Parking at Mr Pound- Girne

puppylover · Post by **puppylover** » Fri 03 May 2013 8:25 am

For info!

The car park for Mr Pound is now charging 3TL.

Marions · Post by **Marions** » Fri 03 May 2013 8:27 am

Wot!!!!!!! Well they have just lost my custom. Unless I can park somewhere nearby as my husband can't walk that far anyway. But that is the pits. Maybe if someone asked him for the justificaton it owuld help. Or are there people parkiong there who are nothing to do with Mr Pound. Maybe they should have a system the same as some U.K stores, and that is if one spends a certain amount of money the fee is given back. Maybe i will go and suggest that. What do others think.

But that is absolutely appalling.

Post by **Soner** » Fri 03 May 2013 8:32 am

3TL? That's just over a Pound Sterling. That can't be right, he'll need to change the name to "Mr just over a Pound".

PoshinDevon · Post by **PoshinDevon** » Fri 03 May 2013 8:43 am

Have to say when I visit Mr Pound the car park is nearly always full...usually with trucks, vans etc which I presume are either just parked up or are linked to other businesses close by. They are not all shopping in Mr Pound!

Does Mr Pound own all the rough parking area at the back....I wonder? Or just a bit of ground? I know dont go down that road.

Think if 3TL is charged then it should be refunded if you spend in the shop.

We will park elsewhere and take a walk - exercise will do us good, but understand that for some this is not an option.

puppylover · Post by **puppylover** » Fri 03 May 2013 8:51 am

The car park has been recently tarmaced and parking bays put in.

I agree Marion. If you purchase items in Mr Pound your receipt should make you exempt from paying a fee to park and those that use it as a car park for other purposes should pay.

A friend of mine went this morning and there were people complaining and a lot of shouting going on.

Yes Soner, it is a lot of money especially for the locals who take their kids in to buy a 4TL toy.

Can forsee problems when people start parking along the road to avoid parking in Mr Pound.

cyprusishome · Post by **cyprusishome** » Fri 03 May 2013 9:12 am

We were there early in week and manager explained that you would get some sort of voucher or stamped receipt to cover parking.
He was not a happy bunny because this was being imposed by the land lord and realized that problems would happen. We often just call in on spec and do not always buy, this will stop that and the potential for sales.

This is not brought about by Mr Pound but they are the ones going to suffer by yet another failure of borrowing the brain cell.

sophie · Post by **sophie** » Fri 03 May 2013 11:25 am

To be fair, the land to the rear of Mr Pound is not and has never been owned by Mr. Pound, we just called it that!!. Now it has been tarmaced and painted so that at least you can come and go without some idiot blocking all the exits. On top of which there is now a proper In and Out, so no more backing up to let someone in. Yesterday it was bedlam and some people (and if they read this, then I think your behaviour was awful) kicked up a stink and the Manager was trying to arrange it so that if you were in the shop for less than 10 mins and bought something, he was picking up peoples ticket price. However if you only buy one thing then it was financially ruinous. They are trying to regularise the situation as are the local bank, butcher and cafe (as i understand it) I do think though the 3tl for 2 hours is stiff, but its not Mr Pounds land. BTW, today the carpark was virtually empty and the side roads on the opposite side of the main road were absolute chocker!!

suehowlittle · Post by **suehowlittle** » Fri 03 May 2013 3:44 pm

Perhaps Mr Pound will now take his business to somewhere else, the greedy landlord will ruin his business otherwise.

Will not go there now, ridiculous charge but I do understand that Mr Pound does not have control of the whole carpark.

elizabeth · Post by **elizabeth** » Fri 03 May 2013 4:11 pm

suehowlittle wrote:Perhaps Mr Pound will now take his business to somewhere else, the greedy landlord will ruin his business otherwise.

Will not go there now, ridiculous charge but I do understand that Mr Pound does not have control of the whole carpark.

Oh for goodness sake, it's 3TL, just over a pound for two hours parking, it cost me more than that for the x ray when I twisted my ankle on the rough uneven surface that they had before.

Business here has a hard enough time and often it's through no fault of their own that things go wrong, in fairness to Mr Pound I feel they provide a good service at a reasonable price, many things are cheaper there that in any of the supermarkets.

Things are changing in TRNC, and not always for the better, but by the same token we should remember that the days of something for nothing are long gone.

The Dog Walker · Post by **The Dog Walker** » Fri 03 May 2013 4:15 pm

This will also affect the ATM users at the nearby bank, who often visit Mr. Pound, the chemist and the local restaurant while down there. One TLwouldn't have been too bad, but 3 TL is ridiculous!

Post by **Soner** » Fri 03 May 2013 4:21 pm

Sad to see things like parking in TRNC are on the change, especially when the population is so small. Parking has become a real earner in London and I believe it will become a lot worse in the years to come. I remember that when in Hong Kong 25 years ago, people were selling single parking spaces for £35,000. This has become "one crazy World".

pippie · Post by **pippie** » Fri 03 May 2013 5:00 pm

Actually it's 3TL for the first 2 hours and after that 1TL each hour. So it makes your Mr. Pound shopping experience quite expensive when Mr. Pound items are already £1.43 each.

There is a maximum but I didn't stay long enough to read the whole price list, I was too frustrated after I had driven down to be told at the bottom of the hill by a guy with half a smile that I had to pay. I drove straight around the other side and back out and parked up a side road from the Mercedes place. When I asked the manager inside he was obviously annoyed. He said it's killing his trade, and the shop was half empty. He also said that if they continue with the charges Mr. Pound will have to look for alternative premises.

I don't know who is parking there but when I drove around there was just 4 cars there!

Marions · Post by **Marions** » Fri 03 May 2013 5:24 pm

E,lizabeth, whilst 3tl may seem nothing compared to say London where it can be £25 for a day, we are talkn g of going to the Pound shop, where people go to save money and maybe there 15 minutes or even less if they go for one item. I know one inevitably gets more, but nevertheless, paying 3tl to buy an item for 4tl is out of all proportion. One can appreciate that it is just another greedy landlord that has done this, but it reminds me of the parking in Lefkosia next to the mosque. First of all it was free, then 1tl and now 5tl, and if one is popping into the Market to buy a couple of things and then move on, not good. so, I know where the freebie places are, but not everyone does. But as far as Mr Pounds and the other shops ic concerne,d it is not fair to the shop keepers on the other side of the road that they are used for parking.
Hopefully someone will sort this out, and I do wish the very best to Mr Pound hwo has brought a very special kind of shopping to North Cyprus (we had similar in Australia called King Kong! Maybe he could find a better premises with forecourt parking, but then could he keep his prices down. What a shame that there are greedy landowners. Of ocurse they maycome unstuck for as it kills the trade of those few shops, it will also kill the trade of his car park.

Oh and by the way, walking to the shop is fine, bvut if you have young children and then three or four carrier bags, life becomes verydifficult to walk back to the car, wherever it may be.

short sighted, thoughtless and hardly in keeping with the 'friendliness' for which this place is reputed (or was in the past)

corona24 · Post by **corona24** » Fri 03 May 2013 6:05 pm

geeeeeez! another charge on something that shouldn't be charged. If they have to charge then it should be returned when the customer goes back to the car with their receipt as proof they shopped at Mr. Pound. Regardless the amount on the receipt.
On another note: PARKING GARAGES!!!!! meaning Levels. not 1 plot of dirt that is called a parking lot and you have to pay. There should be a parking garage near the 2 busiest areas of downtown where there are a lot of the shopping stores (around Mr. pound, and clothing stores area) and another downtown somewhere. I think if that happens a lot of the roads will be clean of cars parking in the street(s). Parking in the streets or having to walk far with a youngster is dangerous and also difficult. I love going to Mr. Pound for the cheap prices and finding the things I need. (wish there were more near by). I have a feeling when I tell my driver you have to pay to park in pound, he is not going to be happy.

Maisiemoo · Post by **Maisiemoo** » Fri 03 May 2013 6:56 pm

Similar thing happened at my local Sainsburys in the UK. The car park was owned by the local council who had it managed by a private compnay. It was fine when the charge was 50p for an hour but then it went up to £1.50. Sainsburys and other local shops were slaughtered and the car park was empty. There were several meetings but in the end it was Sainsburys who had to take the hit and pay for people's parking if they spent over £10. Trade has not recovered and from being almost impossible to get a space on a Saturday morning you can now drive straight in. Why do people have to be so greedy and not see the harm they are doing to others trade?

squashmad · Post by **squashmad** » Sat 04 May 2013 5:18 am

I asked the manager of Mr Pound about the car parking charge and he said it is not up to Mr Pound but the landlord therefore it is out of their control however, having said that he did say they are trying to resolve this problem as he is aware that it will ruin the trade for his shop.

Expecting money back on a car park ticket would be unfair as the only person to benefit would still be the landlord, if the land was owned by Mr Pound then this would be an acceptable practice.

Not sure whether he was just being flippant but he did say 'we may even have to move the shop'

Who knows, I hope he can do something about it for their sake.

Royalcorpsoftranspor · Post by **Royalcorpsoftranspor** » Sat 04 May 2013 6:10 am

Soner wrote:Sad to see things like parking in TRNC are on the change, especially when the population is so small. Parking has become a real earner in London and I believe it will become a lot worse in the years to come. I remember that when in Hong Kong 25 years ago, people were selling single parking spaces for £35,000. This has become "one crazy World".

Remember that in Hong Kong Soner very well I was there for 3 years.

sophie · Post by **sophie** » Sat 04 May 2013 7:37 am

I'm always at a loss to understand why people come up with "In London/Birmingham.Liverpool, it costs such and such so think yourselves lucky" WE'RE NOT in the UK, so that point of view is irrelevant isn't it? The municipal car parks are 3tl for far longer than 2hours, and its always annoyed me that when we pay to park a car at Bellapais we told on the ticket we're donating to some Football Club or other!!

Re parking spaces for £35,000. I understand a single garage near central London went for over £200,000 last year!!

Marions · Post by **Marions** » Sat 04 May 2013 7:50 am

whilst it is true that comparisons are odious, it is also true that many peo;le here are living on a low income - pensions, minimum wage etc, and are GLAD they are not in other places where they could not afford the parking. It therefore hurts hard when parking fees are imposed. I have had topay 4tl in a car park in the High Street when all I wanted was 10 minutes to pop to a shop.

It is also grossly unfair when someone is trying to run a business with low cost goods to have it ruined by a greedy landlord who has probably got more than enough money to liv e on. Also, of course i guess there could be an element of not being able to build on the ground and make money, or sell it and make money, so he wants it to weork for him/her. It might have been kind to consult the business and ask how it will affect them, because they just might find other premises from which to run their businesses, and then the landlords will have a load of empty shops. Short sighted, and again NOT servng the community. ##And I repat that 3tl is a LOT for people on minimum wage, especially when they may be visiting a shop for one item.

I certainly will not go to Mr Pound as I used to, and I feel badly about it because it is a good shop, with fair prices and good service, and the greeddy landlord is being totally selfish and thoughtless (and I mean that - every word!) because it affects all the business and premises around in different ways.

Post by **Soner** » Sat 04 May 2013 7:50 am

Sophie, you have to look at it as the "only 3tl charge" is just the start of things to come. Prefer it in Gecitkale, it will be a long time before anyone tries to charge for parking.

cyprusishome · Post by **cyprusishome** » Sat 04 May 2013 8:23 am

I could go along with charges if it was value for money ie you were doing 2 hours shopping or whatever. Everybody, obviously including the land owner, realize that most people are using the parking space for several minutes. I do not, nor will not, pay 3tl to purchase an item that only cost 4 tl. Nor will I pay to use the ATM.

It is stupid as others have said to make comparisons with anywhere else. This is the top end of Girne in North Cyprus.

I am 100% certain that if these charges are not done away with the land owner will not only loose his money that he spent on making the car park but will loose his clients who rent properties, primarily Mr Pound and possibly the butcher. The customers who use the shops go there for value for money not to be ripped off by a Rachman like attitude.

Mr Pound has a well established customer base who will support at the current location in any way they can and I am sure that if, and it would not be difficult, they found a fresh location.

In future if we need to go to Mr Pound we will park on the wasteland near apartment blocks and behind the computer shop and walk the extra few yards. May be others who are able will do so to keep Mr Pound in business despite the land owning crook.

carrierbag · Post by **carrierbag** » Sat 04 May 2013 9:01 am

I used this car part on Thursday and paid TL2 only?????????????

scarlets · Post by **scarlets** » Sat 04 May 2013 9:57 am

I thought the land was owned by the people who have the butchers and the restaurant. We have in the past popped in quickly when passing but upon reflection there are not many things cheaper than elsewhere. Good luck to them, there will only be one loser

ozonkoyboy · Post by **ozonkoyboy** » Sat 04 May 2013 1:00 pm

Maybe if he charged 3TL but you got it back if you shopped there by producing the ticket at the checkout
I people are parking there and not using his shop i can see why

puppylover · Post by **puppylover** » Sat 04 May 2013 3:24 pm

Update!

I spoke to the guy who runs Mr Pound today and he has asked me to post that there was no consultation with any of the shop owners in that particular parade in regards to the charging of the car park.

He understands that people are not happy (nor is he!) and they are trying to resolve the problem.

For the time being any customer who wants to shop in Mr Pound are to tell the parking attendant they they are to going to Mr Pound and he will allow you 20 minutes free parking.
They are hoping to negotiate 45 minutes.

He states that should you have any problems, don't pay and tell the attendant to come and speak to him and he will deal with it.

Marions · Post by **Marions** » Sat 04 May 2013 5:16 pm

well that is a good start of compromise. I was going to pop intoday but nowhere to park!!!! i wanted tos ee the owner, bu t maybe I can catch him tomorrow. at least the owner of Mr Pound has a lot of people on his side which should help him negotiate. he deserves to have some perks.It would be a dreadful shame if he and his business wa spunished, and as I have said before, when peop[le park elsewhere, it affects the shopowners in front of whose premises they park. So the knocmk on effect is grossly unfair too.

thanks for keeping us all in the picture.

Philoz · Post by **Philoz** » Sat 04 May 2013 5:49 pm

I've got to say,that if the car park is owned by others as scarlets suggest,then you can't really blame them for charging given that previous posts say that it has recently been resurfaced ,and had bays marked out.

Think of it this way.

If your neighbour had 4 cars, but only enough room to park one,how would you feel if he parked the other 3 in your driveway?

Maybe the owner of Mr Pound, should have been a little more proactive(I am sure he is a nice chap),as he must have realised that his neighbours were getting their own customers vehicles blocked in-given that it has been their goodwill that has allowed an unsatisfactory situation to continue.

A little bit of empathy goes a long way.

Marions · Post by **Marions** » Sat 04 May 2013 5:57 pm

the car park is not just for r Pound shop users, but all the shops in the block, and no one said the owner should tarmac and mark bays. We were all quite happy just to be able to park and shop. It is one thing to have a car park in the centre of town, or a shopping centre, but this serve sonly a couple of shops or so and not ones that people would visit regularly. the butcher's shop must be suffering too.
The daft thing is that the Belediye have made sure that one cnanot park at the front of the shop, and of course there are several blocks along there that have parking at the rear (Telism shop is one such cvase) and they don't charge for customers parking. So why should this one. Plus of ocurse if they all follow suit, virtually all the shops on that side will lose customers, whereas the other side of the road does have SOME space on the pavement for parking. Just seems grossly unfair and unequal.

Philoz · Post by **Philoz** » Sat 04 May 2013 6:07 pm

Marions -if you read my post, the point I am making is that 'who owns the car park'?
It really does just boil down to that simple question-according to Scarlets it is owned by the butcher and a restaurant.

Not by Mr pound.

If I am going off incorrect info that I have read on this thread,then I stand corrected(like the pigeon-toed man wearing his first pair of orthopaedic shoes).

It really is irrelevant if others use it too-the key point is :-

'Who owns the bloody thing!!'

Butterflyaway · Post by **Butterflyaway** » Sun 05 May 2013 6:04 am

Maybe the landlord (who has a fantastic location) feels he wants a better return on his investment. As such he wants to charge higher rents. To do so he needs to attract businesses that can afford these higher rents.

These new businesses may not just want to sell cheap items for a few lira each, but want to provide something better.

Perhaps they want to open a nice restaurant, where people will spend decent money, but these customers will want to park nearby and not on wasteland. Maybe other similar businesses may fancy moving nearby as the area will have improved.

A slightly long-winded way of suggesting what may happen.

If you were the landlord, what would you do? Think about those poor pensioners, (who may spend small fortunes on their hair, make up, nails, etc) or their grandchildren's inheritance, as Theo Paphitis says?

There is a similar shop called Pound Island opposite the Green Holiday Village in Alsancak. No charge for parking right outside the front door on tarmac!

Marions · Post by **Marions** » Sun 05 May 2013 7:49 am

well, I would suggest that a new restaurant on that strip is just what we need!!!!!!! Or maybe a boutique!!!!

Sorry, could nogt resist that. But your last sentence hits the nail on the head. People may well go to similar establishments where the parking is easy and free.
Maybe someone could come up with a premises for Mr Pound that would be more suitable for him and his established customers! Then the landlord would have to find new customers for his shop (cos maybe the butcher would move too etc, etc),m or therfe will be a war when the adjacent shops get fed up with cars galore outside their premises who are not customers of theirs. A bit like Super Clean's problem with the adjacent Cacao!

Rambling Rose · Post by **Rambling Rose** » Sun 05 May 2013 8:33 pm

I am sorry but I fail to understand people who come here and demand thing be changed to resemble life in dear old Blighty -infrstructure, houses, drainage, roads, pubs, music, even dogs, etc. etc. etc. regardless of the damage to the environment and culture and lives of people who liked it as it was, then whinge when it costs money.

I visit Mr. Pound rarely because it is difficult to get there , but when I do I stock up on household goods, gardening item , costmetics and doggy treats and toys, and save a lot more than 4TL (not counting the ocst of petrol) oon what I wouldhave spend in shops and supermarkets.

Contd..................

Rambling Rose · Post by **Rambling Rose** » Sun 05 May 2013 8:47 pm

And, as usual, no - one cares a ***************** about the less able. The carpark, particularly when muddy in wet weather and even more the broken concrete of the steep access road were difficult and a bit dangerous for someone with walking difficulties, particularly with the poor lighting They must be a nightmare for wheelchair users and I should think hardly ideal for prams and pushchairs. Im also one of those retirees struggling on a declining income, but if they improved the access and lighting as well, I would gladly pay 4tl even if it meant living on bread and cheese for a week. Better still if the provide an attendant as some of the Supermarkets do. Last week my car was trapped (despite ample parking space) leaving me stuck indefinitely in hot sun with a trolley including perishable and frozen food by some selfish idiot with a large private vehicle. I know the cost of the really helpful attendant who came to my rescue is added to the cost of my groceries but I dont begrudgeit at all.

muffin · Post by **muffin** » Tue 07 May 2013 1:32 pm

Parking charges are always an emotive subject. Personally when living in the UK I would only shop where parking was free on principal and have the same attitude here. If I next visit MR Pound I will be parking on the rough land at the back of the Computer shop - no way am I forking out 3tl

sophie · Post by **sophie** » Tue 07 May 2013 5:19 pm

Watch this space - there is gold in them thar hills (aka the piece of spare land behind Comaks!!!!

Deniz1 · Post by **Deniz1** » Tue 07 May 2013 5:42 pm

There was a bulldozer working on that bit of waste ground on
saturday

sparky71 · Post by **sparky71** » Tue 07 May 2013 6:55 pm

We went in Mr Pound today and told the miserable attendant we were shopping at Mr Pound and he gave us a ticket and said 10 min free,in and out with time to spare

sophie · Post by **sophie** » Wed 08 May 2013 8:15 am

Actually I do feel very sorry for the young man who was taking the money on the second day the charges came into force. Some people were giving him real stick and others were just driving past him (one almost flattened him against the wall). At that time he was having to take registration numbers and it was obviously slowing things up. If its the sme chap, then I'm not surprised he's acting in a miserable manner. I'd have down tools and walked off by now!!!

Scoobydoo · Post by **Scoobydoo** » Wed 08 May 2013 11:47 am

I couldn't agree with you more Sophie.

I went to Mr Pound yesterday and an english couple were shouting at this young man about how ridiculous the charges are and that he was robbing them!!

It's not his fault, he is just doing his job but I bet he wishes he could find something else to earn money!

sparky71 · Post by **sparky71** » Wed 08 May 2013 12:24 pm

Not saying its his fault and we never shouted at him or were rude,he just grunted 10 Min's and that was it

Rambling Rose · Post by **Rambling Rose** » Wed 08 May 2013 3:38 pm

The lack of compassion here shocks me. Some people are physically incapable of negotiating the access two ways , doing their shopping paying and getting back in l0 mins. Particularly if it is also on the top floor and they want several items. Blatant discrimiation

And what if there is a long queue at the checkout.? They are usually pretty efficient but it does happen and will lead to more arguments and abuse.

People forget also that deducting hte parking from the bill means it comes from the overheads and particularly with a shop which presumably relies on a low profit margin and quick turnover, will eventaully increase the price of the goods.

Rambling Rose · Post by **Rambling Rose** » Wed 08 May 2013 3:48 pm

Whoever the owner and whether he is a rapacious landlord or a poor man trying to get something for otherwise unproductive land that others were taking advantage of, he didnt wake up one morning and think "What shall I do for fun this lovely morning? I know, I'll surface a carpark". Someone or something must have put the idea in his head that people wanted the carpark surfaced and would be prepared to pay for it - who?

bubbles · Post by **bubbles** » Thu 09 May 2013 3:33 am

Me and my husband needed to go to teb bank the other day, and as we always use the car park at the back of the building which the gym and restaurant use too we were asked by a worker as we parked in are we shopping at mr pound, we said no and that we were to be 2 mins to use bank as where else to park the car.
He wanted 3tl but my husband laughed at him then spun off angry, we went to try and find a space by the bank but we couldn't so we left it.
Until another day we started to park on the rough land behind the phone shop next to mr pound, think other people have the same idea to parking there lol.
But we all no what will happen next.. All the cars that are parking outside because of this stupid parking fee at mr pound will eventually get problems by the police and we will get tickets, but where else to park the cars? !
If only they can provide more carparks in girne for short distance walking especially for people with needs or quick stops, my answer is... AS IF !!

Rambling Rose · Post by **Rambling Rose** » Thu 09 May 2013 9:14 pm

In the "good old days" that werent so long ago, it was possible to park outside a shop etc. on a verge or adjacent "waste" land and pop in for 5 minutes of so with no problem, often even parking inthe shade so dog owners could call off for a paper, soft drink, packet of fags or sweets etc. on their way to walking the dogs., and passengers could wait in the car.

The increase in the number of people, leading to more shops and cars, and particularly the incredible number of large heavy gas guzzlers (usually with one or at the most two occupants ) taking up more road than normal cars and at least two parking spaces has put a stop to that. Its the sameproblem as in another thread - the TRNC is developing (if you consider it development) faster than the authorities can (maybe can be expected to ) cope and it is being tackled reactively rather than proactively and on a random basis , often by private enterprise.

More carparks would be wonderful - but car parks cost money (particularly when they have to be surfaced to a standard to carry said heavy fwds ) and as this thread proves people arent prepared to pay - you cant have your cake and eat it.

Park and ride is another idea - but again can be difficult for the disadvantaged and not ideal for those who want to pop into a shop for one item. Probably better for town centres anyway not straggling edge of town areas like this.

Personally I am just grateful for the out of town supermarkets and shopping "parades" with parking, but it does mean my (comparatively minor) disability limits my options, and I find the despoilation of the scenery and veiw a heavy price to pay. Also what about people wo dont even have a car!

sophie · Post by **sophie** » Fri 10 May 2013 7:19 am

Lets be honest, if the truth were known and we owned a bit of spare land and we saw masses of people were parking on it, wouldn't we think "hang on a bit, I can make a buck or two here" and start charging. It's only a matter iof time before the owners of the mass of "sand hills" that we call a car park opposite HSBC, goes the same way. As said earlier, i would suggest there are very nearly as many vehicles in the TRNC as there are people in the country and successive cowboy Governments didn't envisage it happening and if they did they just stuck their heads in the sand and hoped the problem would go away. Well, it isn't and it won't and as a result anyone and everyone with a bit of land will start charging. Consequently parking up side roads will just get worse and worse, which is what is happening in the side roads opposite Mr Pound. I don't envy the people living up there one little bit.

Post by **Soner** » Fri 10 May 2013 7:26 am

I can see Double Red Lines appearing in Girne soon.

bubbles · Post by **bubbles** » Sat 11 May 2013 1:56 pm

hahaha soner i like it!

Rambling Rose · Post by **Rambling Rose** » Sat 11 May 2013 3:55 pm

Many a true word spoken in jest, Soner.

I dont normally like "sniping" at the TRNC authorities, but I must admit I feel a certain disquiet at the recent tendency of Girne local authorities to "prettify" it ( presumably for the benefit of tourists and/or meeting European so called "standards" ) without concern for the consequences to residents (whether local or expat) and maybe "killing the golden goose" by changing the "flavour" of the place AND using money that should be spent on more urgent items such as public health.

I am rather afraid this may be the thin end of the wedge for that part of Girne.

kaiserphil · Post by **kaiserphil** » Sat 11 May 2013 4:09 pm

Is that dreadful television screen on a pole still in the square?

woodspeckie · Post by **woodspeckie** » Sat 11 May 2013 5:40 pm

kaiserphil wrote:Is that dreadful television screen on a pole still in the square?

If it is I don't think it is used anymore, there is one now on the main road to Karakum from what I can remember it is just past Lemar it must be a distraction there on the side of the road.

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