annoyed

[bubbles]

hı all,

ı would lıke some answers please. ım really mad thıs mornıng due to the fact my son was shouted up at 6.30am thıs mornıng
by the maıntence worker ın the area askıng hım ın turkısh to say to me can ı move the 3 towels off my balcony that ı had left out
all nıght dryıng from showers.

now ı dont see why thıs ıs a problem as ı have been lıvıng here for over a year now and ı rent the house off an estate agent.

he saıd that hı boss dont allow thıs and ı have to move some of my plants also.

ı dont even pay rent to hım and the house dont belong to hım, ıt belongs to a lady ın the uk.
WHO ıs he to say what ı can and can do?
ıı have my contract to say what ı can and cant do and ı have always stuck by thıs.

not lıke thıs worker that stores all hıs old furnıture and equıpments ın an empty apartment.

end of the day the man gets paıd maıntenence by the owners ı thınk.
even though he does nothıng around the place and he too relaxed!

ı have wrote an emaıl now to my estate agent regardıng a few thıng actually even though ı have bıt my tongue for over a year now.

ıs there anybody on here that rents apartment to people and pays maıntenence and gets told what you can and cant do wıth your own home?
advıce please.. thankyou so much

[Marions]

I don't rent out here, but I do know when I was living in Australia there were rules and regulations with the property that the Site Manager, who was also maintenance had to enforce. Sounds like they are trying to bring this over here. Actually it works well as it means that everywhere is kept clean and negates what happens in so many places that blocks of flats look like Chinese laundries.

I honestly think they are tightening up here on rules and regs in the hopes it will improve the place. I am fortunate it doesn'tapply to me as I have private places to dry my washing! I can understand you feel annoyed, but I strongly suspect that your Maintenance Manhas been given his instrucitons to follow and he is only doing his job.

Have a quiet word with your owner if you wish and get it clarified but don't be surprised if she says the man was doing his job.

[corona24]

hmm, true; places have their rules and regulations; and the maintenance person tries to keep things clean and in order- very nice.
When you do your best to maintain your household clean and in order, you definitely do not need anyone else adding something petty to your list of already long chores. I live in an apartment building, which I am not used to and don't like it. I am also not used to leaving my shoes outside the door. I understand the point "don't bring Germs in the house", and its fast and easy to just kick them off before you step inside (now a habit). Soon I had a small shoe collection outside my door which I always meant to organize and line up against the wall, but forgot to do every night.x After the maintenance man telling me something in Turkish about the shoes 2 times, (1 pair was scattered in front of the door) I brought the shoes in and stored in a cabinet. At night if we go out, we return and just kick off the shoes and go in. I forget to line them or bring them in, till I remember he is coming to clean! Too late. He beat me to it and says something and gestures a rack with his hands, I smile and nod yes "ok." Things out here are expensive, so I was trying to avoid buying a shoe rack or such- that's just my story with maintenance (so far).
Him telling you something about your towels being left out, who cares!!!!You forgot, or needed them to dry, what's it to him!? IF it is his job, maybe the owner or he should give you a copy of his job responsibilities. Next time he says something, and its NOT in his job prescription, then you can tell him to "sus", mind his own business, and just do his job.
P.s. I ended up finding a cheap rack but sometimes still forget to organize it neatly in front of the door and he does it when he cleans my floor.

[Marions]

I don't like apartment living, but when I have done so, am happy to obey the rules for the good of all. Actually Italy had a reallygood system.Shoe rack just inside the door so no dirt takenin, and everything neat and tidy. Difficult when youhave a big family, but even though I hate rules (I am a gypsy rebel) I always try to realize that it is for the good of all. Of occurs,e it would help if someone gave a renter an agreement as to what they have to do. When I wa sin Oz,l we knew exactly what was expected of us. |It DOES help,and I do feel sorry for the maintenance men who are the ones who get the big stick waved at them if tenants do not toe the owners party line.

[bubbles]

ı understand wıth the comments that ı have receıved from you marıon and corona.
but ı just hadanother read of the contract agaın to be ınterested and ıt does not state no rules about hangıng washıng out or even puttıng your towels out to dry.
ı mean,, what do we do ın the summer as we have a communal pool and everybody hangs theır towels over th balcony to dry, even at the hotels etc.

our maıntenence man does hardly nothıng around the apartments he very relaxed.
and ı feel sorry for those that pay Money for the cleanıng etc of the place that are not even here full tıme as they only come out for holıdays.

ı cant really have my say as ı dont pay the maıntenece. the owner of the apartment does that boughtthıs place.

so ıf you buy a place out here,, you stıll got to ask for permıssıon about hangıng your clothes out or certaın thıngs regardıng your own home?

[Marions]

Yu relaly need to check with the owner. If there is nothing in your contract then ask the landlady what you should or should not be doing.

As to rules if you buy, it kinda depends form whom. I guess if you buy a house in a complex (or a flat) then there culd well be rules you must keep. As I say other coutnries do, so maybe they are catching up. As to dryng towels, when I lived in Australia which is hot too, we could not hang out towels and so they were dried indoors in the bathroom. In some complexes there were communal washing lines and washing machines, and everything had to be hung out there. But as I say, different places and different rules. Maybe all the others are breaking the rules. Some hotels will never allow towels to hang over balconies, so in each case one has to find out form the boss as to what the rules are. As there is nothing in your contact you MUST speak to the owner. After all if there is anything amiss she is the one who gets the blame and maybe even paya fine. I do't know.

The other problem is that when everyone does something it doesn't make it right. MKaybe they are going agains the rules too, especially if they have not bene told what therules are.

So, please check with the owner of the property. Best way to go to get the facts. Good luck.

[kiplet]

bubbles.

I feel sure you understand as a renter you should adhere to a rental contract which if done officially should include site rules. I feel sure you are.

If you as a renter have not been asked to agree to any such site rules then how are you suppose to know of any site rules ?

As far as the maintenance worker confronting you in this manner this suggests to me the management company is not acting in a professional way.

If site rules do exist and any one breaking site rules, a sensible way would be the offender to be informed by letter.

Confronting people by site workers is unfair on that worker and unfair to the owner /renter

(unless it is written in the site rules)

Unfortunately many maintenance companies in North Cyprus are not legally contracted to manage sites, resulting in these illegal management companies setting rules and demanding management fees they are not legally in a position to act upon

However some owners/renters make a grave mistake and never ever query this.

[bubbles]

thankyou marıon
ı wıll certaınly look ınto ıt. ı have always respected the rules and my contract but some thıngs are lıttle bıt stupıd and for hım to shout my 10 year old son early mornıng about ıt made me feel even more annoyed.

ı wıll no longer hand my towels over the balcony to keep peace but ıf they have anythıng to say about my plants etc on the balcony
then there wıll be thunder lol

ım waıtıng for a response of my emaıl that ı sent early today to the estate agents as ı cant get there to speak to them face to face regardıng the ıssue as my husband gets home just as they close.

thankyou

[bigOz]

In Cyprus there are no regulations or laws that prevent people from hanging their washing in their balcony or placing their flower pots on the same (providing they are not hanging off the edges of balcony walls on apartments not on ground level). There can be no such restrictions in a contract when you buy a house and hence there cannot be one in the rental agreement that can superseed the law of the land.

Besides the general law and rules, Only Belediye can lay down special regulations related to properties as such, and they only do it if there is a very good reason - not for hanging your laundry in your balcony!

The guy is just being nasty just like many of the megalomaniac "apartment managers" AKA "care takers" who get their kicks out of having a go at other people! Especially if they think you are weak and they can get away with it,

My advice is, do not allow yourself to be bullied and tell him straight that you will call the police next time he gives you grief over such matters! Actually, do call the police and they will attent the premises immediately plus give him some sensible advice! If you tell me which area you live in, I can pass on the number for the local "Adli Şübe" department of the police that you can call.

[the butlers wife]

Hi Bubbles,

I am sorry to hear you are upset about the maintainance guy telling you off for hanging your towels over your balcony.
On our site it is a rule that you do not hang anything over your balconies at the front of your property. All the properties form 3 circles around 3 large pools and if everyone put their washing over the balcony it really would look awful. Owners have been asked to use the rear of their properties to dry laundry. I suspect the maintainance man has been asked by the developers to point this out to you and he is only the messenger. The fact nothing is in your contract means only that the owner has forgotten to tell you about this. So calm down and think, is it really so hard to dry your washing somewhere else.

The butlers wife

[bubbles]

All of our apartments are empty and there is only myself living there and the maintenance man down from us in their apartment. All the others are empty and only a couple are bought from people that just come out for holidays.
I have been renting this apartment for over a year now with no problems before for orders.
Today I did get harassed and shouted at by his wife for 1 towel to dry for my baby!

I didn't take it in as I ignored and I didn't say anything to her but really wished I had!
I didnt call the police as I no I be wasting their time and I don't want problem.

Why should people get treated like this for trying to live happy?
Now I am uncomfortable with what I can and can't do.
So I just wait for response of my email sent to the estate agents so they can contact the owner to see what is right and wrong for me to understand.

[bubbles]

I got my response regardıng all thıs ... says that there ıs no problem for how ı am lıvıng and to carry on.
the ladylady ıs hopefully gettıng ın touch wıth the buılder whıch ı assume ıs the maıntenence boss.

ı thınk thıs care taker has don alot of thıngs wrong as all the people lıvıng here and up from us dont lıke hım. and has been askıng to borrow Money etc from tenants and to borrow theır cars etc.
strange to me.

ı have alot to talk to hıs boss about as my husband was stopped yesterday by the caretaker whıch ıs stıll harrassıng us and sayıng that he ıs comıng today sometıme to speak to us and wıth a letter.
now why the letter now?
my landlady has had thıs house many years and has paıd everythıng so how can thıs just take place now to hıs orders?

so ım lookıng forward toı a vısıt today

[corona24]

oooooh very strange man indeed!!!! asking to borrow money or cars? like hell to the NO! not to be in your business, but I wonder how meeting goes. set him straight! and Good luck!!

[bubbles]

Meetings?? Never seen one in a year or at all just like the sweeping up lol
I got told by him today not to use 2 clothes horses now!
There are no people, let alone tourists.
Nobody comes!
Now the house is all paid up to the builder by my landlady is how can he bully
Just us with orders, he didn't tell others that live up the road as they still peg washing out.
His balcony rails has 5 big flower baskets hanging all around his.
And I'm not even allowed 1 towel

[kiplet]

Bubbles.
Totally ignore the guy or any one else for that matter that interferes with your every day living.
As long as you adhere to your rental contract rules no one can order you to do otherwise.
The courts would back you up on that I feel sure if there was any call to do so.
Unless I am proven wrong I presume the maintenance company and staff probably have no legal contract to be running the site.
But until a majority of owners on all sites query legal contracts, then the culture of so called maintenance companies will continue their illegal presence on sites.

[kaiserphil]

Bubbles, BigOz is right. Cypriots are a lovely lot of people, interspersed by the occasional arrogant bully. I have met a few of those.

[JoandJelly]

Sounds to me like he is just trying to wind you up. Ignore him and enjoy your life with your lovely new family

[bubbles]

Thankyou jo and thankyou everybody for all your comments.
I feel better now I no we not doing nothing wrong.
Just want to live happy.
It doesn't matter where the guy is from as people are people but he is not Cypriot to one messàge.
He from Adana but I don't care really as I like all nationalitys but certainly not this bully!