alcohol restrictions
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alcohol restrictions
Karaman, its not all wax jackets and green wellies anymore
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Re: alcohol restrictions
The statement "Islam prohibits the consumption of alcohol." according to some Islamic people I have spoken to this prohibition is not strictly true and the exact terminology is open to interpretation, can anyone verify or refute this statement?
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Re: alcohol restrictions
Do you think the ban will harm Turkey's tourist industry?
- jayceebee
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Re: alcohol restrictions
What a bugga!
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Re: alcohol restrictions
Hopefully and then they will come over to the TRNC!!!
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Re: alcohol restrictions
omg ! ı respect relıgıons equally, but ıf they choose not to drınk , smoke, gamble, what ever... then thats upto each ındıvıdual ı thınk.
people should not have to be made to stop ıf they dont want too.
ın turkey there ıs people that lıke to drınk, smoke, gamble, eat bacon, and choose not to take part ın the ramazan fastıng.
but agaın these ıslamıcs people are also tryıng to restrıct ıt ın the uk and control alot of thıngs theır own way too.
lıke they would lıke our queens palace to become a mosque lol...
and ıf she dont change her relıgıon then she must leave.. lıke the rest of us. hmmmm !
people should not have to be made to stop ıf they dont want too.
ın turkey there ıs people that lıke to drınk, smoke, gamble, eat bacon, and choose not to take part ın the ramazan fastıng.
but agaın these ıslamıcs people are also tryıng to restrıct ıt ın the uk and control alot of thıngs theır own way too.
lıke they would lıke our queens palace to become a mosque lol...
and ıf she dont change her relıgıon then she must leave.. lıke the rest of us. hmmmm !
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- kbasat
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Re: alcohol restrictions
How is this new law actually related to religionm particularly Islam?
I lived in the US for 5 years and where I lived, you couldnt drink until you are 21, you couldnt buy any alcohol from shops after 9pm. Keeping any bottles, open and closed in front or back seat of a car was a crime(could only carry int he trunk).
This is a law against selling alcohol in shops after certain hour, nothing prohibits you from consumption. There are similar laws in many christian countries, Russia being one that pops up to my head right now.
Kemal
I lived in the US for 5 years and where I lived, you couldnt drink until you are 21, you couldnt buy any alcohol from shops after 9pm. Keeping any bottles, open and closed in front or back seat of a car was a crime(could only carry int he trunk).
This is a law against selling alcohol in shops after certain hour, nothing prohibits you from consumption. There are similar laws in many christian countries, Russia being one that pops up to my head right now.
Kemal
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Re: alcohol restrictions
Thank you for putting it into perspective kbasat.
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Re: alcohol restrictions
Incredible. If this extends to businesses which serve foreign tourists then this will almost destroy the tourist industry. I would imagine that this doesn't extend to the tourism sector for this reason.
As Andrew said, I hope we don't see this type of law being passed in the TRNC.
As Andrew said, I hope we don't see this type of law being passed in the TRNC.
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Re: alcohol restrictions
Hang on a minute. This is not a total ban, and it appears to be unrelatred to Islam: it is intended to discourage young people from damaging their health by excess alcohol consumption Judging by reports I have seen in the media the UK should be taking steps in that direction.
I smoke and I demand the right to continue to do so, but I approve the restriction of advertising that encourages youngsters to take it up. I just wish smoking hadnt been perceived as so socially acceptable and glamorous when I was young and impressionable before I took it up at all.
I am not sure this is the right way to go about it - it tends to drive it underground or (as suggested in message 5) to more lenient places, but surely the motives cant be criticized..
btw didnt there used to be something called "prohibition" in the USA?
I smoke and I demand the right to continue to do so, but I approve the restriction of advertising that encourages youngsters to take it up. I just wish smoking hadnt been perceived as so socially acceptable and glamorous when I was young and impressionable before I took it up at all.
I am not sure this is the right way to go about it - it tends to drive it underground or (as suggested in message 5) to more lenient places, but surely the motives cant be criticized..
btw didnt there used to be something called "prohibition" in the USA?
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Re: alcohol restrictions
Hi all, it was my son that rang me the other day and told me to google Turkey Bans alcohol being sold from 22.00hrs to 0600hrs,
looks like it could happen, has any one got the fine details of this bill/ change in the law, will it effect all pubs, clubs, and restaurants,??
If so Could be the death of the Turkish tourist trade,
Regards
Sundance.
looks like it could happen, has any one got the fine details of this bill/ change in the law, will it effect all pubs, clubs, and restaurants,??
If so Could be the death of the Turkish tourist trade,
Regards
Sundance.
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Re: alcohol restrictions
Actually after thinking about it for a bit it does actually make sense.
1) If the majority of the population was not really drinking then they would be more productive - Less braincells destroyed and less hangovers.
2) It would also mean less health issues of course, which is the case for both alcohol and tobacco.
Those two points could easily pay for the possible decline in tourism and alcohol/tobacco tax revenue I would imagine.
1) If the majority of the population was not really drinking then they would be more productive - Less braincells destroyed and less hangovers.
2) It would also mean less health issues of course, which is the case for both alcohol and tobacco.
Those two points could easily pay for the possible decline in tourism and alcohol/tobacco tax revenue I would imagine.
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Re: alcohol restrictions
It appears also intended to reduce alcohol related road traffic accidents, which will also save money on Police and medical expenses. #Where it will lose is advertising revenue and tax on alcohol, but other countries have survived the loss of this on tobacco.
What I used to wish when I lived in the UK and drank alcohol but was responsible about drinking and driving, was that they would encourage the production of economic more healthy and interesting soft drimks. and that pubs would all be obliged to serve tea and ocffee for drivers.
What I used to wish when I lived in the UK and drank alcohol but was responsible about drinking and driving, was that they would encourage the production of economic more healthy and interesting soft drimks. and that pubs would all be obliged to serve tea and ocffee for drivers.
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I think as Turkey has become a more powerful and westernised economy,and given the influence of satellite TV and social media,the Government have realised their young people are vulnerable to the lure of alcohol, and are taking pre-emptive steps to ensure that they don't end up like the UK's town centres at weekend thanks to Blairs idea of a 'Cafe Society'.
The result of all day opening in the UK has, not as far as I can see resulted in 'A more responsible approach to drinking' but more like a drunken free for all that leaves UK cities and towns a vomit splashed 'no-go' area for any one over 20 wanting a nice night out.
And consider the cost to the NHS,and emergency services which must be huge.
The programmes seen on UK TV showing the mayhem caused on a weekend in the UK are seen all over the world.
Credit to the Turkish Gov for trying to rein in a potential problem before it happens, in my opinion.
And I post this as a drinker.
The result of all day opening in the UK has, not as far as I can see resulted in 'A more responsible approach to drinking' but more like a drunken free for all that leaves UK cities and towns a vomit splashed 'no-go' area for any one over 20 wanting a nice night out.
And consider the cost to the NHS,and emergency services which must be huge.
The programmes seen on UK TV showing the mayhem caused on a weekend in the UK are seen all over the world.
Credit to the Turkish Gov for trying to rein in a potential problem before it happens, in my opinion.
And I post this as a drinker.
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Re: alcohol restrictions
Interesting article today from a Turkish journalist that experienced the Rakı festival recently in Girne, in the light of the new laws the Turkish government has passed...
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/no-bit ... sCatID=473
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/no-bit ... sCatID=473
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Re: alcohol restrictions
Interesting the contrast between the views expressed in the last two posts. The first suggests that relaxing controls on drinking increases alcohol abuse wbereas the second suggests a society without restrictions has less of a problem! I certainly used to go along with the theory that restricting drinking hours lead to increased drunkeness because people tried to fit in more in a shorter time. Something like this, I believe, happened in Australia. From what appears to be happening in the UK, it seems I and Tony Blair were wrong - well not the first time for either!
So what is the key - is it a national characteristic or climatic? I believe drunkeness is more prevelant in colder climates - Turkey of course has a range of climatic conditions.
Or is it down to advertising . I certainly get the impression that alcohol is less aggressively advvertised inN. Cyprus than the UK and less inclined to target the young, but that may be because I watch little TV. Presumably N. Cyprus , like Turkey . is now vulnerable through the Internet etc. to sophisticated international methods of advertising.
So what is the key - is it a national characteristic or climatic? I believe drunkeness is more prevelant in colder climates - Turkey of course has a range of climatic conditions.
Or is it down to advertising . I certainly get the impression that alcohol is less aggressively advvertised inN. Cyprus than the UK and less inclined to target the young, but that may be because I watch little TV. Presumably N. Cyprus , like Turkey . is now vulnerable through the Internet etc. to sophisticated international methods of advertising.