this can not be "real meant to be illegal" as any small one panel, 200 W system would be illegal, even if there is no kibtek connection possible. (eg, a small system which runs your fridge and others)
on the other hand.. kibtek does not "trust" the installers here in cyprus much = possible improper installations with possible grid feed involved, especially when the "seperate circuit" means "all of the house" and you install 30 panels and a big inverter...
sure is, those systems should be "really properly seperated" from the kibtek network. this is not possible with those hybrit inverters often used.
ok, it is possible.. but hybrit inverters are not "proper off grid" inverters.
this is mostly stated "hidden somehwhere" in the manuals or sometimes as an "extra tech info".
2nd question
thats a classic "on grid guerilla system". not permitted. reason: they work "grid parallel". so, it could be that the situation might apply that there is (even a little only) excess which would feed the grid. grid feed with no permission is not permitted.
should be made legal. eg, max 800 W inverter output in germany, 1000W in the netherlands... aso.
but, same here, kibtek does not trust the people , customers or installers: first year 1 panel 1 inverter, 2nd year "update" to 5 panels 5 inverters.

[Pamuklu Blue]

Thanks for the reply. I was talking about a totally separate ring main that would only work during daylight hours unless batteries were added, Totally separate from Kibtek supply with no switching, like a pool pump supply.

[kibsolar1999]

Thanks for the reply. I was talking about a totally separate ring main that would only work during daylight hours unless batteries were added, Totally separate from Kibtek supply with no switching, like a pool pump supply.

even during daylight / sun , (off grid) AC systems do not work without batteries.

most (eg, Lorentz) solar (pool) pumps work with 1 phase DC in (from solar panels) and 3 phase DC output (to pump).

[Pamuklu Blue]

Ok thanks