Making a Will in TRNC
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Making a Will in TRNC
Could any of you kind people let me know if it is possible to download a blank copy of a will, suitable for the TRNC. I would appreciate any help. Many Thanks
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There used to be one on the HBPG site
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Whatever the style or content of your will it needs to be signed and witnessed at the Registrars Office (by the Land Registry Office). The registrar will then register it and give a number.
I first went to the Noter with my draft will and he told me to go and make an appt. with the registrar. Found the Registrar very helpful she went through it with me to confirm everything before I signed and was witnessed.
I may have been misinformed but was told this was the only to legitimise a will in the TRNC.
You do not need an advocate or Noter, though am sure some would gladly draft a will for suitable renumeration.
Hope this will be helpful. For me it was a relatively painless excerise.
I first went to the Noter with my draft will and he told me to go and make an appt. with the registrar. Found the Registrar very helpful she went through it with me to confirm everything before I signed and was witnessed.
I may have been misinformed but was told this was the only to legitimise a will in the TRNC.
You do not need an advocate or Noter, though am sure some would gladly draft a will for suitable renumeration.
Hope this will be helpful. For me it was a relatively painless excerise.
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Thank you very much the information it is very helpfull, will take your advice and go and see the notary on Monday, then off to the registry office for the stamp. Many thanks. Will post again to let you how I got on.
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Thank you very much the information it is very helpfull, will take your advice and go and see the notary on Monday, then off to the registry office for the stamp. Many thanks. Will post again to let you how I got on.
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Thank you very much the information it is very helpfull, will take your advice and go and see the notary on Monday, then off to the registry office for the stamp. Many thanks. Will post again to let you how I got on.
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Yes i think i remember seeing a download of a will on the old Cyprus 44 i think it was done by Hans Doleman.
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yes i have got a copy of the blank will form which i kindly got from Hans Doleman from C44 i have checked out hans profile on here and hes not on very much so i assume he will not mind if i let people have a copy,
Should you want a copy please email andrew_clarkson@hotmail.com with the heading will and can send you it
Should you want a copy please email andrew_clarkson@hotmail.com with the heading will and can send you it
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Did you have to pay to register the will? if so how much
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We used our advocate to draw up our will ....... Yes I know it is possible to do it yourself and we even have the form sent to us by Hans Dooleman. However after some thought and because we are in the UK we decided to get our advocate to advise and draw up. Maybe we are to cautious but we just thought it not worth the risk of something not being completed properly if we went the DIY route. The cost of the will v cost of property as our investment seemed to sway us.
Think the DIY costs would be no more than £30. Using an advocate was £200. Was it worth the extra....... We will have to wait and see. Important thing is to do it!!
Think the DIY costs would be no more than £30. Using an advocate was £200. Was it worth the extra....... We will have to wait and see. Important thing is to do it!!
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Just to clarify 'Poshin Devon' - are you referring to your TRNC 'advocate' ? - and did you get it 'notarised' (certified) in the TRNC? otherwise your will is not recognised in TRNC...
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The DIY will is perfect if you have one benificiary or leaving equal shares to multiple benificiaries. There is no option for leaving individual items to seperate people, for that you need professional advice. However, remember all that wonderful advice many received when purchasing property. Do not pay the advocates a single kurus if you can help it.
The main thing to remember is you MUST have a correctly registered will in the TRNC if you have any assets here, if not your benificiaries will probably get nothing.
The main thing to remember is you MUST have a correctly registered will in the TRNC if you have any assets here, if not your benificiaries will probably get nothing.
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Keithcaley.....
We did use our TRNC advocate - the same one we used when originally purchasing the property and yes in our opinion without opening up a wider discussion we thought she did an excellent job. We met up and discussed when we were out in March and when we returned in May ran thro everything, confirmed all was correct, went to the court in Girne, watched while everything was checked again and witnessed the sealing of the documents using candle wax! We were then given the appropriate reference numbers and information on how our beneficaries could retrieve them.
Agree that DIY is much cheaper and probably relatively straightforward, but being cautious we wanted to remove any risk and heartache in the future - whilst I do like a bargain just felt that on this occasion the value of the property v the cost of the will was acceptable. Its all about personal choice but as I said before the most important thing is to do it.
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We did use our TRNC advocate - the same one we used when originally purchasing the property and yes in our opinion without opening up a wider discussion we thought she did an excellent job. We met up and discussed when we were out in March and when we returned in May ran thro everything, confirmed all was correct, went to the court in Girne, watched while everything was checked again and witnessed the sealing of the documents using candle wax! We were then given the appropriate reference numbers and information on how our beneficaries could retrieve them.
Agree that DIY is much cheaper and probably relatively straightforward, but being cautious we wanted to remove any risk and heartache in the future - whilst I do like a bargain just felt that on this occasion the value of the property v the cost of the will was acceptable. Its all about personal choice but as I said before the most important thing is to do it.
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I believe if it is a back to back will, eg both partners leaving everything to the other, a will form is adequate, as long as it is registered. We did this, as until there is only one of us left there is no necessity for things to be left to others!! We watched the envelopes being sealed and were given a copy of the stamped wills to keep at home. The difference in price was considerable!!!! £250 against a few lira and a bit of time - we took our witnesses with us, though I believe this is not necessary if they sign and put passport numbers etc on as well.
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mamachina,
What happens if you both die at same time?
Our diy will leaves all to each other but in the event of both dying there MUST be a legacy made otherwise the government gets the lot.
In fact the diy here is no different to UK. You can get a pro forma from WH Smith based on similar principle.
There is no more risk with DIY as there is with any advocate who charges a fortune, most in Girne could not fight their way out of a paper bag and just love taking foreigners cash. Cynic Moi!!!?????
What happens if you both die at same time?
Our diy will leaves all to each other but in the event of both dying there MUST be a legacy made otherwise the government gets the lot.
In fact the diy here is no different to UK. You can get a pro forma from WH Smith based on similar principle.
There is no more risk with DIY as there is with any advocate who charges a fortune, most in Girne could not fight their way out of a paper bag and just love taking foreigners cash. Cynic Moi!!!?????
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To use or not to use an advocate- its personal choice really based on how good a job they will do, the cost, your own time and effort plus whether you think there is any risk in things going wrong. Whilst there is nothing wrong with DIY and cost is substantially cheaper it may not work if the will is a little more complicated.
There have been many discussions on forums about the service offered by an advocate in the TRNC and what value they add. For us we believe that our advocate did a good job when we purchased our property and having taken advice and being averse to risk decided the relatively low cost for sorting out our will was worth it given the value of the property. Cannot agree that all advocates are there to rip off foreigners.
To an outsider many of those who provide "professional services" are often seen as getting a lot of money for doing not a lot.....And I agree that some charges can seem excessive. I am not a plumber and have no idea about plumbing - here in the UK even if you can get hold of a plumber charges often seem very high-so it is bite the bullet time and pay up.
I am sure there are many other things that I would consider expensive but many would find the charges acceptable. It's all relative really.
There have been many discussions on forums about the service offered by an advocate in the TRNC and what value they add. For us we believe that our advocate did a good job when we purchased our property and having taken advice and being averse to risk decided the relatively low cost for sorting out our will was worth it given the value of the property. Cannot agree that all advocates are there to rip off foreigners.
To an outsider many of those who provide "professional services" are often seen as getting a lot of money for doing not a lot.....And I agree that some charges can seem excessive. I am not a plumber and have no idea about plumbing - here in the UK even if you can get hold of a plumber charges often seem very high-so it is bite the bullet time and pay up.
I am sure there are many other things that I would consider expensive but many would find the charges acceptable. It's all relative really.
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Cyprusishome - well, of course we hope that wouldnt happen - but I gather it becomes null and void if either one dies within 20 days (I think!) but as neither of us will be here to worry about it, and there wont be much anyway I doubt the kids will be that bothered!! We have wills in the UK with a trustee, so he would have to sort those out!! w Actually e have named the children as inheritors if we do die within 20 days and it would be shared between them, I gather. Things like odd bits of jewelry have already been privately earmarked and I imagine would quietly disappear once a member of the family arrived - the rest would have to take its course.
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Just let me see if i have this right,i am now in possesion of the diy will in English, is it ok to fill this in & get it certified here
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I have a copy of it too, that is a good point, will they accept one in English ?
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yes the will is acceptable in English.
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Thank you
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Having just gone through the business of registering a will in the courts after the death of my wife, I can assure everyone that a will in English is not acceptable - it has to be translated into Turkish. Would you expect a will written in Turkish to be acceptable to an English court - of course not.
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We used a solicitor to make out our wills to make sure we got it right, given there are children, grand-children and great-grandchildren. For the cost of GBP200, it seemed little enough to pay to make sure we got it right.
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MoBry....Same for us - I like a bargain and DIY method seems very reasonably priced but we just thought that for £200 it was worth using our advocate to sort it for us. A small charge to pay when you consider the property cost and ours is only a small place.
Appreciate that its personal choice and whatever way people decide to do it the important thing is that it is done.
Appreciate that its personal choice and whatever way people decide to do it the important thing is that it is done.
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Just a question for those who used a local "solicitor" to prepare their will.
Did the lawyer propose appointing himself as executor/trustee, suggesting there will be considerable time and cost benefits when the will matures?
Just a thought!
Did the lawyer propose appointing himself as executor/trustee, suggesting there will be considerable time and cost benefits when the will matures?
Just a thought!